New EGO TANK system.
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I wonder why mine are 1.05 and yours are 0.99. That's odd. Let me double check my work.... Second caliper measures the tank insert part and atty opening both at 1.05cm. Both of the calipers are from China though. I'd better start looking for a standard to check my calipers against. Thank you for setting the record straight.
Has anyone tried plugging the side holes in the ceramic cup as a flooding preventative, so that juice doesn't spill over into the mesh? (or at least not as much).
My wife and I are using 7 eGo-T attys from 3 different vendors on eCigs with various batt configs and 11 different DIY eliquids in rotation going for a couple of months between the two of us. We haven't had any flooding issues too prevent. I'm thinking maybe the flooding is something to do with a particular kind of eliquid maybe or perhaps a viscosity issue?
We're expecting problems this Summer when leaving ecigs in a hot car but have a plan for dealing with that issue but it doesn't involve modding the atty in any way. We thought we'd just unplug the tanks and cap them while the ecigs are left in a hot car. I recognize the flooding problem that some are having. I'm just not so sure it requires a hardware resolution.
Our liquids tend to be pretty heavy on the VG side. Most are greater than 70 percent VG. On the other hand, one of the liquids we're using is 100 percent PG. None of that seems to matter in our liquids. For us, it all has to do with how much water and or PGA and or Oil based flavorings are added to the mix. It's possible to measure the viscosity of an eliquid with a graduated cylinder and a marble that barely fits in the cylinder. Measuring the time it takes the marble to fall through the liquid gives you a relative viscosity to compare other liquids too. Maybe that could be a method to experiment with for flooding issues.
20? I got mine for 11. Still a waste f money as it didn't last any longer than a standard carto which cists a buck and a half.
Hey kardenm, I've found another way to improve airflow. It seems like you're pretty happy with the drilled holes. But if you ever try this sometime, I'd like to hear your opinion.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tance-inconsistent-new-attys.html#post2863109
I actually discovered it kind of by accident. I took your advise and drilled a 1/16" hole in the side of my tightest dragging atty. And it worked awesome! But then I tried plugging the hole up with my thumb, just to test the difference, and it still was dragging great. What the...??? I even covered it with electrical tape and still, dragging great. That just made no sense. It turns out, that by total luck, I drilled in exactly the same place where the standard side air intake is on the brass piece of the atty. The drill bit must have poked through and opened up that side hole, rendering a fantastically performing atty.
I loved the "tank" for about 2 months...
But now not so much...
all 3 of my atty's leak
Easily half of every full tank ends up leaking out
so now I'm looking for something new that wont tick me off or leak juice all over the place!
But I still feel this could very well be the future of vaping... the idea is great!
It just needs a LOT more work
But now not so much...
all 3 of my atty's leak
Easily half of every full tank ends up leaking out
so now I'm looking for something new that wont tick me off or leak juice all over the place!
But I still feel this could very well be the future of vaping... the idea is great!
It just needs a LOT more work
I'm over the tank. Enough money wasted there, I think. I had bad luck with the first couple of cartos that I tried and got a negative impression of them, but I tried them again, and I'm entirely sold - now I can focus on just buying e-liquid every few weeks instead of replacing hardware continuously.
Thanks for the feedback goodsignal! I will post further results when I mess around with this some more.
So far I'm having pretty good luck with the LR atty I got from Totally Wicked with just the air hole drilled in the side. I do get flooding once in a while but only when the tank gets low on liquid.
What you are saying does make sense and I may try this or try the dental pick method if I have more problems.
I do expect (and hope) that the manufacture will come out with more improvements as time goes on so all we do now may become moot. But I love all the experimentation meanwhile.
So far I'm having pretty good luck with the LR atty I got from Totally Wicked with just the air hole drilled in the side. I do get flooding once in a while but only when the tank gets low on liquid.
What you are saying does make sense and I may try this or try the dental pick method if I have more problems.
I do expect (and hope) that the manufacture will come out with more improvements as time goes on so all we do now may become moot. But I love all the experimentation meanwhile.
Codex..I hear ya! Got the VM in yesterday and so far it's a win. I'll PM ya with more info,k?
Yeah, it's fun to tinker and get good results. But I'm really looking forward to the next generation. I sincerely hope that they have an eye on this forum.
I don't think the side air hole is acting as much of a restriction, if I remove the atty and suck on it .. I can block and unblock the battery hole (the one blocked by the connector) with very little change in air resistance. This is effectively changing the hole size from a 1 sq mm hole to that plus about a 6 sq mm hole. An area change of around 700% with no noticeable change in draw.
The hole in the top ceramic is mostly covered by the heater and I expect that is the major restrictor for air flow, this is the one that will change over time as the heater is gunked up.
Its a straight path from the battery hole to the heater. I have not tested this yet but I think a dry burn would drop ash straight down that battery hole if atty is removed and tapped gently and vertically on a hard surface.
The hole in the top ceramic is mostly covered by the heater and I expect that is the major restrictor for air flow, this is the one that will change over time as the heater is gunked up.
Its a straight path from the battery hole to the heater. I have not tested this yet but I think a dry burn would drop ash straight down that battery hole if atty is removed and tapped gently and vertically on a hard surface.
You're probably working with a good atty. My best one (which I have not modified in any way) has a very easy draw. On that one I do notice some difference when I plug the center hole at the battery connection; but, like you, it's a marginal difference -- hardly any.
As far as the 700% area increase goes. The whole system is only going to perform as well as the weakest link. In a vaper's world, that's the smallest hole. In some attys the smallest hole may be at the ceramic slot because the coil and gunk is in the way. So no matter what, the atty will only draw as much as can pass through that particular slot. In which case, you could completely remove the entire brass battery connector, giving maybe a 10000% increase in area at the entrance; because of the limitations at the slot, not much more air will get through. A bottleneck is a bottleneck no matter how big the entrance or exit is.
Before I discovered the side air hole, I thought that it must be because the heating coil was surely too close to the ceramic slot. I removed hats, then very carefully pushed or pulled the coil so that there would be more air flow. I'm pretty sure that it helped some. But however it helped, it wasn't nearly as significant as the before and after difference that occurred after opening up the side air hole.
Not for a second do I think that this adjustment will universally work. I am convinced that there is some inconsistency in the manufacturing process for these attys. And there are probably different levels of inconsistencies for each part of the atty's anatomy. Some may come with heating coils too close to the ceramic slot. Some may come with a side hole that didn't get punched as much as it should or didn't get drilled as well as it could. Whichever part that has been most poorly endowed through the manufacturing process will be the part that most negatively affects the whole system.
Whatever it may be, from my recent purchase binge, two new attys came with wonderful air flow. Two of them came with mediocre air flow. And one of them came with horrifically poor airflow. My horrific atty now performs as well as the best atty I have ever owned. With certainty, the improvement happened when I expanded the side hole. That particular atty was probably of the poorly endowed side hole type. Your atty may be either an overall well adjusted one, or a poorly endowed heating coil type.
Long story short, the most effective way to improve air flow in a tight atty is to increase the size of it's smallest hole -- wherever that may be.
As far as the 700% area increase goes. The whole system is only going to perform as well as the weakest link. In a vaper's world, that's the smallest hole. In some attys the smallest hole may be at the ceramic slot because the coil and gunk is in the way. So no matter what, the atty will only draw as much as can pass through that particular slot. In which case, you could completely remove the entire brass battery connector, giving maybe a 10000% increase in area at the entrance; because of the limitations at the slot, not much more air will get through. A bottleneck is a bottleneck no matter how big the entrance or exit is.
Before I discovered the side air hole, I thought that it must be because the heating coil was surely too close to the ceramic slot. I removed hats, then very carefully pushed or pulled the coil so that there would be more air flow. I'm pretty sure that it helped some. But however it helped, it wasn't nearly as significant as the before and after difference that occurred after opening up the side air hole.
Not for a second do I think that this adjustment will universally work. I am convinced that there is some inconsistency in the manufacturing process for these attys. And there are probably different levels of inconsistencies for each part of the atty's anatomy. Some may come with heating coils too close to the ceramic slot. Some may come with a side hole that didn't get punched as much as it should or didn't get drilled as well as it could. Whichever part that has been most poorly endowed through the manufacturing process will be the part that most negatively affects the whole system.
Whatever it may be, from my recent purchase binge, two new attys came with wonderful air flow. Two of them came with mediocre air flow. And one of them came with horrifically poor airflow. My horrific atty now performs as well as the best atty I have ever owned. With certainty, the improvement happened when I expanded the side hole. That particular atty was probably of the poorly endowed side hole type. Your atty may be either an overall well adjusted one, or a poorly endowed heating coil type.
Long story short, the most effective way to improve air flow in a tight atty is to increase the size of it's smallest hole -- wherever that may be.
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What do you guys use to pull the wick up a little bit? I can't get my tweezers in that little hole. I can barely see what I am doing. Also, I don't have a silver hat on mine. What happened to my hat??
I take out the needle plate and push from the bottom. Others have had success with a safety pin, needle or tooth pick. Some of mine had very little mesh others had a full "hat" of it.
I had trouble adjusting the wick w/out taking the plate out. Was just too dark and can't see anything. You might want to try this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...875-ego-t-needle-plate-removal-step-step.html
Hi all,
I have been using the t-atties since 24-jan now. I lost the first one due to a popped coil during a dry burn. The first atty was more of a testing platform for me. It lasted me a month and a week. I'm still using the second one. I use a third only occasionally. The first atty had some wicking problems, but over all have had positive experiences with this system.
I can confirm the muting/changing of flavours issue others are mentioning.
On to a couple of theories, which I don't recall reading anywhere:
1. Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that one of the uses of the mesh around the cup could be to serve as a heat sink to the cup?
2. Muted/changed flavours could be the result of the condensate, particularly on the inner walls of the atty going back to the mesh. From the pics and vids I have seen, the cup has holes on the sides. What if some of the condensate is reaching the coil through those holes, mixing with the fresh juice coming from the wick? The condensate on the sides of the tank cart could also make it through to the coil directly by dripping by the straight sides of the needle plate. (The condensate could also contribute to some flooding maybe, something which I have yet to experience though)
Was it designed on purpose that the condensate can pass from the mesh to the cup, to add to the cooling effect (to protect the coil)
Just my
I have been using the t-atties since 24-jan now. I lost the first one due to a popped coil during a dry burn. The first atty was more of a testing platform for me. It lasted me a month and a week. I'm still using the second one. I use a third only occasionally. The first atty had some wicking problems, but over all have had positive experiences with this system.
I can confirm the muting/changing of flavours issue others are mentioning.
On to a couple of theories, which I don't recall reading anywhere:
1. Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that one of the uses of the mesh around the cup could be to serve as a heat sink to the cup?
2. Muted/changed flavours could be the result of the condensate, particularly on the inner walls of the atty going back to the mesh. From the pics and vids I have seen, the cup has holes on the sides. What if some of the condensate is reaching the coil through those holes, mixing with the fresh juice coming from the wick? The condensate on the sides of the tank cart could also make it through to the coil directly by dripping by the straight sides of the needle plate. (The condensate could also contribute to some flooding maybe, something which I have yet to experience though)
Was it designed on purpose that the condensate can pass from the mesh to the cup, to add to the cooling effect (to protect the coil)
Just my
Another tip I haven't read yet.
Re: leaking t-carts.
I've yet had only one that leaks (between the cap and the t-cart itself), but didn't get enough time to flood the atty.
Discovered this by chance. Quick and simple:
1. Take out your t-cart.
2. Wipe away any condensate.
3. Punctured hole pointing downwards, place a piece of paper towel (fold it in 2 or 3) against the side of the t-cart. Avoid touching the punctured hole with the towel to prevent the towel from "wicking" juice from there.
4. After a few secs check the paper towel. May take longer if it's a slower leakage.
If it's wet with juice, then you have a leaker.
An alternative to Step 3 is:
- place the piece of paper towel on a table or something horizontal and let your tank lay on it horizontally, again avoiding touching the punctured hole with the towel. If you try the horizontal method, make sure that at least half the t-cart is full.
You may need to do check for leaks all around where the cap meets the t-cart. You may wrap the paper towel around the t-cart instead of rotating the t-cart every few sec.
Re: leaking t-carts.
I've yet had only one that leaks (between the cap and the t-cart itself), but didn't get enough time to flood the atty.
Discovered this by chance. Quick and simple:
1. Take out your t-cart.
2. Wipe away any condensate.
3. Punctured hole pointing downwards, place a piece of paper towel (fold it in 2 or 3) against the side of the t-cart. Avoid touching the punctured hole with the towel to prevent the towel from "wicking" juice from there.
4. After a few secs check the paper towel. May take longer if it's a slower leakage.
If it's wet with juice, then you have a leaker.
An alternative to Step 3 is:
- place the piece of paper towel on a table or something horizontal and let your tank lay on it horizontally, again avoiding touching the punctured hole with the towel. If you try the horizontal method, make sure that at least half the t-cart is full.
You may need to do check for leaks all around where the cap meets the t-cart. You may wrap the paper towel around the t-cart instead of rotating the t-cart every few sec.
I like the tank system and my one tank atty has been going now for a month. I've taken the needle plate out twice. Both times, the wicking has been dark and turned back to white with a hot water cleaning. While I have the needle plate out, I clean the atty by running hot tap water through it for a couple of minutes, blowing through it periodically to purge the liquid residue. I then do a dry pulsing burn to clean the coil. I set the wick height with the top hat even with the low side of the slant cut in the needle.
That seems to restore like new operation for a week or so. Yesterday, I was getting good vapor with weak taste. I did the cleaning and it didn't seem to restore the taste to what I remembered when it was new. For a comparison, I got out my Mega Cylinder atty and popped in some new polyfill. After cleaning the cylinder atty and testing it with the same juice, the same weak taste was there. I dripped some of the same liquid into my 306 standard atty with the drip tip. That usually gives me an edge in taste, even over the tank (but not much). The 306 wasn't up to par, either!
I concluded that my taste buds were the problem. I ordered a new tank atty and it will be here in a couple of days. It doesn't hurt to have a backup. I still believe that my taste buds need some time to recover. It's just one of those things that happens when you vape (or smoke).
This morning, the tank tastes better. My tongue seems a little irritated, kind of like vaping all PG gives you the raw feeling in your mouth. We need to name this syndrome for reference!
The point? You can't always blame one atty. Try several types to compare. It may be YOU and things will get better on their own
That seems to restore like new operation for a week or so. Yesterday, I was getting good vapor with weak taste. I did the cleaning and it didn't seem to restore the taste to what I remembered when it was new. For a comparison, I got out my Mega Cylinder atty and popped in some new polyfill. After cleaning the cylinder atty and testing it with the same juice, the same weak taste was there. I dripped some of the same liquid into my 306 standard atty with the drip tip. That usually gives me an edge in taste, even over the tank (but not much). The 306 wasn't up to par, either!
I concluded that my taste buds were the problem. I ordered a new tank atty and it will be here in a couple of days. It doesn't hurt to have a backup. I still believe that my taste buds need some time to recover. It's just one of those things that happens when you vape (or smoke).
This morning, the tank tastes better. My tongue seems a little irritated, kind of like vaping all PG gives you the raw feeling in your mouth. We need to name this syndrome for reference!
The point? You can't always blame one atty. Try several types to compare. It may be YOU and things will get better on their own
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