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haleyboy1

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all atomizers will leak under the right circumstances, even clearos and cartos will leak. I use nothing but rba's and find them easy to transport and great on the go. The only time I have a leaking problem is when I've accidently flooded the combustion chamber, but generally can be cleared up fairly easily and not have any problems with leaking. My Term-C has never leaked on me, even when flooding the chamber. I simply shut down the juice control and vape till the excess fluid is atomized, then open it up a bit. Great rba for on the go, plus since it has a 5 ml tank, no need to worry about refilling it at work. I personally find my rba's much more convenient than most other atty's. Now some genesis rba's can be a pain, but even some of them are good to go too.


A protank is just an ok atty, you can do much better. the new iclear 30s is supposed to be quite good, am impressed with the Aspire Vivi Nova BDC tank also. PT coming out with a version 2 with dual coils. So that would be one to keep an eye out for.

The Aspire Vivi Nova is looking good, so what basically are the benefits of having an RBA over a clearo then?
 

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First, I think you need to figure out what kind of RBA you want to get. For some, they are the only way to go and can provide an excellent vape, perhaps even, an unrivaled vape. The best way to check them out is to review the RBA forum posts, look at different dealer sites that sell RBA's, and then to watch a bunch of YouTube Videos. For example, I use the Ithaka from GG, the Kayfun 3.1 and Lite from SvoeMesto, and the RSST, a copy or clone of the AC9 from Vapinaze. For RDA, rebuildable atomizers I have several clones of many popular devices and am looking at getting the Origen from Vaping Craze, when they come back in stock. Many of these devices have both inexpensive clones (Fasttech) and very good quality clones. For example the Russian is a clone of the Kayfun 3.1, and was recommended earlier. I started with several less expensive clones to see if I liked the RBA's, and to learn how to use them, before investing serious monies into the real high end gear. Some of the high-end gear is very difficult to get from time to time, anyway.

Second, once you have your RBA identified and you've watched a lot of YouTube videos on it, I suggest that you learn everything you can on battery safety and Ohm's Law. Good sources are Battery University and YouTube. A good Ohm's Law calculator is invaluable. You will also need to get an Ohm Meter, or use one on the battery device, if you go that route, or ideally, do both.

Next is to check out YouTube videos on building coils, and obtaining the rebuildable supplies. You will be able to select wicks with different materials from silica to cotton to mesh. The YouTube videos were a good guide for me. I suggest building your first coils with resistance of 1.5 Ohms or higher to start, as these will work on most PV/APV's.

Finally, you need to decide on what type of battery you want to use, either mechanical or regulated. Most regulated mods won't allow you to go below 1.5 Ohms, but I usually build my coils between 1.5 and 2.0 Ohms and then can use them on any device. Once you figure out the battery type, then we can probably help you narrow down the choices between Mechanicals or APV's.

So, there's a lot of learning to do, but it's not weeks and months worth of learning. Many of these things can be learned in hours and days, it's just that there are several areas of expertise that you have to learn before you can safely use the RBA's. I've seen many users learn everything they needed to know if one day, and were building and using RBA's the next day. It just takes what it takes. That being said, most new vapers don't get into vaping with RBA's, and we often discourage it because there is a learning curve, but that doesn't mean that someone with real determination couldn't do it, just be safe in the process. Our batteries are nothing to fool around with, and knowledge is your most important safety feature. Also, the regulated devices have many safety devices built in, so we often recommend them for newer members. This is a quite involved subject, and I'm just touching on the edges without much detail, but I wanted to provide some information in answer to your query, and give you some outline thoughts about the process you are about to undertake. I found that once I had done my homework, RBA's were quite easy to use, coils quite easy to build, and was happy I decided to include RBA's in my VapeQuest. Good luck to you! My two cents. Safety first!
 
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The Aspire Vivi Nova is looking good, so what basically are the benefits of having an RBA over a clearo then?
Clearomizers are an easy to fill and use juice attachment, more suited for on-the-go usage. The coil heads are replaceable from most vendors that sell clearomizers. They can mute some flavors, but are used for their convenience factor.

An RBA is a more advanced and complex juice attachment. Some personal research in their use and safety is necessary. You essentially make the wicks and coils yourself to suit your taste. They require having and knowing how to use a digital multimeter to check the resistance. They require IMR or hybrid batteries, and if doing sub-ohm coils require specialized IMR/hybrid batteries that have the ability for higher amp draw than normal IMR batteries. You must be willing to tinker with your setup, as they do not work right out of the box without proper knowledge and are a learned skill.

Juice Attachments Picture Dictionary

Information Resources for a New RBA User

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

iClear30.jpgInnokin iClear 30 clearomizer

AGA T2 on Provari's.jpg AGA-T2 rba's on Provari's
 
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I'd avoid mech mods to start with, simply because if you just want to vape'n'go they really aren't safe enough and for this purpose are old tech. There are more specialist uses for them that can make them invaluable for a small subset of experienced vapers.

A Vamo almost certainly won't last forever, but then it costs much less than a Provari and has some functions that the Provari doesn't. Please do not think that I am knocking the Provari - but early in your vaping career trying several different devices can be both informative and fun.

I cannot comment on any Vamo other than the SS V2, which has been working wonderfully for me for many months. If you go down this road you will need both good batteries and a good charger. I like Xtar chargers myself but there are many threads on this topic for you to read. A simple rule of thumb for both batteries and chargers is that if the word "fire" occurs anywhere in the name - don't buy it. For a Vamo you will want unprotected high drain batteries. I have had good results from Efests and Panasonics - search on "best batteries" for model numbers.

Whatever you decide on, good luck and enjoy vaping!
 

haleyboy1

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I'd avoid mech mods to start with, simply because if you just want to vape'n'go they really aren't safe enough and for this purpose are old tech. There are more specialist uses for them that can make them invaluable for a small subset of experienced vapers.

A Vamo almost certainly won't last forever, but then it costs much less than a Provari and has some functions that the Provari doesn't. Please do not think that I am knocking the Provari - but early in your vaping career trying several different devices can be both informative and fun.

I cannot comment on any Vamo other than the SS V2, which has been working wonderfully for me for many months. If you go down this road you will need both good batteries and a good charger. I like Xtar chargers myself but there are many threads on this topic for you to read. A simple rule of thumb for both batteries and chargers is that if the word "fire" occurs anywhere in the name - don't buy it. For a Vamo you will want unprotected high drain batteries. I have had good results from Efests and Panasonics - search on "best batteries" for model numbers.

Whatever you decide on, good luck and enjoy vaping!
Okay, thanks everyone. I think I'm going to go for the Vamo v5 and the Aspire Vivi Nova. Then after a few months I'll most likely switch to an RBA until I get the hang of things. The adjustable voltage and wattage plus the larger tank is going to be a great improvement over my current setup.
 

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I would recommend a KFL family atty like a shot, once you have 'em set up right they go like troopers and you will notice they "wake up" getting better and better as you vape more.

Vamo, excellent choice and gives you a handy resistance meter built in for home built coils and short, low power protections as well so you don't end up with half yer hand blown off :(

Only black cloud lining with Vamo's is they are well built but the finishes don't weather well but what you get for the price is well worth it imho.

FastTech do a nice little spares kit for the KFL which gives you frosty chimney, tank side, top cap and shoulder cap in a frosted PMMA for about 5 dollars
 

haleyboy1

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I would recommend a KFL family atty like a shot, once you have 'em set up right they go like troopers and you will notice they "wake up" getting better and better as you vape more.

Vamo, excellent choice and gives you a handy resistance meter built in for home built coils and short, low power protections as well so you don't end up with half yer hand blown off :(

Only black cloud lining with Vamo's is they are well built but the finishes don't weather well but what you get for the price is well worth it imho.

FastTech do a nice little spares kit for the KFL which gives you frosty chimney, tank side, top cap and shoulder cap in a frosted PMMA for about 5 dollars

Yeah, I'm really happy with it. I went for the stainless steel vamo so the finish wouldn't weather at all. The next step, probably in a few months is to get a mechanical mod, but that'll all come in good time! I'm happy with my setup at the moment and it's been serving me well!

Only downside to fasttech is the delivery time, it's horrendous. Took me 24 days to get my product after placing my order. I may go for DHL in future just so I can get my items, I'm really impatient!
 
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