New design SLB DSE103 batteries and atomizers (and carts)?

[Taelon]

The last delivery from Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop

from order 2x dse103 batteries + 1x atomizer spare parts
contained unexpected dse101-style 2 LED and mechanic or far less sensitive airswitch
batteries and a completely other design atomizer with one hole in
the middle instead of the four holes at the ceramic side, bigger heater and liquid feed not really matching old cartdriges anymore and looking other like the shop picture


Can anyone confirm this? Asking Wayne for false delivery of DSE101 parts, he says everything is OK and new DSE103 design, but the new atomizer seems to overload the cart's oil cup very quick and the middle hole instead of the four could lead to liquid flow to the battery airsensor and the switches are hard to activate

I find this quite big regressions and want the old SLB DSE103 design back and batteries with electric dynamic switches again.

Can anyone recommend me a better product of same style with same cheap price?

 

[Taelon]

No one? Well, then I consider it a shop store fault, just ordered again, will report.

 

[Ellis]

I have a dse103 (with plenty of spare parts) on order from ruyan. The order should get here in another 3-7 days. Will check my order and see if I notice the same.

 

[Taelon]

Thanks, according to UNEX statistics mine should arrive ~ 8/15/09 if no customs hold up.

 

[Taelon]

Arrived a few days before now, cool fast and secure registered airmail delivery. But again he sent me the other Atomizers with big liquid feed, other than shop picture for DSE103 atomizers. I've ordered extra new empty cartdriges now to see if different to the old ones.
I haven't complained, since prices are very cheap at ruyan-direct.

 

[Taelon]

I've ordered extra new empty cartdriges now to see if different to the old ones.

No diff. Testing new design atomizers... OK so far, better efficiency behaviour, measuring oil cap saturation time...

 

[Taelon]

measuring oil cap saturation time...

Longer than multiple refilled cartridge durations, great security advance

I cannot suck any liquid out anymore.

BTW, better tank swam material, does hold the liquid better in the tank.

 

[Taelon]

New Batteries arrived from heaven gifts (no more "ruyan-direct" ).

Got 2 LEDs (red/green) again and less sensible pressure sensors
Serials SLB BC 49436, BD 41857.

And a nasty, cartdrige plastics melting and useless more frequent "autoclean cycle" again which coals and destroys especially the new series DSE103 atomizers fast
TIP: Remove the glass(?) fibre liquid feed bevor use, the liquid it's carrying cannot stand the autoclean temperature and will burn to coal.

The one red LED types with sensible sensors were much better

BD 24234, B 93417 reserve.
not tested yet.

I'm not satisfied with SLB's quality anymore and still looking for a new as cheap supplier, suggestions?

 

[Taelon]

Cannot find better, others are too expensive, sticking with Heaven Gifts and will work around the atomizer killing batteries with
Mini e-cigarette USB Battery: usb pass through battery for BE103/DSE103/RN4081

 

[Taelon]

Well, the last atomizer from the last delivery has survived 5 autoclean cycles so far and has less mechanical fit tolerance and fits cartdriges fine again and has got other OHM resistance and autocleaning works sufficent with it

But melting cartdrige plastic still occurs if You don't notice the autoclean start and suck. This is bad and oxygen airflow from accidently sucking on autocleaning cycle rises the heater burn temperature above material tolerance temperature and it breaks, be careful

And maybe I killed the other atomizers by additionally burning clean with own AC-Adaptor, but I had to cause the autocleaning was not sufficent on them to burn the liquid crust off

Manufacturers R+D:
Why not invent a silicon insulatet copper plate or Schott CERAN® glass-ceramic covering the heater element spiral, so no liquid can reach the heater element spiral anymore, so longer lifetime and easier cleaning?
http://www.us.schott.com/hometech/english/products/ceran/applications/cooking_appliances/index.html

It should be possible to miniaturize that:
http://www.us.schott.com/hometech/e...plications/cooking_appliances/technology.html

 

[Ez Duzit]

I've seen a few threads about the auto clean cycle, and they all say the same thing. You should immediately unscrew the battery as soon as you notice the autoclean cycle kick in. Basically, the autoclean cycle is a leftover bit of programming from days gone by. Now it does more harm then good, and isn't necessary anymore. By unscrewing the battery for just a few seconds, you reset the mechanism.

 

[Taelon]

You should immediately unscrew the battery as soon as you notice the autoclean cycle kick in.

Sorry, thanks, but you cannot do this fast enough so this will lead to more and baked liquid crust on the heater spiral.

It works with the current atomizer, for now... until it dies, I report then.

 

[Taelon]

Atomizer still stands after many autoclean-cycles.

But the crackling sound at sucking is annoying. Was not with the older model series without middle hole at bottom.

 

[Taelon]

All atomizers dead within a few weeks. Last one seems to be killed by DSE103 usb battery which died too

The old series DSE103 parts stood for months...

 

[Zippy]

Can't start new thread, so I have to ask here.

Earlier today I have bought SLB DSE-084 (aka 8084). Vapor is frustrating. First draw makes fine volume vapor, but all the following look like air.
I've noticed that atomizer resistance to draw in and blow out considerably differs. Despite of what might be expected, normal mean of smoking (draw in) goes harder than blow back into e-cig!
Is it a regular atomizer behavior? Could you check your DSE-084 atomizer, detached from the battery and cap.
I still have 2 weeks warranty to change the device if atomizer proven to be defect.

 

[Ez Duzit]

Can't start new thread, so I have to ask here.

Earlier today I have bought SLB DSE-084 (aka 8084). Vapor is frustrating. First draw makes fine volume vapor, but all the following look like air.
I've noticed that atomizer resistance to draw in and blow out considerably differs. Despite of what might be expected, normal mean of smoking (draw in) goes harder than blow back into e-cig!
Is it a regular atomizer behavior? Could you check your DSE-084 atomizer, detached from the battery and cap.
I still have 2 weeks warranty to change the device if atomizer proven to be defect.

Until you have 10 or 15 posts, ( forget which), you can only start a post in the new member section, but you can respond to posts anywhere. Helps cut down on spam.
As far as your e-cig goes, I don't have that model, but the air resistance on all my atty's does feel different when drawing vs blowing. So that is normal.
Make sure your cartridges have juice in them, and the cart filler is not pressed down. It should be almost level with the top of the cart, so when you put the cart on the atty, the filler touches the atomizer, and the juice can wick from filler to atty.
Don't take quick hits like you would a regular cig. First take a quick primer puff just to heat the coil. Then a slow, easy hit for 4-5 seconds.

Here's a few links to help you out.


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...gh-5-6-please-do-not-post-here-thank-you.html



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-questions-about-electronic-cigarettes.html

 

[Taelon]

Can't start new thread, so I have to ask here.

No, You don't. Get out of my DSE103 parts quality thread and respect forum rules you signed at registering

 

[Ez Duzit]

And now we bring you back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Atomizer still stands after many autoclean-cycles.

All atomizers dead within a few weeks. Last one seems to be killed by DSE103 usb battery which died too

The old series DSE103 parts stood for months...

Well, I warned ya bout those autoclean cycles.

 

[Taelon]

Well, I warned ya bout those autoclean cycles.

Well, did not harm the older design attys.

3 new attys from HG just arrived, testing now and avoiding AC with bestecig's DSE103 usb passthru.

3 OHM types, Liquid smells little burned again or HG's new crap liquid, awaiting heater element failure, will report.

Resumed normal operation after 20 puffs, great vapour amount and smell is no more burnt, knock on wood...

 

[Taelon]

Atomizers fine, will keep at HG as favourite seller