New Anti-Vaping Laws at my Apartment Complex

[BlueCanary]

It sounds to me like they are talking about those "vaporizor" devices sold at certain shops which heat up and vaporize dried materials. Those are electronic, and look a little like ecigs, but they do put off smoke instead of true vapor. I had a guy try to sell me a 200.00 version recently because "then you can vaporize dried tobacco, it's healthier than cigarettes!" Those are the "in" thing right now for people who want to do…stuff…without bothering the neighbors.

If it were me, and if I'd lived there a while without feeling like the apartment complex was managed by irrational Nazis…I'd just ask. Chances are pretty good that they aren't talking about your kind of vaping. Even if you "draw attention" to yourself by asking, you're going to either draw attention to yourself anyway by vaping on your lanai…or you're going to vape inside only and not get the full enjoyment out of your property, possibly unnecessarily. Wouldn't you rather just know for sure?

 

[Jdurand]

My God, what happened to America? My advice would just get you in trouble. I think my head is going to explode! I hope others here are right, and they are talking about the "other" vaporizers. If not, and they do mean you (us) well, it's a sad day indeed.

 

[The Ocelot]

My God, what happened to America? My advice would just get you in trouble. I think my head is going to explode!

Lol! You live in New York. The Central Park smoking ban passed years ago. I get to post this clip again, I just love watching it:



Sorry for the brief derail.

 

[catalinaflyer]

FWIW, I have been known to vape on airplanes, quite frequently I might add where they are specifically included in the not allowed what so ever category. I use a VTR with a carto and tank, turn it down to 7 to 8 watts and just hold it in my hand kind of concealed. When I vape I just hold the vapor in a little longer and exhale down in front of me. Not one single time has anyone said anything negative and the one time I did get caught by a flight attendant she asked what flavor and nic level I was using.

In fact I'm headed to the airport shortly for a 13 hour flight and have my "stealth" kit in my laptop bag ready to go.

Get some higher nic juice, higher PG, smallish mod/atomizer and vape away.

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[TonyD64]

It really boils down to weather they will enforce a sudden eviction, or try to keep your security deposit. Study the local laws on leases/rental agreements. Personally I'd say {Moderated} um and roll the dice.

 

[LMS62]

Before you do anything, you may want to speak with the management to clarify the new rule.

 

[Iffy]

Now granted, I could sit inside, close the curtain and no one would ever know.

... but in that case I might just draw undue attention to myself and inadvertently assist the association in producing a new amendment that more effectively bans e-cigs in the complex.

Do ya realize how pathetic and defeatist what you posted sounds like?

Which would ya prefer: doing da first option, never knowing and being a 'prisoner' or pullin' up your panties and finding out, with a possible chance to educate? Da worst case in either scenario is you'll have to do da former. But by doing da latter and being OK'd, priceless!

I apologize if I bruised any egos (non-PV related) here. BUT day-um, guess I'm old enough to remember when sex was dirty and da air was clean!

So much for our 'brave new world'... truly tragic...

Lol! You live in New York. The Central Park smoking ban passed years ago. I get to post this clip again, I just love watching it...

Now dat's priceless... I rest my case!

 

[crxess]

You live in Hell
MOVE

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I'm with the others in interpreting it to mean the use of other stuff. Read it too many times and will look like for a week. When does the new rulz start?

 

[Scootaloo]

Screw the rules how do they know what you do behind closed doors anway?

In the end it’s up to you, but before my sister was married and she lived in different places round town with friends. All of the houses had a no-smoking rule (this was a bit before vaping) and she smoked in all of them regardless.

As for the Lanai it’s simple, just stealth vape or don’t vape at all and wait till you get inside.

 

[Javamon]

As some others have said:

- I don't think that law is for the vaping we discuss in this forum, but, something else.
- Don't ask, don't tell.
- Stay inside.

With that, it should be fine.
If, somehow, someway you do get challenged with the vaping you do indoors, that will be your confirmation to move.

[Off to go look up the word lanai. We didn't have those in Queens, NY growing up. We Did have stoops.]

 

[Iffy]

Screw the rules how do they know what you do behind closed doors anway?

As for the Lanai it’s simple, just stealth vape or don’t vape at all and wait till you get inside.

 

[James Wilson]

It sounds to me like they are talking about those "vaporizor" devices sold at certain shops which heat up and vaporize dried materials. Those are electronic, and look a little like ecigs, but they do put off smoke instead of true vapor. I had a guy try to sell me a 200.00 version recently because "then you can vaporize dried tobacco, it's healthier than cigarettes!" Those are the "in" thing right now for people who want to do…stuff…without bothering the neighbors.

If it were me, and if I'd lived there a while without feeling like the apartment complex was managed by irrational Nazis…I'd just ask. Chances are pretty good that they aren't talking about your kind of vaping. Even if you "draw attention" to yourself by asking, you're going to either draw attention to yourself anyway by vaping on your lanai…or you're going to vape inside only and not get the full enjoyment out of your property, possibly unnecessarily. Wouldn't you rather just know for sure?

I know what kind your talking about. Ones that are said to vaporize the stuff but instead it just combust and you get most. Most Pen Styles that claim to be able to vaporize is it doesn't actually vaporize it lol. I think there may be only a couple pen styles that might actually be able to do it out there. Not going to mention what they are here. lol.


On this subject at hand. I wouldn't be obeying this new rule. Hell even if I was still a smoker I would have still smoked in there. A person should be allowed to smoke or vape in their home if they want to. Yes it is an apartment and you are renting it. But many people rent houses as well. You can imagine how many people would laugh at the landlord if he tried to impose such a rule. I think they are going to find if very hard to get new tenets with rules like that. Now if the rule was for the hallways of the building, ok that I can respect and obey. An apartment complex I used to live in had that one. Not everyone obeyed it but I did.

 

[LMS62]

I know what kind your talking about. Ones that are said to vaporize the stuff but instead it just combust and you get most. Most Pen Styles that claim to be able to vaporize is it doesn't actually vaporize it lol. I think there may be only a couple pen styles that might actually be able to do it out there. Not going to mention what they are here. lol.


On this subject at hand. I wouldn't be obeying this new rule. Hell even if I was still a smoker I would have still smoked in there. A person should be allowed to smoke or vape in their home if they want to. Yes it is an apartment and you are renting it. But many people rent houses as well. You can imagine how many people would laugh at the landlord if he tried to impose such a rule. I think they are going to find if very hard to get new tenets with rules like that. Now if the rule was for the hallways of the building, ok that I can respect and obey. An apartment complex I used to live in had that one. Not everyone obeyed it but I did.

I don't necessarily disagree, but here's the issue. When renting out an apartment or a house, if you have tenants that have smoked in it for any length of time, once they do move out, good luck renting it out to non-smokers, as the odor is very difficult to get out.

Since only 18% of Americans smoke, chances are good that when the time comes to rent out again, the new prospective tenants will be non-smokers.

I have seen this in the past with people who used to smoke in their vehicles, trying to then sell it as used to a non-smoker. From a personal aspect, I also believe people who rent should be allowed to smoke in their "home", but from a strictly business aspect.....it's not that simple.

 

[BlueCanary]

I know what kind your talking about. Ones that are said to vaporize the stuff but instead it just combust and you get most. Most Pen Styles that claim to be able to vaporize is it doesn't actually vaporize it lol. I think there may be only a couple pen styles that might actually be able to do it out there. Not going to mention what they are here. lol.


On this subject at hand. I wouldn't be obeying this new rule. Hell even if I was still a smoker I would have still smoked in there. A person should be allowed to smoke or vape in their home if they want to. Yes it is an apartment and you are renting it. But many people rent houses as well. You can imagine how many people would laugh at the landlord if he tried to impose such a rule. I think they are going to find if very hard to get new tenets with rules like that. Now if the rule was for the hallways of the building, ok that I can respect and obey. An apartment complex I used to live in had that one. Not everyone obeyed it but I did.

Just about every rental I ever lived in was non-smoking, even houses. It's either that, or you replace the carpet/paint the walls with every new tenant, which just isn't cost-effective. I was an outside only smoker anyway for most of my smoking life, so it wasn't a big deal. And yeah, sometimes I broke the rules if it was super cold outside, but otherwise not. I have a rental property now, and no, my tenants are not allowed to smoke inside. They can go outside, onto the nice porch, just like I did when it was the house that I lived in. I'm sure they break the rules sometimes…which is fine, just as long as it's not 24/7 making the place reek or burning giant holes in the carpet.

I am all for doing whatever you want to do within your own home, and I know that it sucks to be a smoker who wants to smoke inside who can't because of the rental agreement…because I lived that reality for most of my life as a smoker, even after I purchased my own home (because by then, I was used to doing it outside and didn't want to stink the inside up with it). But landlords are landlords because they need to make money, not friends unfortunately. I do think apartment complexes that don't allow smoking in outside spaces are idiotic, and would never live in one or agree to those lease terms ever. And banning vaping is pretty dumb, because it in no way damages the property.

That is why I said the OP should just ask. I can't imagine that they're including vaping in the sense that we mean it. It doesn't hurt the apartment. No point in suffering needlessly, or wondering and worrying, just get clarification and move on from there.

 

[cocacola31173]

And that is why I will never rent a house or live in an apartment! I want to know I can do what I want when i want if I am paying the bills.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Here is the verbatim amendment to the rules and regulation for the apartment complex where I live: "Smoking of any substance (including the use of devices that stimulate the act of smoking if the device discharges smoke, such as certain electronic cigarettes) is prohibited throughout the project, including the apartments and lanais."

My question for you, dear forum members: Does a typical e-cigarette, like the ego-C which I am currently using, "discharge smoke"? It has always been my understanding that the vapor produced by most e-cigs is not the same as smoke. If this is correct, can anyone here point me to some form of evidence that I could leverage in the event that I am fined for vaping in my apartment once the new amendment goes into effect?

Thank you all!

if you have retyped the notice exactly.... lets look at what was said

smoking requires heat that causes combustion of material to be inhaled.... vaping does not cause combustion of the fluid
Vaping does not "stimulate" smoking
Vaping does not discharge smoke
so if one is to follow the words as written... vaping is allowed... because it wasnt included in the notice
Im betting the new rules apply to those other " electronic devices" used for dry herb consumption

 

[The Ocelot]

...Hell even if I was still a smoker I would have still smoked in there. A person should be allowed to smoke or vape in their home if they want to.

And that is why I will never rent a house or live in an apartment! I want to know I can do what I want when i want if I am paying the bills.

Don't forget San Raphael, CA. The median price of a condo is $450,000.00, but you can't smoke in one.

San Rafael, Calif. passes own-home smoking ban - Overlawyered

 

[caramel]

Don't forget San Raphael, CA. The median price of a condo is $450,000.00, but you can't smoke in one.

San Rafael, Calif. passes own-home smoking ban - Overlawyered

"The distinguishing feature is the shared wall."

Bwahahaha. What's next? Shared street? Shared sewage system? Shared hydro pole? How about shared power plant?

 

[K_Tech]

"The distinguishing feature is the shared wall."

Bwahahaha. What's next? Shared street? Shared sewage system? Shared hydro pole? How about shared power plant?

Don't say that too loudly, they might hear you and think it's a good idea.