People have been vaping PG and VG over 12 years. No one has died from it.Please take a look at the article and it appears the problem is the same as those recently dying from vaping THC--just because a product can be eaten it doesnt mean it can be vaped. The effects of a food in the stomach is not the same as the effects in the lungs which have no digestive features.
To be honest, I never understood how VG, for example, could be inhaled. Eaten in foods, yes, but inhaled? Why wouldnt a person inhale a cheeseburger that, lets say, had first been dried and ground into dust. You wouldnt, right?
Previously, the research into ejuice said it could be 15 years before any ill effects were known.
PG, i think the article said, can be used in an I-V. So, we have eating, inhaling and I-V as nicotine delivery methods and the ingredients to do that cannot necessarily be mixed and matched to our discretion.
Maybe its time to re-think what can be inhaled safely and create a new kind of base.
440BB said it well, vaping cant be seen favorably now. Same with guns, 20 school shootings by rabid monsters made all inanimate guns bad, not to mention destroying the reputations of 70 million innocent owners.
We are finding that it also didnt take much to wreck vaping, and that big tobacco was bent on finding a way to say that somehow smoking was healthier than vaping. Still, we vapers want to quit smoking and if a vaping base can be found to more greatly reduce ill effects, i think we'd want that regardless of crazy negative articles written by people NOT on our side.
Vaping is under siege.
I was in Kalamata last year,you are the kind driver that waited for me to pass the road?Hi, Im Greek myself but from USA. My family is in Athens now. We farm olives in Kalamata and last time I was there, a mule was standing right in the road so I stopped and played with him, he was so friendly.
I want to see the data on what percentage are "useful" idiots, what other idiot classifications were employed in the analysis, and what criteria were used to classify "useful" idiots from, say, Kardashian idiots.New study released today: Modern "Scientists" and "Researchers" are really just "useful idiots".
That might be true IF there really were ill effects that could be greatly reduced. But there is no evidence that there are ill effects from PG or VG, and solid evidence that there are no ill effects. I think you are looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
If you read the study @Rossum posted above, it was done on rats with the opposite effect as the study you posted. And his posted study is definitely not influenced by current events, as it was done before vaping was a thing.Well, stop me if I do that because thats not the intention at all. Still, we dont know the long term effects and also, I certainly would try a safer base if one were created--why not?
A suspect problem with this article is the RATS. If VG/PG is seen to screw up the immune system of a rat, why isnt the same test being done on any active vapers? Thats very suspect, it says to me that they fear testing humans wouldnt give the same results.
Well, stop me if I do that because thats not the intention at all. Still, we dont know the long term effects and also, I certainly would try a safer base if one were created--why not?
Sure I would use a safer base. But to say another base was safer they would need to show the level of harm involved with the existing base, and the new base. So far I don't think they have shown any level of harm from the bases we use, apart from the rat experiment you mentioned. Sure, there could be some harm arising from long term use, beyond the timeframe we have been using them for. People have been inhaling both PG and VG for a long time, but not in the quantities used by vapers, so we don't know.