New at vaping - want to love my Vivi Nova but hits WAY too harsh.. Help?
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does that mean it's burning hotter than it should and potentially burning the juice?
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1) at 1.8, that's a low resistance. I'm not too familiar with ego's or the like. The device may be putting out a high voltage making it taste off.
2) JC is a strong juice. At least, a 24mg nic strength of Tennessee cured is. It burned my throat as well. That's why I diluted it with a few drops of distilled water. My nova still works like a charm and the throat hit is a little bit less harsh.
3) It's preference really. I like 100%VG because it produces thick vapor. However; if the trouble continues with 100% VG juice, try switching to a 50/50 (PG/VG) blend, or just a 100%PG blend.
2) JC is a strong juice. At least, a 24mg nic strength of Tennessee cured is. It burned my throat as well. That's why I diluted it with a few drops of distilled water. My nova still works like a charm and the throat hit is a little bit less harsh.
3) It's preference really. I like 100%VG because it produces thick vapor. However; if the trouble continues with 100% VG juice, try switching to a 50/50 (PG/VG) blend, or just a 100%PG blend.
Some people are sensitive to PG and use mostly, or all VG. VG doesn't always make for a smooth hit, it depends on the flavor. Johnson Creek has a throat hit meter, which is handy. Look at something like their French Vanilla, and the TH meter. The juice you chose may be high on the TH meter. Like I stated earlier, the amount of nicotine will affect the TH. Mixing in VG will lessen that too. You can also get a bottle of the same juice you are using with less, or no nic and blend it with your current bottle without changing the flavor. When adding only VG, it will mute the flavor somewhat.
A 1.8 Ω (OHM) head will give a harsher hit than a 2.4 Ω head. You may also consider getting a Kranger T3 bottom coil. It is said they hit a little smoother than a top coil design.
You can get VG at a local drug store. Make sure it is USP grade. Don't add too much to begin with.
A 1.8 Ω (OHM) head will give a harsher hit than a 2.4 Ω head. You may also consider getting a Kranger T3 bottom coil. It is said they hit a little smoother than a top coil design.
You can get VG at a local drug store. Make sure it is USP grade. Don't add too much to begin with.
After all I have seen I am very hopeful that switching from 75/25 PG/VG to 100% VG Juice (or perhaps 75% VG after I dilute it some) that I can find a hit quality I am happy with
I love quite a few of Johnson Creek's juices, but their Red Oak line (100% VG) is very thick and does not work well in clearos. I consider the Vivi a clearo as well. And at 1.8 ohms, your atty will get hot very fast.
So you have a combo of slow wicking + very hot atty = burnt taste.
You can try a couple things. Replace the 1.8 head with a 2.4 head. Or "untwist" your wicks so they spread / fan out in the hopes it will wick better. Take hits further apart and not for as long.
But your best option is this: only use JC's 100% vg juice in cartos and dripping atties. Go with at least 70/30 PG/VG in any clearo.
You could try diluting with distilled water, but you'll also be diluting the flavor.
Not all of JC's juices are 100% VG, only their Red Oak line. Their Autumn Crisp is 80/20, works very well in clearos, and tastes amazing.
So you have a combo of slow wicking + very hot atty = burnt taste.
You can try a couple things. Replace the 1.8 head with a 2.4 head. Or "untwist" your wicks so they spread / fan out in the hopes it will wick better. Take hits further apart and not for as long.
But your best option is this: only use JC's 100% vg juice in cartos and dripping atties. Go with at least 70/30 PG/VG in any clearo.
You could try diluting with distilled water, but you'll also be diluting the flavor.
Not all of JC's juices are 100% VG, only their Red Oak line. Their Autumn Crisp is 80/20, works very well in clearos, and tastes amazing.
imo 100% anything is not good.... i think that 50/50 is good for a new vaper (or is it vapor....) so that way you get the best of both....
and i will bet that you are getting dry hits, and that is what is causing the pain.... do you have a regular atty? if so... try dripping, most of us need drip tips, but you can just take a toot off the atty, have to be short ones or the atty might get a tad hot.... just a though
and i will bet that you are getting dry hits, and that is what is causing the pain.... do you have a regular atty? if so... try dripping, most of us need drip tips, but you can just take a toot off the atty, have to be short ones or the atty might get a tad hot.... just a though
This is what I just purchased from JC.
Johnson Creek Original Sample Pack Johnson Creek Smoke Juice
Are all of these 100% VG?
If so can you buy PG separately (like you can with VG) to dilute the juice with?
Or should I just dilute it with my 75/25 PG/VG juice?
Johnson Creek Original Sample Pack Johnson Creek Smoke Juice
Are all of these 100% VG?
If so can you buy PG separately (like you can with VG) to dilute the juice with?
Or should I just dilute it with my 75/25 PG/VG juice?
Those are part of their Original line, so they should not be 100% VG. Their Original line is PG based. (Note that they sell 2 different versions of Tennessee Cured, one VG and one PG. The VG is sweeter.) They should be thinner and usable in clearos. Once you get some more experience, you'll get a feel for how thick or thin something is just by tipping the bottle and watching the fluid flow.
No, some are PG based. You will be surprised that some PG blends will have less a TH than some VG based juices. How much nicotine is in the kit? 2.4% is a little harsh for some people. You may consider 1.8%, or even 1.1%. A "0" percent nic juice will have no TH.
Yes, you can also buy PG USP grade.
Yes, you can also buy PG USP grade.
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This is the best advice to give to anyone who is new at vaping. I tried to take my first "hit" like I was still sucking a death stick. I felt like I was 17 all over again, coughing up a storm, eyes watering, the whole 9. I learned that you need to hold the vapor in your mouth and then inhale.
The ohm rating is stamped on the head. Look between the wicks, if you don't see it, look on the other side. If you still don't see it, you have a knock off.
Hi Greenskeeper!
Some versions of Vivi Novas have the airholes on the bottom flange as opposed to drawing air from the 510 connector. These tend to have a very tight draw and also tend to give hard hits. I have seen a few mentions of drilling these out to provide better airflow (proceed cautiously). Another aspect of how hard an atomizer hits is it's relationship to the incoming airstream. The more airflow the more vapor and inversely the lighter the TH. Check your coil to ensure that air can pass around both sides easily and equally. Also check it when fully saturated to make sure wick is not getting in the way... some models of Vivi have an "overwick" that can block airflow and IMHO serves no purpose. Last thought, you may want to "dry fire" your coil to ensure that it glows evenly when it becomes hot. This has to be done with the unit washed out and patted dry or it will not easily reach glowing temperatures. If your coil is mashed, it could lower the overall resistance and create a very small but very hot spot. This will taste dry, burny, hard and nasty.
Some versions of Vivi Novas have the airholes on the bottom flange as opposed to drawing air from the 510 connector. These tend to have a very tight draw and also tend to give hard hits. I have seen a few mentions of drilling these out to provide better airflow (proceed cautiously). Another aspect of how hard an atomizer hits is it's relationship to the incoming airstream. The more airflow the more vapor and inversely the lighter the TH. Check your coil to ensure that air can pass around both sides easily and equally. Also check it when fully saturated to make sure wick is not getting in the way... some models of Vivi have an "overwick" that can block airflow and IMHO serves no purpose. Last thought, you may want to "dry fire" your coil to ensure that it glows evenly when it becomes hot. This has to be done with the unit washed out and patted dry or it will not easily reach glowing temperatures. If your coil is mashed, it could lower the overall resistance and create a very small but very hot spot. This will taste dry, burny, hard and nasty.
I am pretty new to vaping. While I am not using a Vivi Nova...yet...I did order some on Monday...I did just start with an eGo C this morning. I have an eRoll that I have been using for the past two weeks. What I have found today is that that first hits on the new battery and atomizer were very harsh. Not delicious at all. And, I am vaping a juice I LOVE - Zombie Apocalypse from Alice in Vapeland. After an hour or so of vaping couple of puffs here and there I am noticing that the flavor is better and the throat hit is better without being harsh. I think it may be the new atomizer burning off or settling in or whatever. Not sure if this is helpful...but it may just be your equipment needs to adjust so-to-speak. Again, I am no authority...just guessing...
Hi Mystee, I agree, a seasoned wick is also very important. If I have a new atomizer coil that has a silica wick, I will usually give it a few 3 second dry pulses to burn off any volatile chemicals that may be on the wick, I then drip directly to the wick and do another three longer pulses (not red-hot), but I don't want to inhale from the atty until it gets a bit of juice resin on it. This is partially my paranoia about silica wicks and imagining silica shards flying into my lungs, but it also seasons the wick quickly to distribute the heat evenly into the wick.
Thanks for the responses guys! Will try adding in some drops of distilled water and low Nic content drops!
Does trimming the wick make any difference?
And in regards to JC Juice - Is there a juice that is less "thick" and wicks better with Vivi Novas?
I ordered a sample pack from JC with 10 flavors for $20. It has not arrived yet
Hi Greenskeeper, I don't know if anyone has answered regarding trimming the wick, but my two cents is "YES!!". My first Vivi experience was pretty bad and I had the long wicks. What you are talking about with the irritation may very well be "Dry" hits where there isn't enough juice on the coil and the bit you are getting is too little, too caustic/burned and too hot. The long wicks appear to get heavy and the port-hole into the atty causes a right-angle bent that restricts the wicking action. I cut my wicks and also unwind or "fluff" the ends so that the fibers just barely touch the tank walls. This catches juice against the tank wall and the wick fibers and feeds much better
Thanks for the input thus far - hoping for more advice other that the way I am smoking
I have tried hitting this thing every way possible-- french inhale, direct inhale, drawing and blowing some rings then inhaling after 5 seconds or so -- nothing is close to comfortable.
It sounds like your vvn is not wicking that's why you're getting dry hits and burning your throat. I have tried vvn's and clearos and they all have the same problem to some degree. You have to fiddle around with them most of the time. I even learned how to wick and recoil my own with 100% cotton yarn and that's the only thing that took care of this problem. But then again, you're having to recoil more often than you'd like to. I have since put my vvn aside and gone back to my consistently workhorse carto pyrex tank. I ordered a couple of Kanger T2's and T3's and the T3's are the only clearos so far that wick right without much fiddle time because of dry hits.
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