Hey Mr. Mann, you may want to experiment with different setups (mesh: 270, 325, 400 and wire 32, 34 single/double coil etc). Ive found I really prefer double coil 34 on a 3/4 wrap with higher voltage than I ever would've with a ~1.7ohm setup.
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Hey Mr. Mann, you may want to experiment with different setups (mesh: 270, 325, 400 and wire 32, 34 single/double coil etc). Ive found I really prefer double coil 34 on a 3/4 wrap with higher voltage than I ever would've with a ~1.7ohm setup.
Progress report: My coil finally dropped down into the 1.0-1.1 ohm range, and that was a bit too much current flow for my liking. I also attempted to "twist" my wick out to clean, but found I had wrapped the coil much tighter than I should've. It wouldn't budge without destroying my coil 
So ended up pulling that coil off and tearing down the entire DID for a quick cleaning.
I too noticed the center brass post was oxidizing in the center, can juice really work its way down through the top nut and insulator?! I polished up the center post (pencil eraser really does work nice, as does a bit of flitz) and will rebuild a new coil soon. I had also thought my wick was a "fat" wick, but there was actually a decent gap between the wick and wick hole. Thinking I will start completely over (but will save the old wick for use later) and attempt to use the supplied allen wrench for a fatter wick.
I have a couple of questions as well, seeings as I use the DID on non-regulated 3.7V , as well as VV devices, I'd like to keep it somewhat LR. Would it be wise to use a 4/3 wrap of 32AWG, that way when the resistance drops .3~ ohms or so, I'll be right where I want to be? Are most of you seeing that sort of drop with coils after a couple of days of use? I may even try my 30AWG Kanthal, but really want a coil that stabilizes around 1.5 ohms or higher (that 1.1 ohm coil REALLY sucks down my batteries)
Also, when people refer to a "double coil" are they talking about doing a twisted/braided coil? Not sure I'm ready to try that just yet, though it sounds like it'd work great!
Sorry for rambling, just a bit bummed I'm DID-less for the moment. Though it's a good excuse to practice my gen. setup skills, and another good reason to have a second (or third) DID in my collection
So ended up pulling that coil off and tearing down the entire DID for a quick cleaning. I too noticed the center brass post was oxidizing in the center, can juice really work its way down through the top nut and insulator?! I polished up the center post (pencil eraser really does work nice, as does a bit of flitz) and will rebuild a new coil soon. I had also thought my wick was a "fat" wick, but there was actually a decent gap between the wick and wick hole. Thinking I will start completely over (but will save the old wick for use later) and attempt to use the supplied allen wrench for a fatter wick.
I have a couple of questions as well, seeings as I use the DID on non-regulated 3.7V , as well as VV devices, I'd like to keep it somewhat LR. Would it be wise to use a 4/3 wrap of 32AWG, that way when the resistance drops .3~ ohms or so, I'll be right where I want to be? Are most of you seeing that sort of drop with coils after a couple of days of use? I may even try my 30AWG Kanthal, but really want a coil that stabilizes around 1.5 ohms or higher (that 1.1 ohm coil REALLY sucks down my batteries)
Also, when people refer to a "double coil" are they talking about doing a twisted/braided coil? Not sure I'm ready to try that just yet, though it sounds like it'd work great!
Sorry for rambling, just a bit bummed I'm DID-less for the moment. Though it's a good excuse to practice my gen. setup skills, and another good reason to have a second (or third) DID in my collection
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That's been my theory
If I run a 2.0 ohm .357 at 3.7 volts I get a ton of vapor, but that doesn't seem to happen when running a Geny at 2.0 and 3.7 unless I take terribly long drags (even long for a geny), and even then its not as thick
I think the steel mesh absorbs some heat, requiring more power
So I typically run my .357s, I06s, etc at 9-10 watts, but my gennys all run at 10-12 watts
Thanks for that. The only problem is, I secretly wished not to have to try many different set-ups and subsequent mastery of those set-ups to get what I was looking for. I was hoping for the bare bones out of the package to work in the way that suited me. I am not averse to the idea at all and thank you for it, but that still puts a lot more research and hours into the set-up than I would like at this time. I respect all those that have the time to allot to that kind of trial and error, but I would prefer less. It all remains to be seen as to whether I think it is worth it. I must insist, again, that this is me and not The DID. I do believe there is a way for me to get the type of enjoyment that many of you speak of, but I am in the process of losing the once open schedule that I used to have. Having to re-organize my life and the house for the new addition to my family and all. I may have been just a tad bit too late to the party. And that's fine, you will never hear me dismiss The DID, JD, or this thread. My time spent on this thread and will spend, has made me all the more knowledgeable about so many things. I am not an "I can't get it to work right; the hell with this!" person. It's more of, "Hmm, that's interesting, maybe it's not optimum for me."
Progress report: My coil finally dropped down into the 1.0-1.1 ohm range, and that was a bit too much current flow for my liking. I also attempted to "twist" my wick out to clean, but found I had wrapped the coil much tighter than I should've. It wouldn't budge without destroying my coil
I too noticed the center brass post was oxidizing in the center, can juice really work its way down through the top nut and insulator?! I polished up the center post (pencil eraser really does work nice, as does a bit of flitz) and will rebuild a new coil soon. I had also thought my wick was a "fat" wick, but there was actually a decent gap between the wick and wick hole. Thinking I will start completely over (but will save the old wick for use later) and attempt to use the supplied allen wrench for a fatter wick.
I have a couple of questions as well, seeings as I use the DID on non-regulated 3.7V , as well as VV devices, I'd like to keep it somewhat LR. Would it be wise to use a 4/3 wrap of 32AWG, that way when the resistance drops .3~ ohms or so, I'll be right where I want to be? Are most of you seeing that sort of drop with coils after a couple of days of use? I may even try my 30AWG Kanthal, but really want a coil that stabilizes around 1.5 ohms or higher (that 1.1 ohm coil REALLY sucks down my batteries)
Also, when people refer to a "double coil" are they talking about doing a twisted/braided coil? Not sure I'm ready to try that just yet, though it sounds like it'd work great!
Sorry for rambling, just a bit bummed I'm DID-less for the moment. Though it's a good excuse to practice my gen. setup skills, and another good reason to have a second (or third) DID in my collection
I always check my resistance without the wick, and then with the wick, to make sure I don't have a short. My ohms stay completely stable for the life of the coil typically. Only two exceptions are
1) a pile of gunk on the coil
2) when its been sitting in my cold air conditioned vape room for a night, in the morning it'll read 1.6 for example for the first few vapes, and then drop back to 1.5.
my 3/2 wrap on a fat wick has been holding steady at 1.6 for a while now
This. I use vaperite tobacco regurarly and it shines on a genesis atty IMO. (Still waiting for the DID... I tried with another genesis atty
)I tried vapenstein tobacco with a genesis. Knowing that vapenstein uses regular LR atties, I wondered the exact same thing. His juices change a lot with a genesis.I wonder when juice chefs will start trying their recipes on genisis atties before they sell them.
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I think I'd freakin solder it if I wasn't thinking logically. I can't tell you how many times those top two are the bain of the vape experience on my "dependable" DID.
And yes....knurled sides together. I keep dabbling between the 32/34g. Coils just don't add up, but this one vapes like a champ for a day or so, then needs cleaning. Seems to need a clean down too frequently even for VG.
And yes....knurled sides together. I keep dabbling between the 32/34g. Coils just don't add up, but this one vapes like a champ for a day or so, then needs cleaning. Seems to need a clean down too frequently even for VG.
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I hope that because of the demand for these things that quality is not starting to slip...mines has been shipped and is on it's way...
...fingers crossed.
Yes, free time is a precious thing, but of course, so is the wonderful bundle soon to appear on your doorstep. Of course, your priority is your family, work, and this little hobby needs to take a seat on the back burner. However, might I just suggest, keep it simple. Grab a piece of kanthal, wrap it around the wick a time or two or three, attach, and vape. I do this myself quite a lot, as the thrill of experimentation as given way to need. For the most part, it works. About the most I mess around with now is just getting the top of wick close to center pole without touching, and keeping the bottom wire on the tank until it starts its climb. I rarely find it needs cleaning, certainly not as often as when I was in my full blown, its got to be perfect mode. If all else fails, toss in drawer, go back to your favorite simple vape method, and know, free time will again return, and you can try again some other time. Chin up, deep breath, all is well. Let me also say, your contributions to this thread have been very appriciated by all. Thanks.
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I'm thinking that some of these flavour molecules are to heavy to make the journey up the SS wick, or they arrive at the top at different rates.My ADV, Geoffs Blend from Tasty Vapor also does not seem to want to shine on the DID. I am almost thinking that it needs the carto filler and corruption to make the flavours pop..
Dusty, your so hooked on the Geoff's Blend I'm sure you're going to find the DiD GB solution eventually. Have you tried some Cheese-cloth threads in the SS core? Silica wick core or the Cotton Batten wrap?
Cheese-Cloth Thread in SS core
YEP! I have indeed figured out just this.
After I filled up the DID again with the clear PG RY4 i added the fill screw again and i had more vapor of the PG than i had of the VG and no bleeding!
I vaped about half a tank of the PG and as you can see no bleeding!
So now i wanted to know! I seringed out the perfectly good PG RY4 and filled it again with the VG RY4 but then i suddenly realized that i had not put in the fill screw this morning because i wanted to test that theory about getting more vapor etc.
So I put it to the test, i put the fill screw in and vaped the VG and no bleeding what so ever.
Ok time for the next test, i took the fill screw out, started vaping and within about 7 or 8 hits there was the bleeding!
Now i want to know more about what the theory behind this is!
As I stated before i have a stable coil at 2 ohms (measured on provari on a regular basis) no visible hotspots, it is not touching top or bottom etc. So I do not believe there is a short. AND i can recreate the bleeding by taking out the fill screw.
*scratches head and wonders*
Jim, maybe you should put numbers on all your atty's, kinda like what company's do with expensive limited edition pieces...along with an owners registrar document/pedigree certificate...so that if anyone buy's/sells their DID, the future purchasers could trace the previous owners and the exact date of production etc....that would be fun...
Well it is to show that people are always copied. The problem is the chinese have no copy right protection. They copy everything from cruise missiles to Atty's..
It is a shame, not sure if DID know this so I posted it. When you start mass producing stuff quality control can suffer. Over all I purchase 2 DIDS from Jim so I support him.
If I didn't support him I would have not puchase them and when to some other genesis type tank..
Over all I hear only good things about the DID and for the videos on Youtube.com too..
Can we please make it the end of this topic and move to helping people discover and enjoy there DIDS!!!! Thank you.. Over with the drama..
We are guys with new toys.. Not a bunch of hens.. 
Do not be alarmed if you're experiencing mild-moderate discoloration to your juice, especially with a new wick, and even more so if you used the cigarette paper trick. I usually just leave it be, and after 3 or 4 refills, it stops happening, but if it concerns you (be it from a health perspective or you're just a little .... like that (no judgement from me)), than before filling your tank, pump water via your syringe through the fill hole and let it spill out the wick.
This is quite simple really. Removing the fill screw creates more of a wicking action due to the vacuum being extended down into the tank. This causes more juice to climb up the wick when you take a nice long draw on it. Once you release the vacuum, it just comes back down the wick.. creating the bleeding effect.
Figured that out all by myself.. Yay!!
Figured that out all by myself.. Yay!!
Agreed, given the amount of pollutants I have sucked into these aged lungs, a bit of carbon or gunk from the bottom of the tank is not something to over worry. You have heat, metal, juice with whatever ingredients, and as you process, some discoloration is bound to occur. I can remember when I pulled the batting from a well used carto, just to see, it was completely disgusting. So my feeling is sort of, not to worry unless it begins to impede the function of my device, and I have seen no evidence so far. If it gets really dirty, just toss and start again. Or rinse as rwechsler suggests.
I need another DID.
And some more tube mods to use them on.
Back to your regularly scheduled program.
And some more tube mods to use them on.
Back to your regularly scheduled program.
No light tricking my eyes hear man, mine are putting out as much as the one in the video, I have a single wick in one did and a dual wick in the 2nd DID, my ohm is 1.2ohm with the 2 wrap, flavor is crazy good and vapor is explosive
So, mwa when you refer to a 2 wire wrap...are you running a double wire coil ?
Jim, are the latest regular sized DID's like this or is it just the Mini's that are like this...looks good.
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