New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Meant to put this in here a day ago but,for those keeping track my DID was shipped on June 28th and arrived at my home July the 9th and it was in NY postal system for the majority of the time(think it arrived in NY July 1).Hope this helps anyone wanting to know average time from shipment to delivery.Greece to Tennessee.
 

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Order # 934 arrived in NC today. Ordered 6/27, shipped 7/4, arrived NY 7/5. USPS/NY said it was processed on 7/5 but decided to play games with it for 5 more days before sending it on to it's destination.
Then our local carrier decided getting out of the car was too much trouble, so she left a pickup notice in my box instead. Luckily I made it to the Post Office b4 they decided to ship it to Outer Mongolia, or some such place.

Ok, I'll get off the soapbox now.

I got my DiD!!:rickroll:
 

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I would be curious how a top cap would perform if it had numerous very small holes going around the entire top cap about every 1/2" spaced out, this way it would create a swirling effect to the center hole, Rick if you can try this let us know how this works if you can, I mean really small holes and maybe 8 of them going around the Top cap.
 

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I would be curious how a top cap would perform if it had numerous very small holes going around the entire top cap about every 1/2" spaced out, this way it would create a swirling effect to the center hole, Rick if you can try this let us know how this works if you can, I mean really small holes and maybe 8 of them going around the Top cap.

I think it would result in loss of performance. The intake air needs to come across the wick/coils before exiting the drip tip. Any air not coming in across the wick/coils would simply go straight up and out.

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I would be curious how a top cap would perform if it had numerous very small holes going around the entire top cap about every 1/2" spaced out, this way it would create a swirling effect to the center hole, Rick if you can try this let us know how this works if you can, I mean really small holes and maybe 8 of them going around the Top cap.

I don't know if straight in holes would work that way. Trying to get a "venturi effect" would probably take a bit more engineering. I don't know if it would even be possible in such a confined space, but then again, like I said earlier, I'm not a modder.
 

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Such a system would only be truly efficient in an atomizer with an extremely small vapor chamber such as the Hellfire Mini or Mini DID, but especially so in the mDID b/c of the excellent flow dynamics to maximize the efficiency of the air once it's entered the chamber.
I would be curious how a top cap would perform if it had numerous very small holes going around the entire top cap about every 1/2" spaced out, this way it would create a swirling effect to the center hole, Rick if you can try this let us know how this works if you can, I mean really small holes and maybe 8 of them going around the Top cap.
 

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Such a system would only be truly efficient in an atomizer with an extremely small vapor chamber such as the Hellfire Mini or Mini DID, but especially so in the mDID b/c of the excellent flow dynamics to maximize the efficiency of the air once it's entered the chamber.

So you agree I take it then it would work, isnt that what your saying more or less Rick, then again there is also another unit coming that doesnt have an extremely small vapor chamber, so I disagree, I think it would also work in a bigger chamber if done correctly. Isnt David from S-T building one like this ? The way to do it is drill each hole on a 22.5 or 45% angle as well to help the direction of the airflow.
 
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I'm saying that I agree, but only under a fairly specific set of parameters. And yes he is, but we've only seem a couple ambiguous CADs that only detail external and aesthetic features, so until we see what he came up with for the posts, vapor chamber, and air intake, I'm a little skeptical. It's not that I'm trying to write off the strata or that I'm not interested in possibly getting one, b/c I am, but this is just new territory for the genesis community and I need to see it to believe it (or at the very least to vaguely understand it).
So you agree I take it then it would work, isnt that what your saying more or less Rick, then again there is also another unit coming that doesnt have an extremely small vapor chamber, so I disagree, I think it would also work in a bigger chamber if done correctly. Isnt David from S-T building one like this ?
 
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well, its a big choice of words you have there buddy, but without being an engineer, or even a machinist, I don't see how you can possibly say it can only work in a small chamber Rick, this just isnt so. There are ways to make directional airflow in a bigger chambers whether you've seen ambiguous CADs or not its been being done for years in other fields besides vaping buddy.
 
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Whoa there! I never claimed to be a machinist or an engineer buddy! I'm just speculating here and talking from personal experience. No matter what, lots of holes would work. Genesis atomizers LOVE lots of airflow, and lots of holes means lots of airflow. I'm just talking about what I think would be the best platform around which to finesse a setup that'd best play off of that particular cap design, and with that being said, I stand by my opinion that a smaller vapor chamber would maximize the effectiveness of the vastly increased airflow for the very simple fact that there's less volume within the chamber for the air to circulate, aka forcing more air over the coil b/c it has fewer other places to go.
well, its a big choice of words you have there buddy, but without being an engineer, or even a machinist, I don't see how you can possibly say it can only work in a small chamber Rick, this just isnt so. There are ways to make directional airflow in a bigger chamber whether you've seen ambiguous CADs or not its been being done for years in other fields besides vaping buddy.
 

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Rick would you not say that depending on what the pressure was when you took a pull had something to do with this though, depending on how the actual hole was made in the top cap, a smaller hole where the drip tip goes down into would create more pressure and pull in the inside of the cap ? where a bigger hole would have less pressure, thus it would change how all this could work depending on the final design, and whether a bigger or smaller top cap was made it would and could change on how much air intake was happening depending on the pull, and how those holes are made, there is a bit involved here and more that meets the eye Rick
 

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Lazzered we are in a good discussion, Ive about had it with you telling me what to do, if you dont want in the discussion then dont be in it, I'm ok with discussing this and obviously Rick is too,,, and you took what Cyrus said the wrong way, so you can insult me all you want, it wouldnt be the first time youve done this in this thread.
 

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I think Lazzered interpreted the post you made right before him as patronizing, which I agree with to some extent, but it doesn't particularly bother me.
Lazzered we are in a good discussion, Ive about had it with you telling me what to do, if you dont want in the discussion then dont be in it, I'm ok with discussing this and obviously Rick is too,,, and you took what Cyrus said the wrong way, so you can insult me all you want, it wouldnt be the first time youve done this in this thread.
 

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Rick would you not say that depending on what the pressure was when you took a pull had something to do with this though, depending on how the actual hole was made in the top cap, a smaller hole where the drip tip goes down into would create more pressure and pull in the inside of the cap ? where a bigger hole would have less pressure, thus it would change how all this could work depending on the final design, and whether a bigger or smaller top cap was made it would and could change on how much air intake was happening depending on the pull, and how those holes are made, there is a bit involved here and more that meets the eye Rick

Not being in the same league with you guys experience-wise, seems to me when the cap is off the vapor is magnified enormously by direct air flow across the coil. I'd speculate that it's not a pressure issue as much as a change in either boiling point or even air/vapor ratio causing expansion (e.g. thermodynamic flow from warm to colder). Might be very effective to simply drill additional small holes vertically where the existing hole is to cause additional laminar flow across a greater surface area of the coil. Just a hunch.
 

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Lazzered we are in a good discussion, Ive about had it with you telling me what to do, if you dont want in the discussion then dont be in it, I'm ok with discussing this and obviously Rick is too,,, and you took what Cyrus said the wrong way, so you can insult me all you want, it wouldnt be the first time youve done this in this thread.
Just saying this is Jims thread, and the DID as is is just fine as is.
If your want to have "your" discussion, open another thread for discussion. Or maybe disappear until you have your own genny atty's or whatever mods & accessories that are MWA designed . That's all.
 
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