New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[Striker911]

I hate to be the only person saying anything on the negative side here but Im a Electrical Engineer that works with tiny circuits, soldering, bilding chipsets, and repairing laptops for a living for Hewlett Packard, never in my life has something gave me so much of a issue. If someone can PM me or in somme way help me get to a point where more than just the top coil glows and I actually taste my juice just 1 time and not unflavored 50/50 nic juice Im more than willing to listen and get this thing going.....otherwise...I feel this thing is going to be in the classies VERY Very soon, 38 coils later wrapped every way they possibly can be wrapped for the amount of wick their is to work with and still nada,zilch, ZERO. Top coil is the ONLY one even remotely glowing. I've watched ALL the vids, looked at ALL the pics, Im as patient as a oyster but this thing has got me FLUSTERED !!!!!

Your not alone. I have had every problem imaginable. With just the top glowing you have a short at the top. You have to put some slack in the wire before you make it tight so it wont pull the wire into the wick causing it to cut into the oxidation. If you are sure thats not the issue then make sure the wire is not to far from the wick. If you have a long straight run it will tend to glow first. The only thing the wick should be is a straw for the juice. Cant wrap it to tight or to loose. Sure you know all this though. Its hard to get it down pat. Did you try that Sdan technique? The one where he wrapped the coil around the paper without it being in the atty? Cant wait to try that. Wonder why no one thought of that first. Reason I say it looks like the best way is cause you have less chance or cutting into the oxidation and making a nice straight coil.

I am having issues also but I am going to wait till my PV gets here (2 or 3 more days) that way I can rule that part out. I am having PV issues so I just let the DID sit on the desk for now. Mine just seems like it wants more power. When I turn my PV up it get hot cause the internals are not able to push the power it needs. My PV is a $12 home made jobby. Cant push dcc's with it, or anything low res for that matter. I hope you get it.

 

[VAPNJ350]

I hope this doesn't come across as insulting but if you're and Engineer, as am I, then you should understand what a hot "top coil" is telling you. Isolate your whole wick and spread the tension evenly. I would say your shorting at the second turn on the coil straight to the wick. This is one of those reason why you need to fold the edges on your ss mesh. When you cut the mesh to size you get little ss hairs that will cause shorting.

Be patient as I even ran through my entire supplied heat wire. Thankfully I purchased a roll off ebay first. My problem was that I isolated the wick from the walls and wick of the DID but didn't even think about the bottom of the tank. The wicks frayed ends were touching the stainless steel bottom and shorting the loop to cause random burn outs and hot spots. Once I backed the wick a few mm away from the bottom and started folding two edges... everything worked perfect. Also, you can see about 1/10th of a mm between the inside of my coil and the wick. It may not even be touching the wick. It works perfect.

Anyway... just remember to isolate the wick completely with oxidization and positioning and get the the coil to almost float around the wick.

Insulting.....not at all, but now I think you know my frustration as I've done the folding of edges, I've isolated the wick to a almost overwhelming degree. a SHORT anywhere is the very last thing I should be getting. The wick is super oxidized. I've ran tight coils, lose coils, floating coils, 2 coils, 7 cols, and every number in between, I've done every trick in every video and even some of my own I've learned over the years that aren't mentioned.....same outcome. I even keep the bottom of the wick from even touching the inside bottom tank. Theirs got to be something somewhere Im just not seeing. ERRRRRRRRRR!

 

[VAPNJ350]

Maybe this will help. I never have problems doing it the way Zen does it, but this seems to help lots of people with coils.

watched it....done it ........doing it......Nada, ...no flavor, only top coil glowing...it's wicking like a champ, no problem wicking in the least...almost too much, but everything else...ooooo00000OOOOOOO00000oooooo

 

[elfstone]

watched it....done it ........doing it......Nada, ...no flavor, only top coil glowing...it's wicking like a champ, no problem wicking in the least...almost too much, but everything else...ooooo00000OOOOOOO00000oooooo

NO coil should be glowing when the wick is wet. Do a dry burn first (tank empty) and see if all wraps are glowing equally. If not, there is a short. This the step where I still go mad trying to fix it, yet the cigarette paper helped me a lot.

IF all coils glow equally, squirt PG and fully douse the wick. Do all the coil extinguish fairly at the same time? If not there is a short / hotspot.

I haven't used this DID before, so I don't exactly know how it works but, supposing there are no shorts (which still remains the most likely thing):

- if there is too much space between the top coil and the wick as it sometimes tends to happen, it will glow in air instead of vaporizing juice

- if there is too much tension in the top lead, that always seems to cause hotspots

- try to keep the PV tipped downwards so the bottom is at 2 o'clock as it were, a least in the beginning

That's all I can contribute with my 1 week experience...

Hope you'll get it working!

 

[c623cc]

I have still NOT received my DID yet, Order ID: #341, It has been in NYC since the 14th, and I just want it!!! I live in Upstate NY, and it is only 3 hours away from me, and I can not get any answers from USPS, I am just confused!!!!!!!!!!

I would wager that something is possibly wrong at the NY post office(always have a looong wait anytime anything goes through there) and sincerely hope that this is a very isolated case because I just ordered one on Monday.The way I understood it was you ordered one week and it shipped the next week but,I could be completely wrong.I know to this point all I have gotten was my paypal receipt showing that I paid and hopefully I get another email stating it has been shipped early next week.Anyway Good Luck and the owner seems to be fairly active on the forums and he will probably sort it out for you.

 

[grabeard]

You can send it to me and I will make a wick and coil or 2 or 3 and send it back. Once you can actually see it in hand, you will see what you have been doing wrong. That's what I had to do on my first one. Once I actually saw it I felt a little stupid. Not volunteering for mass production, but it is really easy and we can all pay it forward.

I hate to be the only person saying anything on the negative side here but Im a Electrical Engineer that works with tiny circuits, soldering, bilding chipsets, and repairing laptops for a living for Hewlett Packard, never in my life has something gave me so much of a issue. If someone can PM me or in somme way help me get to a point where more than just the top coil glows and I actually taste my juice just 1 time and not unflavored 50/50 nic juice Im more than willing to listen and get this thing going.....otherwise...I feel this thing is going to be in the classies VERY Very soon, 38 coils later wrapped every way they possibly can be wrapped for the amount of wick their is to work with and still nada,zilch, ZERO. Top coil is the ONLY one even remotely glowing. I've watched ALL the vids, looked at ALL the pics, Im as patient as a oyster but this thing has got me FLUSTERED !!!!!

 

[VAPNJ350]

Soooooooo..... just ""DiD"" the rollin' paper trick .....and holy glowing "coils" ...yes plural, all the coils are now glowing extremely even. BUT STILL NOTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A JUICE FLAVOR. Still just unflavored nic taste. This is really becoming redundantly dumb. 30mL of juice now and haven't got to enjoy 1 tasty vapor hit. For the love of all that is holy and decent I just want to vape this thing to it's claimed potential. I have to admit tho......this thing to be so small...it's straight kickin' my 6'6" 2285 lb. A55 !!!! I can't help but laugh a little. lollllolololololololololoolololoolololololololoolloloooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllloloololololololloololololololoololoolololoolooloololoolololololololooololololoololoololololooloololololoololololoolololoolololooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllloloolooloolololoololololol!!!!!!!!

Not really !! lol

 

[grabeard]

Have to ask, did you accidently forget to add your flavor to what you vaping? Fill with wrong bottle?

Soooooooo..... just ""DiD"" the rollin' paper trick .....and holy glowing "coils" ...yes plural, all the coils are now glowing extremely even. BUT STILL NOTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A JUICE FLAVOR. Still just unflavored nic taste. This is really becoming redundantly dumb. 30mL of juice now and haven't got to enjoy 1 tasty vapor hit. For the love of all that is holy and decent I just want to vape this thing to it's claimed potential. I have to admit tho......this thing to be so small...it's straight kickin' my 6'6" 2285 lb. A55 !!!! I can't help but laugh a little. lollllolololololololololoolololoolololololololoolloloooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllloloololololololloololololololoololoolololoolooloololoolololololololooololololoololoololololooloololololoololololoolololoolololooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllloloolooloolololoololololol!!!!!!!!

Not really !! lol

 

[Monoxxide]

(tank empty) !

Thats very important when do that papertrick, i did try it with a full tank...wat do i know im new to this lol.
With a full tank and paper it does get pretty messy and your paper wont burn off evenly creating shorts just about everywhere.
Guess there are more new people who just try the paper thing after their first wett try on a full tank.
So be sure you empty your tank to give it a decent dryburn with that trick.
Works like a charm now for me, hope everyone figures it out.
Had a 0.9 coil (3wraps), a 1.5 (4 wraps) and a 2.5 (5 wraps), not sure yet wich i like most but i got enough kantal (30 meters lol) to play with it a bit.
Its very satisfying to see it working after the few first messups.

 

[TheRem]

I've heard that a 4.5ml DC Tank fits EXACTLY the DID!

 

[KickServe]

Soooooooo..... just ""DiD"" the rollin' paper trick .....and holy glowing "coils" ...yes plural, all the coils are now glowing extremely even. BUT STILL NOTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A JUICE FLAVOR. Still just unflavored nic taste. This is really becoming redundantly dumb. 30mL of juice now and haven't got to enjoy 1 tasty vapor hit. For the love of all that is holy and decent I just want to vape this thing to it's claimed potential. I have to admit tho......this thing to be so small...it's straight kickin' my 6'6" 2285 lb. A55 !!!! I can't help but laugh a little. lollllolololololololololoolololoolololololololoolloloooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllloloololololololloololololololoololoolololoolooloololoolololololololooololololoololoololololooloololololoololololoolololoolololooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllloloolooloolololoololololol!!!!!!!!

Not really !! lol

May I ask what juice you are using and what device you are using to power the DiD?

 

[KickServe]

I've heard that a 4.5ml DC Tank fits EXACTLY the DID!

Just checked. Not unless you cut the tube of the DCT. It's a bit too long. The inside diameter might match, didn't measure it. So do you know of a method to cut this thing?

 

[outadadark]

I too (three??) am an Engineer, which has absolutely nothing to do with it !!! The basis of your problem starts and ends with your WICK !!!!

Bear with me now:
1. Imagine you had a plastic wick to wind your coil around, would it matter if said wick touched the atty body? No
Why? Because your wick would be totally INSULATED from the body by the nature of it's inherent insulation props.

So oxidising your wick well is paramount. If you have to suspend it with your coil so it doesn't touch the body, It's NOT INSULATED properly. (Do Jim or Scott carefully suspend their wicks in the wick hole???........)

2. Your coil is SUPPOSED to glow when DRY BURNING (see the Rizla paper method. Also remember when you coiled over Silica strands? The WHOLE coil glowed until you dripped juice onto it and it conditioned over time..... ) Short bursts on your fire button whilst wetting the coil beds the coil in, turning it black and it will NOT glow as long as there is juice being fed from the tank through the wick.

I personally skip the dry burning stage and soak my coil from the start, and look for glow spots and fiddle (I think that's the technical term with the coil until the glow goes.

3. Having said ALL that, if anyone wants to get rid of their infuriatingly simple devices that refuse to play ball and just WORK, I am running a DID Depository, committed to finding new homes for neglected DIDs, the world over.
Just ring 1-800-SAVE MY DID and you'll receive instructions to finding a brand new home for your unwanted incredibly simple reliable DID.

 

[kurtus]

Just checked. Not unless you cut the tube of the DCT. It's a bit too long. The inside diameter might match, didn't measure it. So do you know of a method to cut this thing?

Put a socket on the inside of the tube to stop from crushing it then use a pipe cutter for copper tubing. Works great but if you want to keep it clean and not scratched up I use a little bit of electrical tape where the tube cutter roller roles around the tank.

 

[VAPNJ350]

Have to ask, did you accidently forget to add your flavor to what you vaping? Fill with wrong bottle?

I've tried a few different juices in it now....My personal RY4 mix at Gourmet Vapor (triple flavor, 60PG, 12mg), now I have the absolute best butterscotch that is by far the most accurate "SPOT ON" flavor of butterscotch I have EVER tasted,(honestly as good as if not better than the nestle butterscotch chips) so much flavor it's insane and I wonder how he mixed it and what flavor he used from viginaia custom blends.com, Ray can mix some awesome juices(triple 5) sooo good. I tried my own mixes in it also that are packed full of flavor. Nothing seems to shine in this thing...but any and every other carto(even flavorless Smoktech's) do a great job of re-producing the flavors I vape, not like the BOGE fusions do, but enough to use them from time to time. The flavor comes from the wick I just don't get how these wicks aren't picking it up, I've followed directions to the letter making my wicks.

 

[outadadark]

Flavour (UK spelling comes from the wattage (heat, not voltage ) the juice is heated at. There seems to be a sweet spot for all juices, not necessarily the same for all juices (dah... PG/VG makeup, flavouring (UK spelling , etc.)

Trying a VV sometimes helps.... alternatively, years of analog (US spelling abuse can kill tastebuds. I understand reactivativing them starts with Jalapeno peppers...

 

[VAPNJ350]

May I ask what juice you are using and what device you are using to power the DiD?

Far as juices...previous page 2nd to last post I think, (a few diff), device I've tried it on the VMAX @ 3-4.5V....LT 1.5@3.5-4.5V....LT2.0 (4 amp) @ 3-4.5V.....Bolt ...Fresh charged Panasonic NCR 18650, CGR CH, and AW ICR 3100mAh, AW IMR 2000mAh. Pretty sure I covered EVERY scenario with voltage . ....I think???

 

[TheRem]

Just checked. Not unless you cut the tube of the DCT. It's a bit too long. The inside diameter might match, didn't measure it. So do you know of a method to cut this thing?

You don't have to cut the 4.5ml tank, it fits PERFECTLY.

 

[VAPNJ350]

Put a socket on the inside of the tube to stop from crushing it then use a pipe cutter for copper tubing. Works great but if you want to keep it clean and not scratched up I use a little bit of electrical tape where the tube cutter roller roles around the tank.

Inside diameter is too big also, supplid O-rings dont seal....BUT. if you take either 2 drip tip O-rings or 2 inner Orings from the tank and roll them all the way to the bottom it will seal when you put it back together, just test with water and take your time. Best way I've found to cut fragile tubing is get you a straight plum line using electrical tape then with a cutoff wheel on dremel cut the majority up to the line..then place the center of the wheel dead in the middle on the tube and make sure your flat, the wheel should touch all of the tube getting the entire circle flat and smooth up to your tape line. Key is make sure your tape line is even all the way around the tube, this way you don't crack shatter, etc... using pipe cutter. But you can do it.

 

[KickServe]

Far as juices...previous page 2nd to last post I think, (a few diff), device I've tried it on the VMAX @ 3-4.5V....LT 1.5@3.5-4.5V....LT2.0 (4 amp) @ 3-4.5V.....Bolt ...Fresh charged Panasonic NCR 18650, CGR CH, and AW ICR 3100mAh, AW IMR 2000mAh. Pretty sure I covered EVERY scenario with voltage . ....I think???

So pretty sure it's not the device. I have tried it on my lavatube v2 and it works fine. I have been using HH357 atomizers before using DiDs and the flavor I get is slightly less than the HH357s, but that's what I expected. It's still much much better than any carto/clearo things I have tried.

My suggestion would be to get the coils all burning red using the paper method(one ply of a 2-ply facial tissue will work) and then slowly dripping juice and getting them all to not glow.

As long as you have a hot spot(any red glowing coil when wet), you will get a metallic taste and will not get the true taste of the juice. Also I recommend keeping the coils to the 3/4 wrap to get somewhere in the 1.4-1.8 ohm range and use 3.7 V to start with until you get it working.