Don't get me wrong here. I LOVE V4L, but I think you guys are trying to do too much. All these different cartos. different juice formulas etc are getting a bit confusing IMHO. Just pick something and stick with it. I know you're trying to make thngs better for all of us, but maybe you should let the dust settle a bit. If the new "CoolCarts" are the ones similar to the turbos, those are THE best IMO. Stick with these and let's be done with it for a while. I know some folks will disagree with me, but it's just my .