New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[rwechsler]

I have my DID bored out to 1/16" as well and I'm REALLY happy with how it performs! Whenever I get a new genesis I always vape a few ml through the coil to break it in and test the draw on the stock cap, and then almost always end up opening it up to 1/16". From there, I either stick with 1/16" or bump it up to 5/64" (which I always do with at least one cap if I can get replacements for that particular device) as I'm a total sucker for vapor production. Where I'm at with the DID currently is that I think I'm going to keep it at 1/16" as the flow dynamics within the vapor chamber are perfectly executed and ultimately increase the vapor production without sacrificing flavor, th, or a tighter draw (which I'm impartial to, but I know it's important to many new genesis adopters).
And while I'm on the topic of flow dynamics, those of you who are just wrapping your wire around the post are severely hindering the DID's performance as any air that enters the vapor chamber and passes over the wick goes straight up into your mouth, rather than being forced around the post, creating a vortex of sorts, and thusly drawing more air over the coil. Not to mention that you'll get a much stronger connection with the nuts, will experience far fewer shorts and hot spots, and will be able to better preserve the linear shape of your wick, thus reducing potential kinks which will severely hinder wicking capabilities.

Followed your advice and took the 1/16 drill bit to one of them. Couldn't find the Titanium at Lowes, but got the Cobalt split point and it worked well - nice and clean.

Initial impressions after trying this on 2 different juices. On a light flavored juice like Malty from BWB, there is a lot of vapor but it makes the flavor more muted. On more sweeter juice like Gorilla juice, it tones down the sweetness like you said. I am still getting used to the airier draw.

 

[KickServe]

And while I'm on the topic of flow dynamics, those of you who are just wrapping your wire around the post are severely hindering the DID's performance as any air that enters the vapor chamber and passes over the wick goes straight up into your mouth, rather than being forced around the post, creating a vortex of sorts, and thusly drawing more air over the coil. Not to mention that you'll get a much stronger connection with the nuts, will experience far fewer shorts and hot spots, and will be able to better preserve the linear shape of your wick, thus reducing potential kinks which will severely hinder wicking capabilities.

The nuts at the top and the taper that slopes into the drip tip seem to be crucial components of the DID design. If you take the drip tip off and look down, you can clearly see how the air is forced around the nut to the driptip rather than straight from the coil. So if you go nut less , it will take away from the DID experience.

Also since there will be more exposed wire that is not in contact with the wet wick, there is a much higher chance of hotspot at the top and chance of overheating this exposed wire taking away the flavor of the juice. So find some nuts...

 

[dspin]

Glad others are posting this now too. While Im at it-again, an insert in the wick hole is not necessary

 

[mwa102464]

OK Rick, I agree with the bigger bottom nut for sure, as for that little meter you talk about on the fly, you have to remove your DID to put it on the meter, all as I do is push the button on my Darwin and have all my readings, and as far as my Fluke meter goes I have to say that they are the finest meters on the market and have to be a bit better then that small $20 box though those surely come in handy for some people to get there readings and probably are very precise as well. 6-12 half a dozen all the same dam thing really, sometimes my $6 meter is all I use and it works fine. I also think you like to vape a bit differently then most and enjoy your 20watts or 7.4v at 1ohm where most don't vape this way, it's whatever works for the individual that is best I think, I enjoy more coil wraps myself and covering more coil area and bumping up the voltage just a bit, again just a personal thing and everyone is different on what they like and is there sweet spot, for me its the 5-6 wrap and around 4.2-4.5 volts but I do have one set up with a 3 wrap and that's good too, it's all good with this vaping monster DID unit the DID just rocks

PS, did you try the Dual Wick yet ?

 

[mwa102464]

I agree Dspin it isn't needed, but it may be a nice option to use to make an try a smaller wick just to see how it works, but I could take it or leave it at this point, my DID's are running so dam good as is I cant stop using both of mine

 

[Bimbo]

Placed an order. Excited to have this. It's my first RBA

 

[rwechsler]

Very well said Mwa. To each his own! And I think another big place where we differ in our vaping styles is that I tend to strictly use mechanical mods (with 2 exceptions, Provari and Orion v2.1) where as you're all about vaping on whatever has the very best electronics in it (DNA!), so that accounts for some of our differences. When I get the parts to build a 2nd DID, i'm going to set it up specifically for use on my Provari with the intention of maximizing flavor rather than throat hit, in which case I'll most likely use the same setup you mentioned, 5-6 wraps at 4.5ish volts (and Ill try your dual wick system as well, which I haven't gotten around to yet). Anyways, I'm just babbling at this point, but the bottom line is that I love my DID and I'm glad others do to!

OK Rick, I agree with the bigger bottom nut for sure, as for that little meter you talk about on the fly, you have to remove your DID to put it on the meter, all as I do is push the button on my Darwin and have all my readings, and as far as my Fluke meter goes I have to say that they are the finest meters on the market and have to be a bit better then that small $20 box though those surely come in handy for some people to get there readings and probably are very precise as well. 6-12 half a dozen all the same dam thing really, sometimes my $6 meter is all I use and it works fine. I also think you like to vape a bit differently then most and enjoy your 20watts or 7.4v at 1ohm where most don't vape this way, it's whatever works for the individual that is best I think, I enjoy more coil wraps myself and covering more coil area and bumping up the voltage just a bit, again just a personal thing and everyone is different on what they like and is there sweet spot, for me its the 5-6 wrap and around 4.2-4.5 volts but I do have one set up with a 3 wrap and that's good too, it's all good with this vaping monster DID unit the DID just rocks

PS, did you try the Dual Wick yet ?

 

[fuzzione]

I think I would have been lost with a mechanical mod and the DID, at least in the beginning. In no small measure my vmax's ohm readout was indispensable for nailing those coils. Adjust, check ohms, repeat. I suspect the Provari and others having this feature are most useful for coil/wick training. I am now a black belt

 

[fuzzione]

Placed an order. Excited to have this. It's my first RBA

Welcome to the DIDhood. Don't forget to include your order number in the free miniDID giveaway in this thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tery-one-mini-did-mmvapors-3.html#post6639313

 

[fuzzione]

Speaking of which, my 2nd vmax arrived today. In SS. This and the DID are simply made for each other...the picture below doesn't do them any justice.

 

[muddstar]

Doing the dual wick on the DID an Z, both awesome. What would be great is 2 dual wicks and 2 coils on the DID.

 

[rwechsler]

Looks awesome fuzzi! Do you have any idea what the current output rating on the Vmax is? I'm trying to find a really solid VV device that'll push out 5A of current. At this point, I think my best bet is to just pay someone to rig up my 2 DNA chips into an all SS box mod that I'd have machined. I like my provari, but 3.5A isn't nearly enough current to run my genis the way I do in mechanical mods. Something capable of pushing 7.4v or more would also be sweet.

 

[fuzzione]

Looks awesome fuzzi! Do you have any idea what the current output rating on the Vmax is? I'm trying to find a really solid VV device that'll push out 5A of current. At this point, I think my best bet is to just pay someone to rig up my 2 DNA chips into an all SS box mod that I'd have machined. I like my provari, but 3.5A isn't nearly enough current to run my genis the way I do in mechanical mods. Something capable of pushing 7.4v or more would also be sweet.

Thanx bud, the vmax is indeed rated at 5a although I believe a prior test on the first vmax version saw something in the high 4's. 4.7 if I recall correctcly. It has a 3-6v range. This might be close to what you're after. There is a fairly comprehensive owners thread here that is full of useful info and many happy vmax owners (many of whom also own a Provari and enjoy both).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...owners-tips-tricks-quirks-78.html#post6641873

The vmax will eat those 5-ohm coils for breakfast, burp and and ask for more

Sorry again for the vmax sidetrack, but the device just looks and works superbly with the DID.

 

[rwechsler]

Word! I've been thinking about getting mine some major modifications to accommodate a setup like this. The mods would include taping a 2nd ground screw and adding a 2nd airhole to the top cap. I think that dual airhole top caps+dual coil/dual wick (literally 2 wicks, not Mwa's method) setups are gna make a rise in the future. I just had a grip of custom top caps made for my Hellfire Mini to experiment with (thank you Urquidezj!!), so if it works well, then maybe we can talk to Jim about making a few special DIDs like that!
Here are some pics of the replacement caps I had made:

Also had one made with a built in mouthpiece that has a HUGE airhole in it and a 5/64" airhole in the cap, which would be a nice accessory for Jim to add to his line of products.

Doing the dual wick on the DID an Z, both awesome. What would be great is 2 dual wicks and 2 coils on the DID.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Holy Moly! My DID done finally arrived (not bad USPS, 13 days to go 93 miles from New York). Took a bit of noddling with the coil to get out the hot spots, but I ended up with 2.9ohm (5/6 wrap)@5.0v. This thing is really as good as everyone says. I'm dizzy at this point and can feel the nic headache coming, but just can't say no...


Hmm, just had an after thought. There's no way I can stealth vape this thing at work...

 

[rwechsler]

That's all I needed to hear, going to buy one now. I don't think it's an issue to talk about other devices in this thread as long as their properly contextualized with the DID in mind. If Jim disagrees, I'll go ahead and remove my posts that refer to other devices

Thanx bud, the vmax is indeed rated at 5a although I believe a prior test on the first vmax version saw something in the high 4's. 4.7 if I recall correctcly. It has a 3-6v range. This might be close to what you're after. There is a fairly comprehensive owners thread here that is full of useful info and many happy vmax owners (many of whom also own a Provari and enjoy both).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...owners-tips-tricks-quirks-78.html#post6641873

The vmax will eat those 5-ohm coils for breakfast, burp and and ask for more

Sorry again for the vmax sidetrack, but the device just looks and works superbly with the DID.

 

[fuzzione]

I dunno, call it a hunch, but I think perhaps rwechsler might be one of those vapers who are a tad more discriminating

 

[rwechsler]

Hehehe, why thank you. I've seen it all at this point and I've come to a point where I have or have had almost every top shelf mod/atomizer in the game, so I know what I like, what I don't, and have started to channel my experience into designing my own atomizers and making relatively considerable modifications to ones I currently own.

I dunno, call it a hunch, but I think perhaps rwechsler might be one of those vapers who are a tad more discriminating

 

[c623cc]

Have to say again could not be happier with my DID Jim.Each and every day it has gotten better and it was almost perfect the very first day!.I made a 2.0 ohm coils the first try and should have just left it alone but,like most of us I wanted to tinker and ended up having to change it.I had some "growing pains" making a new wick and coil but,it was all just me being impatient.If I had just done it correctly and without rushing I would have made it correctly those times as well.I really want to make a higher ohm coil to really use my Buzz at higher voltages but,with the performance I get right now there is no need.

I should have just bought a couple of DID's the first time around.I cannot believe the flavor that comes out of this thing and it gives you the exact same vape every time it is fired.I put a couple of juices in it that I just wan't crazy about because the flavor was muted on any carto(HATE dripping but,necessary at times)and the DID makes them bright and strong flavors since there is no filler to take away from the flavor.I filled it up last night and it used every drop of juice wasting nothing and that saves money in the long run.It also lasted me almost double the amount of time compared to a DCT which shocked me considering I vape all day long.Thanks again Jim!

P.S. To anyone having troubles with the DID just relax and be patient and you will get it right and also the wick in my opinion is the most important thing to get right.It's like building a house and the measurements are off by an inch on the block but,by the time you get to the top of the house it will be off almost a foot.If the wick is not right you are wasting your time going any further.

 

[rwechsler]

P.S. To anyone having troubles with the DID just relax and be patient and you will get it right and also the wick in my opinion is the most important thing to get right.It's like building a house and the measurements are off by an inch on the block but,by the time you get to the top of the house it will be off almost a foot.If the wick is not right you are wasting your time going any further.

Well said.