New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Cloud Wizard

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guys I have a question
I'm using vtube with the DID and vaping it from 3.8V to 4.5V, and Just found ego battery that I bought when they first came out, so I decided to put in this small battery. but I was surprised, the vapor production was more than using vtube in 4.5V
is that normal?
Depending on the resistance, the Lavatubes have a safety limiter. PBusardo did some tests that gave the following voltage maxes for various resistances: 1.25ohm/3.5v 1.5ohm/3.8v 2.0ohm/4.8 If your wrapping really low ohms, your LT may actually be putting out less voltage (even though the widow says 4.5v). Not sure what version of the VTube you have, they may have corrected this in later models.
 

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Awesome!! Thanks for the pics too, it really helps to understand what's happening.
I wonder why the flavor muted some? I wonder if it will return to normal after a few hours? Keep us updated!

I switched flavors and it tastes great!. So, haven't used this setup long enough to know whether it's just really juice specific. I do know my other DID setup up normally seem more versatile. Here's the kind of vapor it's putting out:
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Depending on the resistance, the Lavatubes have a safety limiter. PBusardo did some tests that gave the following voltage maxes for various resistances: 1.25ohm/3.5v 1.5ohm/3.8v 2.0ohm/4.8 If your wrapping really low ohms, your LT may actually be putting out less voltage (even though the widow says 4.5v). Not sure what version of the VTube you have, they may have corrected this in later models.

thanks a lot I got the vtube ss from apollo, and I'm sure that you are right because I have 2 wraps with 1.7 ohms. and when I increase the voltage from 4V to 4.5V I did not notice any difference. I want to get Provari, but the DID looks amazing in my full stainless steal vtube.

and by the way with 2 wraps and just using small ego battery the vapor production is just unbelievable, it's even more than any video posted online expect for the one that posted in this thread yesterday. and guys there is a tip if you want to increase vapor in the DID first take the DID from your mod then take the top cap off and try to close the big screw that holding the tank from the top and from bottom (your hand is not enough to screw it tightly) you have to use Pliers but make sure not scratch you DID. so this way everything is tight and there is no way for air to access and you will get better vapor production and really solid device. and if do it guys tell us you experience
 

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Hello Jim

Is the center post on the Mini DID now SS? Does it still use an inner tube?

If the center post is SS will you be making these SS parts available for the big DID?

Finally would you be kind enough to include an extra set of screws for my Mini DiD I just ordered? If you PM your PayPal I will pay directly.

The Mini DID looks awesome and many congratulations for producing an RBA that looks like it will give the Line some serious competition :)

Totally serviceable and upgradeable. Machined 510 connector, 5mm shorter than the Line and at 14mm wide it's the same.

You've done amazing.




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Those little chrome Threaded rings for the Ego threads are nice too, they can act as an air control and liquid control too, when you snug them up to the bottom of the DID, then back it off just a smidgen :) I use this set up on mine works good and hides the threads, these will be great for the Mini DID as well which looks super on the Ego Twist

I don't see how this could do anything given the location of the air hole could you explain it any further?
 

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After having my DID for a week now and I noticed the big amount of TH I'm getting from it. I'm using 18mg and it's like a hammering my throat with every drag.

I'm considering to lower down on my nic level to 12mg. Honestly this is the first time 18mg juice kicked me like crazy :D
Now that's what I've been wanting to hear!

I love a good kick in the throat! It so happens 18mg is my nic strength. :)
 

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DID Question

What if any thing does the size of the center hole in the SS mesh wick make? humm!! let me rephrase that :)

Does the size of hole in the center of the wick mater? if so why?


I'm new to RBAs but have been wracking my brains and burning out my search engine trying to "figure it all out" because well...type A personality I guess

The most popular opinion I found was

-juice on the bottom (DID, genisis etc) you want to use as much mesh material as possible with a smallish but decent sized hole in the center. More mesh = more capillary action = faster wicking, more juice delivery to the coil, etc. For this reason 400 is best, higher density of holes and hence more capillary action

-juice on the top (GTank, etc) you want as much mesh material as possible with minimum hole, if any, so as to prevent flooding

well, none of that worked for me on the top coils (DID, Zen) or bottom coils (Gtank). I do use high VG (but I thin it, often to the point where you'd likely think it was PG), and when I'm not vaping, I'm not vaping, when I am vaping, I'm chain vaping. I have zero tolerance for any dry hits, and with the above wisdom I had to vape my geny units at 3-4 o clock for them to keep up with me, which I likewise just don't want to deal with or think about

I believe it fails to take into account a few other variables, and I honestly don't know what they are, but I will guess a bit

-capillary action brings the juice up to the coil, but so does the heat and pressure (volcanic action if you will, not my term) through the open hole of the wick

-tanks need to breathe

-juice doesn't like to squeeze through a really tight space

-thicker juice does better with a bit more breathing room within the wick, I found this to be true even with silica (my frayed wicks used to work better than plump, new wicks)

-immediate juice recovery/capacity right in the area of the coil is just as important, if not more important, than the velocity with which a droplet can travel from the base of the tank all the way up to the coil. A larger hole mesh with more open space in the center channel may actually allow a fatter glob of juice to hang out in the area of the heating action. This could be total BS. lol.

Anyway, I was crying to mwa and he had me set my wicks up with 2-3 full turns of mesh maximum, with a giant open center hole, and bang; chain vaping at 5-6 O clock, or anywhere really, explosive flavor and zero dry hits. This even worked on my bottom coil (Gtank).

I also really love the double wick set up, though I haven't decided yet if it actually makes things better, I'm still playing with it. Theoretically, like he said earlier, it should, because you're getting capillary action within the wicks, at the wick-wick interface, and volcanic action up the center hole, with more breathing room then a single denser wick.

I also think a large wick hole is key. I even pulled the PTFE insulator out of my other unit to get a 3mm hole, closer to, but not quite as big as the 3.5mm DID hole

Anyway that's what's working for me. I will continue to play with it. Now that I have 270 going in the DID mwa style I'll probably make a super dense wick with minimal center hole for comparison.

I also don't believe the idea that lower mesh # = increased throat hit and decreased favor, not the case for me at all.

Bottom line is, what is at first glance theoretically sound doesn't always translate into real world results. When something works, DON'T TOUCH IT. The most important things all else aside, are making sure you have no shorts, and vaping the hell out of your DID so the wick breaks in properly, everything else will fall into place

EDIT: Another thing I've been thinking about related to the 2 wrap working so well for some people. SS can suck up a load of heat, so if you're heating area is spread out over a large space, you have X watts going through more mesh, and the mesh is rob more of your heat.

If you have X watts going through a smaller area of mesh (e.g. 2 wrap), the generated heat is able to outpace the ability of the SS to steal your thunder, and you get better vapor and flavor. Also, maybe the surrounding juice (above and below the coil) are able to more rapidly fill in that tiny space of coil-wick area and wicking improves...
 
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The center hole on the did allows air into the tank and equalizes pressure. I never leave my filler screw out so there is no other way to get air into my reservoir because I make wicks that are a snug fit. I used to wrap mine around the Allen key and then roll it tighter, this gave me a huge center hole. Now I wrap around a heavy duty paperclip the center hole is smaller but there is more wick material. With the 270 mesh the wicking is superb I can't get my did to dry burn if there is any juice in the tank.when I have my clear tank on I can actually see the air bubbles come out of the bottom of the wick.
DID Question

What if any thing does the size of the center hole in the SS mesh wick make? humm!! let me rephrase that :)

Does the size of hole in the center of the wick mater? if so why?
 

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Cholo's Follow-up Vid on his Setup.

Seems he made a 4/5 wrap going clockwise with minimal space between coils.

4.1volts on 1.6ohms


The 2 center coils have a problem they are not heating up they are still shiny. So he is actually running a 3 coil system. This will explain his low ohms. There I am trying to wrap pretty coils and here is an ugly wrap putting out a smokestack.
 

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The 2 center coils have a problem they are not heating up they are still shiny. So he is actually running a 3 coil system. This will explain his low ohms. There I am trying to wrap pretty coils and here is an ugly wrap putting out a smokestack.

Now the equation is: "The uglier the better" :D
 
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