New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[Trench]

Hey all. I got my glass tanks today and had to unwrap my 1st perfectly good coil. I can;t figure out why, but I have such a difficult time getting all the coils to glow. It's driving me crazy. The wick has been very oxidized. Lost a nut so just wrapping around the post. Any tips?

Same as your Zenesis, k-bro.

Just tweak them around until the "a-hah" moment.

 

[Dougiestyle]

Well,dougie wish you could have gotten it months ago and I would have just driven down and bought the DID from you.I think you are giving up too early but,hey it's your mod and there's cash to be made.I took off the first coil and wick I made like an idiot and had a terrible time getting it back right but,it's all a learning process for me.I can do it now without any fears but,that's after 2 wicks and 5 coils . Perseverance and patience are the key in the "genesis type" for myself.Sorry to write a book but,good luck man!

Thanks, neighbor! I'm sure the DID won't last 24hrs. I'll be OK if the mod doesn't sell. I'll probably use parts of it to make something else lol.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Not a bad idea, but if you get a hot spot near it, wouldn't it exceed that temp? Not to mention, I'd be sorta leery about any possible gases released by the silicone if it got too hot.

Don't have the facts, I've found posts that say internal coil temp ranges anywhere from 275f (wet) to 900f (full red glow) on a dry burn.

 

[K-man]

Same as your Zenesis, k-bro.

Just tweak them around until the "a-hah" moment.

Don't laugh! I've never has to wrap the Zen yet. I fiddle and fiddle and after 20 tries and popped coils the last few days, the only good one was the one I had to take off to put on the new tank.

 

[muddstar]

It is funny though. I got my learning on iatty's and ody's. You can do a Zen with your eyes closed.

Don't laugh! I've never has to wrap the Zen yet. I fiddle and fiddle and after 20 tries and popped coils the last few days, the only good one was the one I had to take off to put on the new tank.

 

[Trench]

Don't laugh! I've never has to wrap the Zen yet. I fiddle and fiddle and after 20 tries and popped coils the last few days, the only good one was the one I had to take off to put on the new tank.

:chuckle:

 

[UnFettered_Soul]

I dropped and lost one of the brass nuts today, lol my 1st day with the DID. Any suggestions for a quick fix? Will any nut that fits do? Or should it be brass as well?

I don't use the nuts at all.
My eyes aren't what they used to be, and it was just easier for me to wrap the wire around the post, 3 or 4 times.
Works just fine for me.

 

[Ezkill]

It is funny though. I got my learning on iatty's and ody's. You can do a Zen with your eyes closed.

I had a learning curve with the Penelope's. Painful. Very little skin left on my fingers.

I'm HOPING that by using all the methods mentioned in this post these won't be as bad to start off with. Oxidize like mad and then use the cigarette paper. Check clearances and cross fingers. I'm really going to put a lot of time into the first wick so I don't have to deal with shorts(hopefully).

 

[muddstar]

Just hang in there, it can be very frustrating, you'll be a pro before you know it. Then you'll be doing all the crazy stuff with wicks,coils,batts and airflow. Painful at times, you'll wish you had some cartos around.

I had a learning curve with the Penelope's. Painful. Very little skin left on my fingers.

I'm HOPING that by using all the methods mentioned in this post these won't be as bad to start off with. Oxidize like mad and then use the cigarette paper. Check clearances and cross fingers. I'm really going to put a lot of time into the first wick so I don't have to deal with shorts(hopefully).

 

[Tonytiger1]

Cheap mans trick. Been wrapping new coils about every 4 days. Been cutting ss every other time and reusing. Yes you need to fill up sooner. But you can get a few extra wraps.

 

[rwechsler]

Ok, sounds good. Ill take your word for it and definitely give it a go with my next setup! I'm really just curious as to why it works better.

Rick,,, what it seems to do for some reason is intensify the flavor for some reason, just try it, I just happened to put the smaller wick into the bigger one, all I can say is my flavor doubled. the inside wick has a very small hole and the two wicks just seem to work super for me, just passing on something I found buddy.

 

[rwechsler]

Wonder if this is something Jim would be able to get in Greece? Do you know if the heat needed for the powdercoat would be below the brass melting point?

Yes, I believe it is. I have a friend (going to west point this year actually) who bought himself a kiln and the ceramic solution and started powdercoating every piece of metal in sight xD

 

[mwa102464]

Rick, its good old capillary action my man, the juice is coming up in two spots, between the two wick and threw the center of the small hole of the inside wick,,,,, I've been experimenting with something else as well that may even be better yet but not ready to disclose yet, just try the MWA Dual Gene Wick please, I think you will like this a LOT

 

[rwechsler]

Rick, its good old capillary action my man, the juice is coming up in two spots, between the two wick and threw the center of the small hole of the inside wick,,,,, I've been experimenting with something else as well that may even be better yet but not ready to disclose yet, just try the MWA Dual Gene Wick please, I think you will like this a LOT

I tried it in my GTUS a couple weeks ago b/c I made my first wick too thin and didn't notice any difference. But with the thicker wick in the DID, maybe it'll be different.

 

[firewalker]

Yes, I believe it is. I have a friend (going to west point this year actually) who bought himself a kiln and the ceramic solution and started powdercoating every piece of metal in sight xD

Maybe you should buy a spare set of nuts, and send them to him with some instructions. Might be on to something here.?

 

[K-man]

I'm wrapping around the centre post without the nuts and the coil keeps popping at the top. Any tips?

 

[elfstone]

Are you using 32 AWG?

It may be because you leave too much space between the last coil and the post or you are tugging on the upper lead to hard or both. Not sure what to advise you - maybe bring the wick a little closer to the post and at the same time make sure there isn't too much tension in the wire... Can you post pics?

 

[K-man]

yes 32. too late for pics but i'll try brining it closer to the post. thanks

 

[rwechsler]

Maybe you should buy a spare set of nuts, and send them to him with some instructions. Might be on to something here.?

Yeah, that'd be wise, just in case they're too soft and melt, but i don't think itll be an issue.

 

[rwechsler]

Figured I'd post some pics of my current DID coil. Right now, it's metering at 0.85Ω, has 3/2 wraps of 30g Kanthal A-1, and uses a 325 mesh wick with a very large hole in the middle with a relatively skinny wick. Vaping it on my polished Precise+18500. Honestly, this current coil wicks better than my Odysseus, and that's not an exaggeration. If I don't keep it vertical, it practically floods it wicks so efficiently. I chain vaped it while holding it vertical for an entire minute and didn't get anything close to a dry hit. I own quite a few genesis atomizers and have owned even more in the past, but this thing wicks like nothing else I've ever tried. Here are the pics.



The DID on my COV Ω meter. If you're having trouble setting up your DID or any other 510 genesis atomizer, I HIGHLY suggest you get one of these from cloudsofvapor.com! What I do is meter my length of R wire with my multi meter to get a control number, screw the atomizer onto the meter, turn it on, wrap my coil, and then right away I know if i have any shorts if I get a number higher than 3-4Ω or lower than 0.5-0.7Ω depending on the number of wraps and gauge of the resistance wire, and if i do, i know instantly whether or not my coil adjustments are doing any good as I make them. This method bypasses any need for the cigarette paper method and also helps you isolate exactly which adjustments provide positive results, which teaches you the proper techniques going forward so you can eliminate the need for the meter at all.



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