Eh... I ordered two more atties to keep on hand just to be safe. I backstock at the same level a 510 user would. Just because things go pop at bad times.
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Eh... I ordered two more atties to keep on hand just to be safe. I backstock at the same level a 510 user would. Just because things go pop at bad times.
We just got 4 boxes of blank 510 carts that we can fall back to in an emergency I just want to make sure we like the system before we buy spares that can only be used in this manner. 
Just wanted to update my experience with the T after 8 days. The original atty I bought from TW has gunked up and/or dried out a couple of times, but has recovered perfectly with a couple of alcohol baths and one session of very mild dry burns. I also bought a couple of TAWAs from Ovale, along with a set of the fully clear tanks. I have only used one of the attys from Ovale. I got it Saturday (3 days ago) and it has performed perfectly so far. Nothing really new here, but I wanted to share a couple of thoughts/comments/suggestions:
1. It seems that the tanks and attys that I got from Ovale have a much tighter fit than the one from TW. Not sure if that's a design change or what, but it definitely feels tighter pushing the tank onto the atty. I haven't had any leakage from either the TW or the Ovale.
2. I really like the fully clear Ovale tanks. I know where the liquid level is without having to pop the tank. Comes in handy, especially since I ran one dry because I didn't know how low the tank was, and since the juice does go pretty fast.
3. It seems that the biggest problem I've had with these is wicking. A couple of things really seem to help with that:
a. juice viscosity seems very important. I typically use full or mostly (80%+) VG. I have had to cut these to a thinner consistency to get them to work well consistently. It doesn't take that much to get them to the right consistency, so not much loss of nicotine level, I don't think. I will have to start getting thinner juice or making my own (been contemplating that anyway).
b. I find that it helps quite a bit to give these things a dry (i.e., non-battery) draw with the air holes covered every so often to keep the juice flowing properly.
c. I also find that it helps to load the tank with the atty side (i.e., the hole in the tank that connects to the atty) facing down. Doing it the opposite way may create some kind of vacuum issue or something (maybe you scienctific types can help me out with how this might work). I started out doing it the opposite way (battery pointed up toward the ceiling) and it never seems to wick very well that way.
Having used these little methods, these things have been working really well for several days now. It looks like an atty bath every week or so will be a necessity, but if you keep the things clean and wet, they are golden.
1. It seems that the tanks and attys that I got from Ovale have a much tighter fit than the one from TW. Not sure if that's a design change or what, but it definitely feels tighter pushing the tank onto the atty. I haven't had any leakage from either the TW or the Ovale.
2. I really like the fully clear Ovale tanks. I know where the liquid level is without having to pop the tank. Comes in handy, especially since I ran one dry because I didn't know how low the tank was, and since the juice does go pretty fast.
3. It seems that the biggest problem I've had with these is wicking. A couple of things really seem to help with that:
a. juice viscosity seems very important. I typically use full or mostly (80%+) VG. I have had to cut these to a thinner consistency to get them to work well consistently. It doesn't take that much to get them to the right consistency, so not much loss of nicotine level, I don't think. I will have to start getting thinner juice or making my own (been contemplating that anyway).
b. I find that it helps quite a bit to give these things a dry (i.e., non-battery) draw with the air holes covered every so often to keep the juice flowing properly.
c. I also find that it helps to load the tank with the atty side (i.e., the hole in the tank that connects to the atty) facing down. Doing it the opposite way may create some kind of vacuum issue or something (maybe you scienctific types can help me out with how this might work). I started out doing it the opposite way (battery pointed up toward the ceiling) and it never seems to wick very well that way.
Having used these little methods, these things have been working really well for several days now. It looks like an atty bath every week or so will be a necessity, but if you keep the things clean and wet, they are golden.
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The wife is a TV A/C user, so I bought her a kit. She gets her A/C from TV with 20% VG adder.... and has been relatively happy with that mix in her cartos.
She was completely dissatisfied with the performance of that liquid in the "T". I forced her to bully her way through one tank, but that was it. The "T" is back in the box.
I've ordered some doubler without VG and we'll give it another shot once that shows up.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I will just have to wait and see for myself.
I feel a little different about the products.
I was a hardcore dripper until these mega atty's came out.
I didn't like the taste dripping with the super ego mega atomizer but the huge carts are great. Especially when brand new.
I Love the standard 510 atty and cone because of the non leaking but the super ego atty to me seems WAY more powerful.
The only issue I have with those carts is having to top off a few times a day which isn't really that bad.
I hope I don't have to wait too long for the tanks to arrive.
I have now tried 3 atomizers, blowing, rinsing, drying, fluffing, screaming, throwing, pleading, praying, etcetera, etcetera. At best they gave decent vapor with a slight plasticy taste. At worst, well, we won't get into describing the horrid taste that goes away for a couple puffs after blowing it out and cleaning. I tossed them to the side yesterday upon receiving a pack of ce2 xl's. Right out of the box I vaped happily all night. Good flavor, good vapor. Topped off with a little less than a ml about 3am, and again about an hour ago. The T I was pouring liquid into quite often at seemingly random intervals. Full, full, full, full, suddenly empty. I've ordered some of the clearomizers so I can see how much liquid is in the cart, and also some smart carts which appear to be the middle ground between a stock cart and a tank system for flavor testing while I'm mixing. I really wanted this to work but it turned out to be a waste of my time as the ce2's hold more and waste less while giving an overall better experience. I am a fairly inexperienced vaper who is trying out a lot of the more affordable products and mods. I have a lot of coworkers who are following me into the vaping world and I would honestly not recommend this system to any of them as it is too likely to discourage them from ecigs as a viable course. Of course this is my opinion.
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i tried version 2 of the ovale ego tank today.
I tried just one so far and I don't know if i picked up a very lucky one but it performs and wicks better than all of the 6 version 1 i have.
It wicks super 'wet' even with completely full tank.
The old version did get perfectly wet from half tank onward.
The needle is a little different from v1.
it's narrower at the top and gets wider at the bottom.
I think the conized needle shape makes the connection with the tank more tight,
so when you make a draw the juice is forced to wick down into the needle with more strenght.
It produce a huge amount of vapor.
Also the draw seems more tight than the old ones.
I don't know if the new version landed in US (i'm in Europe),
if you are in the States you might ask your supplier if they have the 2nd version.
i tried version 2 of the ovale ego tank today.
I tried just one so far and I don't know if i picked up a very lucky one but it performs and wicks better than all of the 6 version 1 i have.
It wicks super 'wet' even with completely full tank.
The old version did get perfectly wet from half tank onward.
The needle is a little different from v1.
it's narrower at the top and gets wider at the bottom.
I think the conized needle shape makes the connection with the tank more tight,
so when you make a draw the juice is forced to wick down into the needle with more strenght.
It produce a huge amount of vapor.
Also the draw seems more tight than the old ones.
I don't know if the new version landed in US (i'm in Europe),
if you are in the States you might ask your supplier if they have the 2nd version.
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I have force feed myself 3 tank fulls of 50%pg 50%vg today in the new tank atty. Most of the time it runs dry and after I take unpowered draws the vapor comes back but the flavor is burnt. Got home from work and put my trusty 510 atty back on with zfm ahhhh sweet spot with no burnt taste. I find it only works well if i take 2 hits and let it sit for 10 minutes then 2 more and so on. This just doesn't fit my vaping habits.
I will try some 100% Pg and see if it will wick better
I will try some 100% Pg and see if it will wick better
Tigersun, I think that 70/30 has been the sweet spot for most. That seems to work the best for me anyhow.
Thanks,
Jeff~
Have they made any changes to the caps for the tanks. I was wondering if they changed the 'spike' maybe they are going to use a slightly more flexible opening in the cap for it to go through.
I haven't got any of these yet as they have only become available this week here in Australia (3 distributors so far) and I ordered some on Monday. I just ordered tanks and atties as the full kits are the ones that do NOT have the fancy "5 Click ON/OFF Switch", which is a shame. I like the idea of that for carrying around in my pocket. Back to the button covers it seems for the time being.
Also a question for those that are using or have tried the 1300mah VGO batteries on the eGo-T. How do they work, as I believe they are the full 3.7v output which makes them a little 'hotter' than a regular eGo battery. Anyone?
Now, where is that damn mailman!!
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this system simply does not work with all e-liquids. Then again, I have yet to actually find a PV system that does.
I have found quite a few "off the shelf" liquids that work well in my tank. SOme of my other favorite liquids have worked after being "doctored".. and for some other liquids, I have yet to find a viable solution. Still working at it though.
That's for sure... I was fiddling with it (you know because I want to play country) like I tend to do with things.. and probing it with a dental pick wasn't really a good idea
.. well I managed to save it,, but none the less.. I gotta be more careful next time I am loving this tank so far... I am using my own mix of 555 and using the same tank X amount of refills (lost count).. though it isn't perfect for minor reasons.. it is still satisfaction at it's most... of course these are my experiences so far..
LGD
OK Cozz, I removed the additional /URL tag from the pic. It should work better now.
I do not have any of these problems people speak of. Mine works a treat.
I use Vapor Station juice right out of the bottle, and it works PERFECTLY. I did however have to blow out my trusty "no maintenance atty yesterday due to clogging, but I have filled it at least 40 times. (same original tank)
I so like it better on a "true" 3.7 device.
I do not have any of these problems people speak of. Mine works a treat.
I use Vapor Station juice right out of the bottle, and it works PERFECTLY. I did however have to blow out my trusty "no maintenance atty yesterday due to clogging, but I have filled it at least 40 times. (same original tank)
I so like it better on a "true" 3.7 device.
I threw together a quick video on cleaning these in response to a bunch of requests. Your mileage may vary:
YouTube - cozzcon's Channel
YouTube - cozzcon's Channel
Well I believe I was one of the first posters in this thread to report the burning yucky taste and wicking problems etc.
Just want to tell you guys that if you follow the advice the Janty store rep gave me, it will be fine. It has been 13 days since I started following his user instructions and my almost 6 week old TAWA is still vaping as well as my 13 day old new non tawa atty.
Quite simply he said all of those issues will be resolved if you follow this advice (works perfectly for me)
Draw slow but deep.
Only take 6 - 7 draws and let the pv rest for a minute or so.
All I can say is mine work perfectly now. Not as good as dripping for when I need a super strong 'hit' and flavor but good for when I just need a vape and not a mouth / throat / head explosion.
As for the person who asked about the XL cartos, I use a Janty one and prefer it for short journeys as it is only 2 pieces and is more compact. As for vape comparisons, I'd say the XL carto puts out smoother vape but the tank attys and cart put out STRONGER vape and stronger tasting vape. With the XL carto the flavor is muted just a tad by the filler and with the tank you can get a slight plastic air taste from the tank (but not an actual plastic taste if that makes sense. And that's only with light flavoured juices. And then with dripping on that last hit you get hot atty taste so none are 'perfect.')
I am pretty impressed with how well this 6 week old TAWA atty is working after all it's been through - even though admittedly I don't vape nowhere near as heavy as most of you guys, probably not even 1ml in the week days and maybe 1ml a day at weekends. Working still consitantly every single draw.
Just want to tell you guys that if you follow the advice the Janty store rep gave me, it will be fine. It has been 13 days since I started following his user instructions and my almost 6 week old TAWA is still vaping as well as my 13 day old new non tawa atty.
Quite simply he said all of those issues will be resolved if you follow this advice (works perfectly for me)
Draw slow but deep.
Only take 6 - 7 draws and let the pv rest for a minute or so.
All I can say is mine work perfectly now. Not as good as dripping for when I need a super strong 'hit' and flavor but good for when I just need a vape and not a mouth / throat / head explosion.
As for the person who asked about the XL cartos, I use a Janty one and prefer it for short journeys as it is only 2 pieces and is more compact. As for vape comparisons, I'd say the XL carto puts out smoother vape but the tank attys and cart put out STRONGER vape and stronger tasting vape. With the XL carto the flavor is muted just a tad by the filler and with the tank you can get a slight plastic air taste from the tank (but not an actual plastic taste if that makes sense. And that's only with light flavoured juices. And then with dripping on that last hit you get hot atty taste so none are 'perfect.')
I am pretty impressed with how well this 6 week old TAWA atty is working after all it's been through - even though admittedly I don't vape nowhere near as heavy as most of you guys, probably not even 1ml in the week days and maybe 1ml a day at weekends. Working still consitantly every single draw.
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Hmmm....I am wondering if TW honestly was sent a bad batch or 1st production run. I have been using one atty from Cignot the past 2 days and have not had the issues like I have had with my TW atties.
Upon doing some brief research around the forums it seems that most of the people who are having issues are using the TW atties.
I will let everyone know if the Cignot atty has the same problems as well, but so far so good!!
When my Cignot atties come in, I'll show a comparison between them and the Ovale atomizer- assuming there are any differences. If there aren't there's no point.
What I'd like to see is a side by side comparison if the TW, Ovale, and Joyetech versions. I'd tend to agree with you that the product has been revised.
I've seen some differences between the original Joye "eval" unit that I received and the subsequent units that I got from Cignot.... but I don't know if I can attribute the differences to design changes.. or just normal manufacturing unit-to-unit variations...
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