new and having problems

[timbest]

Last week I got my new 510 from cignot with starter 25 mg tobacco flavors.
I gave it a try and got two good puffs and got lightheaded, stomach cramps came next along with pains around my kidneys.
So I gave it a break and read some more on this site and discovered that there was primer on the new atomizers. So I cleaned the atomizer and tried again with the same results. So I thought it might be the PG or too high nicotine. Made an order with vapor bomb and selected PG and VG assortment in 12 and 18 mg nic levels.
Of these the 12 mg VG treats me the best, but still gives me some pains in my back and kidneys and leaves me very lethargic.
I am now going to try some Eco-pure British e-juice and hope it may treat me better. Does anyone know anything I may be doing wrong or has had bad expierience with some juice but felt fine on others?

Thanks

 

[Happy Domino38]

Some people DO have allergic reactions to PG.

Doesn't seem that you're doing anything WRONG, (with the exception of vaping the primer..but we've all done THAT one at least once..), and your nic levels aren't considered high, by any means..what did you used to smoke?

 

[VRubin]

That is really odd.. my husband had a pretty nasty allergic reaction to PG, ie asthma attack, horrible chest pains.. couldn't breathe well.. but I'm not so sure about the kidney pains. Hope you get it sorted out

 

[Hoosier]

What do you smoke and how many per day?

 

[5cardstud]

PG acts like a laxitive on me and I get cramps until I visit the john. My doctor used to prescribe it to me for a laxitive.

 

[andrea0121]

PG acts like a laxitive on me and I get cramps until I visit the john. My doctor used to prescribe it to me for a laxitive.

True that. OP, you might be having bowel constrictions, thinking it's your kidneys. When I was diagnosed with IBS (yuck) I had horrible back pains, thinking I had cancer or something neurotic like that, lol. It could be that it's moving your system down there in ways that you're not used to. I strickly vape VG because I don't need any added err.. stomach issues.

 

[timbest]

Thanks all
I smoke a little under a pack of American Spirit blue per day

 

[rusty shackleford]

vg over here...my base juice for mixing is 50/50 pg and vg but I add more vg and cherry vodka to bring down the mg per ml to 24 mg...

 

[PaulCincy]

Welcome, and one thing that I do is when I know that I am going to vape a lot,,,,like now when I am on the computer,,,,I vape real low nic levels,,,,6mg...In the morning with my coffee, I vape 12-16 mg....I was a 1 and 1/2 a pack analog user before I started vaping....No analogs since the first day I received my Ego....Feb 11....It is all working for me,,,,so far...Hope it works out for you....Oh, I also use only VG....Good Luck and Enjoy....

 

[chad2020]

I have had absolutely NO adverse reactions, which I'm very pleased. I just can not find anything wrong with this stuff. I rarely am so pleased and typically I have the luck of something not working right or not what I expected. I'M HAPPY. Will be happier when I start making my own juice.

 

[jj2]

Using VG is a good move but want to mention some flavors create problems.
I can't do menthol chrystals.
Another option is PEG (see library).
I hope you see your way through this and can use the e-cig, but don't take any chances if pain presist.

 

[Jaddell]

Welcome, and one thing that I do is when I know that I am going to vape a lot,,,,like now when I am on the computer,,,,I vape real low nic levels,,,,6mg...In the morning with my coffee, I vape 12-16 mg....I was a 1 and 1/2 a pack analog user before I started vaping....No analogs since the first day I received my Ego....Feb 11....It is all working for me,,,,so far...Hope it works out for you....Oh, I also use only VG....Good Luck and Enjoy....

This is great info, will follow your info.

 

[Rosa]

I doubt if this pain is kidney pain (although if you have had as many kindey infections as me you'd be able to feel the difference) - your kidneys are used to filter your blood, so wouldn't it have to go into your blood and circulate all through your body before ending up in your kidneys (last stop before the exit, you might say)? Perhaps it is your GI as some are suggesting?

THE only caveat is that PG and VG both tend to dry you out so you'll want to drink a lot more water - that'll effect your kidney function, but not within just a couple of puffs.

 

[Happy Domino38]

I doubt if this pain is kidney pain (although if you have had as many kindey infections as me you'd be able to feel the difference) - your kidneys are used to filter your blood, so wouldn't it have to go into your blood and circulate all through your body before ending up in your kidneys (last stop before the exit, you might say)? Perhaps it is your GI as some are suggesting?

THE only caveat is that PG and VG both tend to dry you out so you'll want to drink a lot more water - that'll effect your kidney function, but not within just a couple of puffs.

Rosa is all that and a big bag of chips...make sure you drink A LOT when you first start vaping..I found that I was really 'dry', but after a while, it seemed to pass...good luck!!

 

[forthwith]

Are you aware of your cart/juice supplier's origin? I had problems with bad imported juice, but johnson creek does me nice, so does real dekang (as opposed to another company making dekang flavors)

 

[CaptJay]

It could be a sensitivity but its also possible the nic level is too high for you.
I dont know if youre not smoking at all now or if you still are but IF you are then you're getting more nic than you think. If you're not then its possible the nic level of 25 is way too much (even 12 if it gives you issues could be too high). The only way to check is to use something at zero and eliminate the carrier liquid first. You dont want to make yourself ill.
Its a good idea to increase your liquid intake n your daily life even if you DON'T vape, most people don't drink nearly enough; but with vaping you really MUST have more lqiuids. So I'd first try drinking a bunch more; your whole body will love you even if its not the reason you have pains in that area (and btw, I once had a huge fever from illness and had those pains in my kidneys due to dehydration, and my tongue went white too lol). Once you're hydrated you can start to work out what, if anything, is causing your odd reactions and go on from there.
WIth any luck its just dehydration upsetting your system, but if its PG sensitivity thats a pretty easy one to get around too as lots of vendor sell all VG juices.
Good luck!

 

[akcrabslayer]

Im not a doctor but i don't think your problems are related to vaping pg or vg or analogs

 

[Whistle_Pig]

It could be a sensitivity but its also possible the nic level is too high for you.

I'm doubtful it's a nicotine issue. My regular smoke was American Spirit Ultra Lights. The "Blue" pack smokes are a lot stronger -- they're a "regular" strength smoke. I can vape 24mg juice without a problem. He said it's only a couple of puffs anyway.

 

[timbest]

Thanks all, I do believe that some of my problems might be psychosymatic. After those first high nic with primer puffs messed me up a bit I may be over thinking now.
I am not having kidney pains, just muscle pains in the kidney area. I also recall feeling like crap after wearing the patch in past quitting attempts, arm that I was wearing it on always had some pain
I did order up some VG eco-pure unflavored, some VG and a few flavors and hopefully will be able to mix up a batch that will treat me good.
Thanks again for the responses

 

[Biomom]

Thanks all, I do believe that some of my problems might be psychosymatic. After those first high nic with primer puffs messed me up a bit I may be over thinking now.
I am not having kidney pains, just muscle pains in the kidney area. I also recall feeling like crap after wearing the patch in past quitting attempts, arm that I was wearing it on always had some pain
I did order up some VG eco-pure unflavored, some VG and a few flavors and hopefully will be able to mix up a batch that will treat me good.
Thanks again for the responses

Glad you are adjusting, although I would still try lower doses; I google'd how much nicotene various cigarettes contain and it was always much lower. Vaping takes about twice as long to fully hit your blood stream (30 min, according to the FDA study). According to vapersclub, your body does have some chemical adjusting to do and drinking extra water will always help.

Best wishes!