New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Mr.Mann

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On the topic of flavors, I think The DID is akin to and active bass versus a passive bass. When I play modern music the bass needs to be punchier and crisper with all the nuances of the notes, but when I like to jam on some Motown/ older 60's 70's type music (which is virtually where I remain), I need a more thuddy thump with bass and less articulation of said sounds. As it turns out, the same song played the same way on an active Jazz bass versus a passive p-bass is night and day. I think tobacco juices are like the the old school funk that needs a p-bass (not the DID) and the modern grooves/ like sweeter flavors work nicely with a hot, articulate vibrant sound of an active j-bass or The DID. Sorry for making connections that may not be relevant to everyone else, but I see a huge connection that makes it make sense to me.

An active bass boosts certain frequencies by utilizing a pre-amp powered by a 9 volt battery and I think The DID does this kind of "pre-amplicfication." I believe that real tobacco juices (extracted) have underlying notes ;) that should not be amplified.
 

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That's one of the problems I have. I only have tobacco juice, and a lot of it. I have a couple non-tobacco juices too high in mg for the DID. I do have some Bobas (that's about as non-tobacco as it generally gets for me) and I really don't care to vape sweeter juices. So I will wait to see if I can get my DID shining with Bobas, but if I have to learn to love/appreciate sweet juices or non-tobaccos, then I may have to re-think this. I am not one of those frustrated with the DID itself, but flavor of my tobaccos is what I seek above all else. One of my favorite tobaccos tasted so damn funky in the DID that I've had to put that flavor away until I forget that taste. I remember wondering about flavors and this device, but you have to try for yourself to know. Flavors matter.

I vape tobacco juices almost exclusively and find they're fabulous on the DID. In fact, I taste subtle nuances in these juices that were previously hidden with cartos. I'd recommend you play with the setup a while longer; you may yet enjoy the results you're after. I realize everyone's tastes are different and YMMV, just relating my experience.
 

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I vape tobacco juices almost exclusively and find they're fabulous on the DID. In fact, I taste subtle nuances in these juices that were previously hidden with cartos. I'd recommend you play with the setup a while longer; you may yet enjoy the results you're after. I realize everyone's tastes are different and YMMV, just relating my experience.

What are some of the juices that perform best for you that are tobacco? I only vape out of attys and have not tried tobaccos out of cartos...never will. ;)
 

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Nothing to worry about - every single chinese imitation never functioned anywhere close to the originals.. That's what happen for instance with "bulli" they've copied.. Piece of garbage if you want it to work right out of the box.. It's always DIY projects for the folks who just needed cheap basic metal pieces shaped the half way to play with.. LOL
I'm sorry about posting about that Chinese DID (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...enesis-type-atomizer-did-412.html#post6918068)... I was just letting Jim know that the Chinese copied his DID and I think there's nothing wrong with my post. Copying someone's masterpiece is a form of flattery.

Buy hey, I'm not endorsing that crappy Chinese DID imitation. I'M A LOYAL JIM DID VAPER! :)
 

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I have the same but only with orange de sangre from HBV. It still vaping the tank bone dry and even those last darker drops got the same flavor. Im using 200 mesh btw.
In a carto tank orange de sangre did this to, i got the 70/30 pg/vg version.
It's carbon from the wick going down with some thickened burned juice/flavorings
 

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What are some of the juices that perform best for you that are tobacco? I only vape out of attys and have not tried tobaccos out of cartos...never will. ;)

I'm vaping Casablanca by BWB 12mg at the moment. I also vape a lot of Flavourcrafters Mac Maurier which is Canadian tobacco flavour and certainly cannot be compared to a conventional American tasting cigarette. Also tried varous other tobaccos but the Casa and Mac are the ones that I've had the best results with in the DID. 70/30 PG/VG on a 400 wick, 3/4 wraps 1.6-1.8 ohm, 3.7-4v indicated on the vmax (or 4.3-4.7 on anyting else...lol) filler screw in, medium wick thickness. However most significantly, no shorts or hotspots. Those will destroy a tobacco flavour faster than you can say I DID it.
 

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I'm vaping Casablanca by BWB 12mg at the moment. I also vape a lot of Flavourcrafters Mac Maurier which is Canadian tobacco flavour and certainly cannot be compared to a conventional American tasting cigarette. Also tried varous other tobaccos but the Casa and Mac are the ones that I've had the best results with in the DID. 70/30 PG/VG on a 400 wick, 3/4 wraps 1.6-1.8 ohm, 3.7-4v indicated on the vmax (or 4.3-4.7 on anyting else...lol) filler screw in, medium wick thickness. However most significantly, no shorts or hotspots. Those will destroy a tobacco flavour faster than you can say I DID it.

Have you tried any naturally extracted tobaccos like W2V, GoodeJuice, Prime Vaping, Vaperite or anything along those lines. Thanks for your input BTW. I love this thread, period.
 

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So once agin my vape quality starting going bad. I opened the top only to find that, once again, the top brass nut had loosened up. There must be a better way to fashion the post connection! I'm heading to Lowes to find some small needle nose pliers.

Not trying to be a wise guy here Pete, but are your nuts facing the right way?
If they are, try holding the bottom nut with a finger and using a round toothpick to tighten the top nut. Stick the toothpick into the knurling in the side of the nut and turn it. Also double check to ensure the bottom nut contacting the white grommet is nice and snug.
 

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Have you tried any naturally extracted tobaccos like W2V, GoodeJuice, Prime Vaping, Vaperite or anything along those lines. Thanks for your input BTW. I love this thread, period.

Have not tried any of those. Perhaps there is something about naturally extracted tobaccos that isn't DID friendly? Possible I suppose although don't ask me to explain the science behind it; I flunked grade 13 chemistry but only because I was in a band :)
 

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It's carbon from the wick going down with some thickened burned juice/flavorings

So its something in the liquid that does break down the carbon? I switch flavors 3-4 times a day in my did, neither off my rawr liquids give me that bleeding effect, nor does my bobbas.
Wat in a cartotank (phiniac) makes this happen, bc there its only the orange de sangre that does it to. Even in penelope that juice is darkening up, got clear windows.
I dont mind tough, like said flavor and vapor stays same till last drop.
 

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So its something in the liquid that does break down the carbon? I switch flavors 3-4 times a day in my did, neither off my rawr liquids give me that bleeding effect, nor does my bobbas.
Wat in a cartotank (phiniac) makes this happen, bc there its only the orange de sangre that does it to. Even in penelope that juice is darkening up, got clear windows.
I dont mind tough, like said flavor and vapor stays same till last drop.
Mono, you're using the Orange de Sangre in a clear tank on your DID? I'm just curious to see how the Kir Fanis tank holds up to citrus juices.
 

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Have not tried any of those. Perhaps there is something about naturally extracted tobaccos that isn't DID friendly? Possible I suppose although don't ask me to explain the science behind it; I flunked grade 13 chemistry but only because I was in a band :)

NETs can be demanding about what they want to be vaped in.
 

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I just squeezed and rolled the old mesh i took out between my fingers and a white tissue and it just gets wet, no color what-so-ever. So I am guessing it has something to do with the new mesh i am using since everything else is the same.
I have just seringed everything out of the DID, and then used seringe with water to flush out the tank to clean it and keep my setup the same. Have filled it with a different clear RY4 now (a PG instead of VG) and am going to see if it stars bleeding again.

Back to this. Did you take off the fill screw by any chance? I just tried that, and my wick started leeching backwards almost immediately. Within a few minutes I had a base layer of darkened juice at the bottom of my tank.
 

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I notice that my ADV has gotten darker in my tank, but I'm not noticing any bleeding effect with my setup. Curious to see how this works out. I would torch that wick once more, or do a juice burn on it .. just because. :)

I'd bury that wick with a clove of garlic and a prayer...

Only time I've seen leeching like that was when switching flavors from dark to lighter and some residual was hanging around the o-ring at the bottom of the tank.
 

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Punching up the bass on my non tobacco juice from 8.0W to 10.0W.

Keep ya posted.

Dialed back the bass boost to 9.0W, and the flavour is improving. Definitely more pronounced than at 8.0W. Hmm.. there may be something to this effect. Having to add a bit more power due to steel mesh and potentially thicker coil configuration?!
 
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