New Genesis type atomizer by DID!
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I can clearly see why
What? If I may ask did you use to take these stunning shots with?
Nice Job
Thanks Oly,
Tha camera is just my canon IXUS 80is, my DSLRs would be overkill for an image destined for the web at 800pixels high.
Open shade, natural light & a steady hand is the key not the camera, as Rick showed you can take stunning shots with an IPhone if you keep the scene contrast within the dynamic range of the cameras sensor and keep it held steady.
You shower with THAT view???? Oh My Greatgrandmother! I am positively absolutely jealous!
Also the wick has a small dia so same wrap less resistance.
Gemini wins hands down. But I here the d16 is the best.
Tony
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I totally agree! They both fit my vaping needs and it's, like you say, nice to switch as needed.That's what I thought. Its very nice to be able to switch between both. Sometimes I want the smooth vape of the DID and other times the violent vape of the Gemini. I wonder if the Temon is kinda in between both. If it is I guess I have another purchase coming soon.
The Temon is on the top of my priority list too, and I'm hoping the Temon with the Gemini type tank (apollo?) will be available when I go shopping. I'll be the customer line right along beside you somewhere. (will be hard to spot, through the clouds, but there I'll be).
But, I know how you feel! Even though it's become old hat to me, there are times when I'm jealous of me! The cloud plays, the hawks soaring by, .... endless wonders. Course, it could just be the soap in my eyes.... I've heard that too, and will join the experimenters some time this year, to see. I'll race ya to the top of the priority list.Also the wick has a small dia so same wrap less resistance.
Gemini wins hands down. But I here the d16 is the best.
Tony
I hope I come back as an owl. I live in the tree.
Tony
Peeping Owls!! :::: must remember to take waterproof pv to the shower from now on for good cloud cover::::
If you like helping people, please read carefully:
I entered a vape shop in OKC - good shop, knowledgeable folks. Got some great products for myself.
Was standing in line for the pros at the desk, standing next to a working black man, pants and shirt covered in street paint, checking out HIS options to get off corporate share-holder killer sticks(the Philip-Morris cigs that get handed-out free in 3rd world countries just to start their addiction. I have a friend from Kuwait who told me how PM used to hand out FREE cartons in the Middle East and Africa!!!)
Now sitting here enjoying my VW device with premium e-juice, having spent EASILY $800 in the last month to find a good device that vapes well, a good carto from a world of crap cartos, a tank that doesn't melt from my juice flavor and doesn't cost $60 a piece, wondering how that public slave is faring in his curiosity to end his remote connection to the corporate share-holder bastarz destroying his health !!!
I had walked in that shop on one day, was there 45 minutes, and met him AGAIN during a 30 minute visit 1 week later. That man had bought his starting equipment and was back for new juice and whatever possible upgrades he could afford for hardware. We met twice during a random 30 minute interval 1 week apart, if that means anything to you.
Could we possibly create the STICKY of ALL ULTIMATE STICKY'S at the top of the forum that would give SOLID advice for POOR PEOPLE???
I mean people who want to quit destroying their health and currently afford 1/2 pack per day ($25/ week). People who don't have disposable income to buy one device that fails, one that stinks, cartos/clearos that burn after 5 hits, and various crap that people want to sell that really aren't conducive to an enjoyable QUITTING CIGS experience.
I'm in a slightly better financial position: I've had throw-away income to buy devices that don't vapor enough, clearo's that require massive suction action and frequent cleaning and offer the really pleasurable burnt-wick taste, am currently using tanks that occasionally leak with cartos that flood or burn 50% of the time(am sucking a brand new Smok(whatever a Smok is) carto that's flooding after 5 minutes use with a PREMIUM juice), and have a little more money to burn to upgrade to finally find shlit that actually works for ME, having already spent $800 bucks(fixing to throw down another $500 and ready to go back to cigs if shlit doesn't start working right. I've been vaping FOR 2 MONTHS @ $1300).
Can we work together and make a real flucking advice column that can advise people who don't HAVE $1000 to slam down on failed crap before they find something that helps kick the soul-less corporate stock-holder cancer-stick habit ????????? Can we POST that PERMANENTLY at the TOP of the BIGGEST E-CIG FORUM IN THE WORLD???
(Excuse me, I have to go throw another brand new flucking Smok carto away with my tank of premium juice)
This sticky of all sticky's would need to contain DEFINITE no-bullshlit answers from LONG-EXPERIENCED NON-SUPPLIERS who have REAL answers and HEART-FELT suggestions for the NON LEISURE-CLASS(those of us who don't sip champagne on the Saturday yacht).
Initally, I'm looking for a list of serious members and their initial advice on even building such a POST. I'm not looking to build a thread 1400 pages long !
There should be some scientific way to make recommendations:
1) what was your cig usage when you started vaping
2) what was your starting device? How happy were you with it? Did you quit smoking? How soon did you upgrade/quit altogether?
3) how many combinations of hardware did you try? What was the best? Why was it the best?
4) what is the most economic combination, in your opinion?
Let's make this sincere, without fear of offending the dealers on this forum. They've all entered the market assuming the risk of winning or losing.
And I don't want any of this bullshlit "well, you see "friend" it's ALL "subjective", and blah, blah, blah". It's not ALL subjective ! Juice flavor is subjective ! Amount of vapor and throat hit are somewhat subjective. Hardware and crap that fails 50% of the time are NOT subjective.
It would be well worth MANY PEOPLE'S TIME AND HARD-EARNED MONEY if we took a little time to do this right. EMPIRICAL would be best.
I posted this on the vets page, but please send me a Personal Message if you have useful input. thnx
Thanks for the sincere and knowledgeable people willing to spend a few days thinking seriously about this only.
I entered a vape shop in OKC - good shop, knowledgeable folks. Got some great products for myself.
Was standing in line for the pros at the desk, standing next to a working black man, pants and shirt covered in street paint, checking out HIS options to get off corporate share-holder killer sticks(the Philip-Morris cigs that get handed-out free in 3rd world countries just to start their addiction. I have a friend from Kuwait who told me how PM used to hand out FREE cartons in the Middle East and Africa!!!)
Now sitting here enjoying my VW device with premium e-juice, having spent EASILY $800 in the last month to find a good device that vapes well, a good carto from a world of crap cartos, a tank that doesn't melt from my juice flavor and doesn't cost $60 a piece, wondering how that public slave is faring in his curiosity to end his remote connection to the corporate share-holder bastarz destroying his health !!!
I had walked in that shop on one day, was there 45 minutes, and met him AGAIN during a 30 minute visit 1 week later. That man had bought his starting equipment and was back for new juice and whatever possible upgrades he could afford for hardware. We met twice during a random 30 minute interval 1 week apart, if that means anything to you.
Could we possibly create the STICKY of ALL ULTIMATE STICKY'S at the top of the forum that would give SOLID advice for POOR PEOPLE???
I mean people who want to quit destroying their health and currently afford 1/2 pack per day ($25/ week). People who don't have disposable income to buy one device that fails, one that stinks, cartos/clearos that burn after 5 hits, and various crap that people want to sell that really aren't conducive to an enjoyable QUITTING CIGS experience.
I'm in a slightly better financial position: I've had throw-away income to buy devices that don't vapor enough, clearo's that require massive suction action and frequent cleaning and offer the really pleasurable burnt-wick taste, am currently using tanks that occasionally leak with cartos that flood or burn 50% of the time(am sucking a brand new Smok(whatever a Smok is) carto that's flooding after 5 minutes use with a PREMIUM juice), and have a little more money to burn to upgrade to finally find shlit that actually works for ME, having already spent $800 bucks(fixing to throw down another $500 and ready to go back to cigs if shlit doesn't start working right. I've been vaping FOR 2 MONTHS @ $1300).
Can we work together and make a real flucking advice column that can advise people who don't HAVE $1000 to slam down on failed crap before they find something that helps kick the soul-less corporate stock-holder cancer-stick habit ????????? Can we POST that PERMANENTLY at the TOP of the BIGGEST E-CIG FORUM IN THE WORLD???
(Excuse me, I have to go throw another brand new flucking Smok carto away with my tank of premium juice)
This sticky of all sticky's would need to contain DEFINITE no-bullshlit answers from LONG-EXPERIENCED NON-SUPPLIERS who have REAL answers and HEART-FELT suggestions for the NON LEISURE-CLASS(those of us who don't sip champagne on the Saturday yacht).
Initally, I'm looking for a list of serious members and their initial advice on even building such a POST. I'm not looking to build a thread 1400 pages long !
There should be some scientific way to make recommendations:
1) what was your cig usage when you started vaping
2) what was your starting device? How happy were you with it? Did you quit smoking? How soon did you upgrade/quit altogether?
3) how many combinations of hardware did you try? What was the best? Why was it the best?
4) what is the most economic combination, in your opinion?
Let's make this sincere, without fear of offending the dealers on this forum. They've all entered the market assuming the risk of winning or losing.
And I don't want any of this bullshlit "well, you see "friend" it's ALL "subjective", and blah, blah, blah". It's not ALL subjective ! Juice flavor is subjective ! Amount of vapor and throat hit are somewhat subjective. Hardware and crap that fails 50% of the time are NOT subjective.
It would be well worth MANY PEOPLE'S TIME AND HARD-EARNED MONEY if we took a little time to do this right. EMPIRICAL would be best.
I posted this on the vets page, but please send me a Personal Message if you have useful input. thnx
Thanks for the sincere and knowledgeable people willing to spend a few days thinking seriously about this only.
Funny but not funny. I tell people all the time to get a did. Now a Gemini and poldiac. They don't believe me. Rather buy the stuff the the 3 big reviewers push. I even told Grimgreen the other day why to to recommend this crap. People want cheep and easy to get. I'm sure if Jim fronts me 100 devices I could sell them out of me house. I've given up on the general population. Shoot look how the us just re elected. I just raise my kids right. That all you can do. It's all about marketing. Look at the temon review. I like Scott but what a disservice he did using old batteries and setting up the temon atty with a 1,6 ohm coil. If he did it with a 3/2 30 gauge and new batteries. They way it should be he would of gave a good review. Note for Jim. Personally quality control your products and it set up and fresh battery if sending for review. It's a war and you need to win.
Lastly the younger group is looking for style more the function. Look at the I hybrid. Jim stuff is more for smokers who don't want to kill themselves. Maybe I speaking for myself here but I want something reliable and gives constant results. The did did now the poldiac icing on the cake.
Just an old mans opinion
Put a link here to it. I'll give you what you want.
Tony
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I feel likewise, Tony. The DID series is the only delivery system that is consistent for me. (each DID delivers differently too, which is also a nice bonus throughout the day). But, they are too complex for the beginner to learn, also too expensive. The beginner is still purchasing smokes too. Ouch! So, I share my old eGo kits and Volt kit, and hope and pray they don't get a dry hit before they're enjoying the overall experience. Beginners need plug and play, or .... a nice place to go to for hand's on instructions, like a vape shop that knows what they're doing and can teach the ropes (coils), and troubleshoot problems.
It used to be easy, starting out... eGo with carts... sometimes the filler fluff was great, sometimes it wouldn't absorb, but they were always easy to top off or change out. Today we have the Kanger MT3 or whatever it's called, that seems to be doing well most of the time. Do we suggest those? I do recommend the eGo Twist, it's a nice little pv and the Mini DID fits it very nicely!
I would so love to be able to send newbies to the vapeshop in town, in every town, where they can learn how to oxidize and coil a nice RBA like the DID series. Where they would troubleshoot any problems. Life would be sweet for everyone.
It used to be easy, starting out... eGo with carts... sometimes the filler fluff was great, sometimes it wouldn't absorb, but they were always easy to top off or change out. Today we have the Kanger MT3 or whatever it's called, that seems to be doing well most of the time. Do we suggest those? I do recommend the eGo Twist, it's a nice little pv and the Mini DID fits it very nicely!
I would so love to be able to send newbies to the vapeshop in town, in every town, where they can learn how to oxidize and coil a nice RBA like the DID series. Where they would troubleshoot any problems. Life would be sweet for everyone.
Before calling people's honest advice B.S. (and yes I believe that shy a few "shills" ECF members really try to be honest and helpful) put your request in real-life context. In many cases price goes up when quality goes up. Whether it's cars or houses or brands of cigarettes or vaping gear. I know plenty of folks who smoke generic cigs and asked if it's because they taste the best the answer is always, "no, they're cheap". Vaping is no different. And unfortunately from an economics perspective a high end vendor will not survive by giving away their profits.
That being said, there are plenty of economical decent quality products available. Over the holidays I set my nephew up with a Vamo ($40 on sale), a couple Vivi Novas (~$20 for both) and ~120ml juice (~$40 - all for less than the cost of 2 cartons of smokes...). It's a super easy to use kit, adjustable to personal vaping preference and with a little TLC/maintenance will last a good long time. Is it a top of the line setup? No, but it is good enough to get him started. For at least the next few months all he needs to buy is more juice (~$1/day or ~$0.50/day if he wanted to DIY).
I understand your frustration and applaud your intent but don't think this is an appropriate thread for this type of discussion.
Edit: wanted to add that if you get a proper thread started, I'm sure there are a lot of us here that will help with content/advice.
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I am not sure that this thread is the right place for this post.
However, I agree with you that people could be better educated in the world of vaping. I do not have a lot of money, better yet I am actually flat broke and still live with my ex 3 years after she broke up with me just because I cannot find an affordable place to live outside the social housing plan that has like a 7 year waiting list. If I had known about how satisfying the DID would be right of the start I would have saved a lot of money, then again for people that do not have a lot of money Jim's products may not be the thing they look at. Why would someone spend 90 euro on an atomizer if they can buy 5 for 2 bucks? I totally get that frame of mind.
But I think this is true for a lot of things in life, We have a saying in Dutch "goedkoop is duurkoop" meaning that buying cheap can be expensive in the end. Not just for e-cig things but basically for everything in life. You just need common sense and do some product research before you purchase anything.
Now back to why I think this thread is not the place for a post like this, you don't have to convince the "poor" people in this thread about this fact, there is a reason they are already here. As for the people that do have a disposable income, you don't have to convince them either, they are already here.
just my 2 cents.
Last statement I leave it alone. Carton of smokes 120 if your lucky One week. Gemini and poldiac 300. Lasts forever. It's all in the head. No way is vaping close to expensive compared to smoking.
They say I don't have the money, but buy a 6 bucks a day pack of cigs.
I was using the carts on cheep stuff for 2 years still needed to smoke buying 30 a week in cigs plus the vape stuff. Got my did last July haven't bought a red since. Trust me I have way more beer money. hence the little belly I'm getting.
Tony
They say I don't have the money, but buy a 6 bucks a day pack of cigs.
I was using the carts on cheep stuff for 2 years still needed to smoke buying 30 a week in cigs plus the vape stuff. Got my did last July haven't bought a red since. Trust me I have way more beer money.
hence the little belly I'm getting. Tony
:::raises hand::::
I'm on the poor side of the working class people, too. Our funds go to feeding critters and helping out others in even tighter shoes than ours. Hubby got me my Christmas Poldiac in January. He was on high alert to save for the Poldiac since months and months ago, and still he had to wait until this month to have all the funds together in one lump sum, and even then, he had to juggle bills around, as usual. Was it worth it? DANG RIGHT IT WAS WORTH IT!!! The Poldiac excels in every way. It's a masterpiece. Today, hubby goes in for a work physcial, and if he fails it, he will have to retire early. (he's been facing heart problems). He insisted that I get my Poldiac NOW, or it might be a year or two, if ever, wait. He doesn't vape, but he's as wild about the Poldiac as I am! He loves it and is so happy he got it for me. One doesn't have to be rich, in order to enjoy the rich pleasures in life.
I'm on the poor side of the working class people, too. Our funds go to feeding critters and helping out others in even tighter shoes than ours. Hubby got me my Christmas Poldiac in January. He was on high alert to save for the Poldiac since months and months ago, and still he had to wait until this month to have all the funds together in one lump sum, and even then, he had to juggle bills around, as usual. Was it worth it? DANG RIGHT IT WAS WORTH IT!!! The Poldiac excels in every way. It's a masterpiece. Today, hubby goes in for a work physcial, and if he fails it, he will have to retire early. (he's been facing heart problems). He insisted that I get my Poldiac NOW, or it might be a year or two, if ever, wait. He doesn't vape, but he's as wild about the Poldiac as I am! He loves it and is so happy he got it for me. One doesn't have to be rich, in order to enjoy the rich pleasures in life.
I have no idea why that rant was posted here. Must have been a mistake. I only have this to add. I don't even know what cigs cost anymore but I'd have to guess that, on average, people spend about $40-$50 a week? This, I can't afford a quality PV stuff drives me crazy. People go and buy the cheap junk and then, four weeks later, they buy more cheap junk and so on. Buying a quality device ALWAYS costs less in the long run! In January 2010 I bought a Provari. I still own it and it works just fine. That's three years of no hassle vaping. How many of those cheap knock-offs will still be working in six months, never mind three years!!! Penny wise, dollar foolish!
I must agree Tony.
I don't like to post less than favorable comment unless I think it's a necessary.
Here I thought it was.
My wife thinks it's a easy switch as well, (for real) u may of had debris in there...lmao
Bad call using a 3 year old battery, "surprised"
@6:30 Why is it many think it's better than the Mini & Short? doesn't sound like you tried the others for months.
Question your descriptive & unbiased opinions Scott. U may of been in a hurry.
If I may, A little constructive criticism.
RnMreviews +others seems 2 take a bit more time and doesn't do reviews like a hurry up production line...Imho
Thanks
When people are spending good amounts of money, reviews shouldn't be a hurry up production line. And that's what it looked like to me...Imho View attachment 171395
Bummers, that is a shame. Overall, though, he did like it, but the 14*** size just isn't his cuppa-tea, so he wasn't enthused from the beginning. (which is a shame). He was able to do a work around with the spring, which he felt was too stiff. That's good to know, that it's tweakable. I left a comment too, just now. I wonder if Jim will carry various sized/stiffness springs for it in the future?
Nice! I'm a straight shooter too. To many people only want to hear what that want to hear. That's why I have few friends. I'm a tough love guy. I'm honest when I look in the mirror and honest when I look at you.
that was one of his worst reviews. But overall he does a good job. You see how Scott always uses his provari. That says a lot for the provari. Never see him with the other junk Unless he is reviewing it i commented to rw about that. I wouldn't be surprised when rw does his other rba reviews you find him with the poldiac most of the time.
That's how I see what ones are good. I shut the sound off. I was real close to getting a provari. I even posted it on my Xmas list last aug. but the did changed my mind and we begged Jim to the poldiac. Best decision I ever made. The provari is the only vv I would ever consider. Not needed now. IMO
Tony
You ever need any juice you just let me know. I have no flavor or my chicken flavor. Just pm me a you will get some. ASAP
Tony
Hi there!
I agree with you Dontburnit
I think alpha mods have a good border compairing this 2 vaping investments!
I agree with you Dontburnit
I think alpha mods have a good border compairing this 2 vaping investments!
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