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caraz

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For those of you that have mentioned a lack of taste. Do you think it may have anything to do with juice getting into the mouth?

I have noticed with all other atty/carto combos that I often get enlarged taste buds or a numb toungue feeling if a draw directly over my tongue. It occured to me yesterday that since I have been using the tank system I have not had those issues, and I cannot remember the last time I actually got juice in my mouth. Which seems to happen at least every now and then with other systems.

Just a thought.

Has anybody else had a similar experience?
 

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I had a little leakage issue today - I have been vaping the same atty and tank since day one - today I decided to try that same tank in another atty and boom, it started leaking... so I cleaned it all up, got a brand new tank for this second atty, and popped it in.

Interestingly, no leaking what so ever and perfect vapage.. This leads me to believe that when you pop a new tank into a specific atty, you need to keep that tank paired up with that atty, or you run the risk of leakage. Of course theoretically, this should not matter, but in my case today, it did..

same rev atty? or could you have a V1 and V2 where the V2 needle is slightly bigger?
 

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I don't mean to muddy the waters, but just some thoughts after reading this thread:

First off, I like the eGo-t.
It's a brilliant idea on paper, and for me, so far, it works well.
But when looking at it, I still have to consider the cost ratio of what is still a consumable item.

Any conventionally designed atomizer will fail eventually.
......

...

And again, for the sake of argument, say that you can get, with proper cleaning and a little TLC, 2 months out of an eGo-t atty.
(That may be a conservative estimate, but for now I'll stick with it.)

Even with those being "guesstimates", I'm still 2 weeks ahead of the game.

.....

Add to that: I prefer the overall taste of a carto over an eGo tank. (Tanks seem, for me at least, to mute flavors.)

The price of an eGo-t atty may drop in price in the future, but by how much?
The cost of an eGo Mega atomizer is still very high compared to the regular 510 in was made to replace. And I can't see either eGo specific attys dropping price-wise much more than they are right now.


So, for me at least, while the tank system is an interesting experiment, it's still just that: an experiment. And unfortunately, one that I can't see it improving to the point of becoming my main means of vaping. No matter what kind of improvements made: whether it's a Pyrex tank, a perfect wicking system to the coil, or whatever fault fixed in the future... it's still a consumable item that is going to wear out. (Again, it's still a conventional atomizer. It just has a different and more complex delivery system.)

At that point I have to weigh the cost of convenience over that of price/performance.

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First off let me say I don't disagree with what you're saying. All valid "guesstimates" as far as I can tell.

Just my thoughts on a few points.

This is a 'new' system, based largely on the 510 tankomizer disasters from last year. Now they were rubbish.

The eGo-T is a huge improvement on the tankomizers. But it does indeed need some tweaking.

After being on the CE2 threads I've come to the conclusion that R&D is done by the people that use them.

Which is understandable as there are so many different variables to consider.

** Human likes and dislikes (hot, warm or cool vape etc),
** Fast short cigarette type drags, long slow straight to the lungs type drags,
** A vast array of PV types used (3.2, 3.7, 4.2, etc),
** A myriad of e-liquids with varying contents and viscosity VG, PG, Flavourart, PA etc) and
** Possibly different weather conditions (freezing temps in the US and heatwave here in Oz),
** Possibly atmospheric pressure (these things work partially off a vacuum air pressure thingy to drag the juice through efficiently, or so I read) and so on.

Then you add the atomizer problem of it burning out at any given time. We are getting 6 months warranty on these here in Oz and I don't know why you aren't getting it in the US as well. I've seen 14 days, 1 month and 3 months. Ask your suppliers why, as the manufacturer advertised 6 month warranty.

Flavour a little muted is another problem put forward a lot. This is easily fixed on your next e-liquid purchase. Buy eGo-T enhanced juice. Whats that you say. Well it doesn't exist - yet per se but the Suppliers should get with the program a little and come up with say, a double or a triple flavour that works well with the eGo-T. There are probably plenty of willing testers around to help out and get the 'right' strength.

Not all systems are created equal. The CE2 (when working optimally) is by far streets ahead in the flavour stakes over regular 'filler' cartos. Some say dripping is the best but I have yet to experience that - all I get is poor results, so I can't compare.

Reading the cartomizer threads it seems the filler cartos are all over the place too as far as performance and longevity is concerned. There are some that go through at least one carto a day!!

I guess what I am trying to say is that with a little tweaking of the care and feeding of the eGo-T by each individual user to optimize performance for their vaping own style AND some real improvements in the wick (isn't it always the wick) and size and composition of the tank (which I really don't have too much of a gripe with), then the eGo-T is a big step in the right direction.

Furthermore, these are the first style of PV I would be willing to give to a complete novice wanting to try changing over to vaping that I have faith in enough not to turn them off vaping completely as it is too hard, messy or inconsistent as with ANY other system available that I am aware of.
 

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First off let me say I don't disagree with what you're saying. All valid "guesstimates" as far as I can tell.

Just my thoughts on a few points.

This is a 'new' system, based largely on the 510 tankomizer disasters from last year. Now they were rubbish.

The eGo-T is a huge improvement on the tankomizers. But it does indeed need some tweaking.

After being on the CE2 threads I've come to the conclusion that R&D is done by the people that use them.

Which is understandable as there are so many different variables to consider.

** Human likes and dislikes (hot, warm or cool vape etc),
** Fast short cigarette type drags, long slow straight to the lungs type drags,
** A vast array of PV types used (3.2, 3.7, 4.2, etc),
** A myriad of e-liquids with varying contents and viscosity VG, PG, Flavourart, PA etc) and
** Possibly different weather conditions (freezing temps in the US and heatwave here in Oz),
** Possibly atmospheric pressure (these things work partially off a vacuum air pressure thingy to drag the juice through efficiently, or so I read) and so on.

Then you add the atomizer problem of it burning out at any given time. We are getting 6 months warranty on these here in Oz and I don't know why you aren't getting it in the US as well. I've seen 14 days, 1 month and 3 months. Ask your suppliers why, as the manufacturer advertised 6 month warranty.

Flavour a little muted is another problem put forward a lot. This is easily fixed on your next e-liquid purchase. Buy eGo-T enhanced juice. Whats that you say. Well it doesn't exist - yet per se but the Suppliers should get with the program a little and come up with say, a double or a triple flavour that works well with the eGo-T. There are probably plenty of willing testers around to help out and get the 'right' strength.

Not all systems are created equal. The CE2 (when working optimally) is by far streets ahead in the flavour stakes over regular 'filler' cartos. Some say dripping is the best but I have yet to experience that - all I get is poor results, so I can't compare.

Reading the cartomizer threads it seems the filler cartos are all over the place too as far as performance and longevity is concerned. There are some that go through at least one carto a day!!

I guess what I am trying to say is that with a little tweaking of the care and feeding of the eGo-T by each individual user to optimize performance for their vaping own style AND some real improvements in the wick (isn't it always the wick) and size and composition of the tank (which I really don't have too much of a gripe with), then the eGo-T is a big step in the right direction.

Furthermore, these are the first style of PV I would be willing to give to a complete novice wanting to try changing over to vaping that I have faith in enough not to turn them off vaping completely as it is too hard, messy or inconsistent as with ANY other system available that I am aware of.

Totally agree.
The flavor aspect: That's some good thinking. Good prediction, definitely!
As far as dripping is concerned, though, you are not a believer, so f... off here, for this is my religion, heee!
 

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Everyone is different but IMO the CE2 is way better than the Ego-t. I have had both for a while now and I still try to use my Ego-t every now and then but it just doesn't come close to the CE2 and it not as enjoyable at all to me :(.
I totally agree with you there. I am on ego T for a week now. I am trying to like it like most people here but it doesn't come close to CE2 syringe mod (strom's syringe mod), What am I missing here?
 

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There's been some good input on this thread about how these could be better, hopefully the manufacturer reads some of this once and a while. whats everyone think about a good stainless steel tank, the needle in the Atty is a bit thicker and threaded, you screw the new 3ml tank with the female threads onto the threaded male needle in the Atty that's the pin till its snug. I think this would make for a solid connection and a better tasting vape and 3ml's of liquid instead of the current small amount that it holds.!
 

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There's been some good input on this thread about how these could be better, hopefully the manufacturer reads some of this once and a while. whats everyone think about a good stainless steel tank, the needle in the Atty is a bit thicker and threaded, you screw the new 3ml tank with the female threads onto the threaded male needle in the Atty that's the pin till its snug. I think this would make for a solid connection and a better tasting vape and 3ml's of liquid instead of the current small amount that it holds.!

Sounds good in theory. Wonder if it would affect in any way the wicking works?
 

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FWIW, here's my take on the flavor issue. I've tried probably 10 flavors, all of which I am familiar with. They are also all DIY so they are custom made to MY particular taste. Some come through loud and clear, others are barely there.

What I've noticed is that "lighter" (and I don't mean the color) flavors are prominent while what I would describe as "darker" flavors are much more muted.

Darker flavors in my mind are things like coffees, caramels..."richer" tasting things.

Lighter flavors are "bright" and lean more toward the fruit spectrum.

I'm curious as to if others are experiencing the same.
 

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I just wipe the tank cap realy REALY dry before incerting it in tankomizer. I guess something to do with the liquid surface tension or hydrophobic property of a plastic tank - donno.

First filling was easy - dripping through the newly made hole. Second filling was a mess: the liquid would not get in the same way, I had to use a syringe. Half of that liquid leaked out all over the battery because I didn't wipe out the tank cap realy clean.
For next filling I popped the cap off after I clean all the mess and watched close for leakage when vaping. No more leakage since last Tuesday!!!

And did I mention this? - I Loooooooove my eGo-T:vapor:
 
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Quinta

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FWIW, here's my take on the flavor issue. I've tried probably 10 flavors, all of which I am familiar with. They are also all DIY so they are custom made to MY particular taste. Some come through loud and clear, others are barely there.

What I've noticed is that "lighter" (and I don't mean the color) flavors are prominent while what I would describe as "darker" flavors are much more muted.

Darker flavors in my mind are things like coffees, caramels..."richer" tasting things.

Lighter flavors are "bright" and lean more toward the fruit spectrum.

I'm curious as to if others are experiencing the same.

I discovered new overtones in my Mango and Peach from I-Vape.
 

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Sounds good in theory. Wonder if it would affect in any way the wicking works?

I don't think so Hotwire considering the wick is in the pin and goes down to the bridge witch has even more, I don't even think it would be needed in the pin, I would make that Pin a bit wider and heavy duty with threads like where saying and have the opening a bit more heavy duty and threaded on the cart end, Plus having a tank with 3ml's would be seriously good and made from stainless steel, dam it's a really good Idea and have that atty around 2ohms. I think it would pound out vapor with great flavor. I'll give you the honers draw it up and send it in. ! hahaha for real though it would work and be the king of vapes.!
 

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Anyone have an issue where your tank atty just won't screw onto your battery? I bought a pack of 3, 2 of them fit perfectly fine and are flush with the battery, the third stops tightening 2-3mm away from the battery which apparently is too far for it to reach the connection because it doesn't work. I am debating whether or not to force it on, but risk stripping the battery threads.
 

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Anyone have an issue where your tank atty just won't screw onto your battery? I bought a pack of 3, 2 of them fit perfectly fine and are flush with the battery, the third stops tightening 2-3mm away from the battery which apparently is too far for it to reach the connection because it doesn't work. I am debating whether or not to force it on, but risk stripping the battery threads.

Don't force it - send it back and get replacement - much cheaper than buying a new ego battery!
 

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There's been some good input on this thread about how these could be better, hopefully the manufacturer reads some of this once and a while. whats everyone think about a good stainless steel tank, the needle in the Atty is a bit thicker and threaded, you screw the new 3ml tank with the female threads onto the threaded male needle in the Atty that's the pin till its snug. I think this would make for a solid connection and a better tasting vape and 3ml's of liquid instead of the current small amount that it holds.!

The problem with a screw-on tank would be that you couldn't line up the button where you want it, unless you go with a round tip instead of the whistle tip. A round tip would make it easy to increase capacity without making the tank longer. Personally, I don't mind the plastic tanks, I've never had leaks or a plastic taste. I do wish they held more juice though.
 

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Hi all,

Mine is working great! No leaks. Great vapor, but as others have said, greatly reduced flavor. I've tried some of the stronger menthols I've had and do get a good taste. But, it's not my favorite juice. :-(

Any news on LR atomizers for these? I really like a warmer vape as well.

Just as a side note... Personally, I have had no luck at all with the CE2 R4 clear cartos. PIA to fill. Not wicking good (I guess.. tastes burnt half the time)
 

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Seems like I have some tweaking to do now with one of my T atty's. I'm getting the burned taste as of my last refill. I take a pin and tried pushing the wick down the 1/16th of an inch that was suggested earlier and let it sit over night, it still doesn't seem to be wicking properly. I dripped a few drops of liquid directly onto the wick just now to see if I can kick start it, we'll see if that does any good.
 

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I just got my 3rd Tank atty in the mail yesterday. So far I have had one 'pop' after a dry burn, and one that doesnt vape worth a damn. The new one I got has the wicking material higher up, and it looks like a lot more of it in the spike. This new one actually produces quite a bit of vapor so far. Im not going to mess with it and see how long it stays that way, and if the flavor starts coming out.
 
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