New Halon introduction & mini tank coil burning Tribecca issue

[Cherokee1979]

Hi Halons.

Cherokee here, introducing myself to the forum... it's good to be here, and I am really pleased to read how friendly and helpful everyone on this sub-forum is! You all seem to have an awesome sense of humor as well. I particularly like reading some of wheezal's quips/innuendos (as I'm admittedly a huge fan of sophomoric jokes - I guess I'm 34 going on 14).

I am quite new to vaping, and have been vaping a G6 manual (black, 78mm) for about two weeks now. For the most part, I have been loving the G6 starter kit (as I like the slim profile), but I highly suspect that I will be upgrading to something a bit more powerful soon (and after a bunch more research on ECF), and which provides a smoother taste, as I have been having a bit of a rough time with my mini-tanks, and burning fluid on the coil (discussed below).

First, though, as a bit of background, I am one of the seeming minority that picked up vaping without being much of a smoker at all. I used to smoke a light amount between my teens and into college, but then essentially stopped altogether (asides from a smoke here or there when out having a drink). However, in the past 3 months, I have been going through a REALLY difficult time in my family life, and troubles with my wife, and bought a pack of Marlboro Lights for the first time in quite awhile, which I kinda used as a crutch to help distract me from this awful situation. I do not drink, and thought that this might calm my nerves a bit. After smoking about 3 packs, I decided that I really did not like it, and smelled like s#%t, and thought it would be smart to look into vaping. The first time I vaped was off of a friend's device about a year ago, and did not particularly like it, as the flavor was quite artificial-tasting, and the battery, for me, was too big. Hence, I chose something rather smaller (as I do not like the light saber hookah look), and went with the black G6. The set up looks really classy and unobtrusive, I think. With the smoke mini-tanks, the setup looks VERY close to a black gel pen, which I think is really cool, as I can vape at the office without being too in-your-face about it.

Now, on to the problem with the mini-tanks: I've bought 2 of Halo's e-juice samplers to use in my tanks, and REALLY love the Tribecca. It is glorious. However, I have been encountering a bit of trouble with the Tribecca (but not other Halo juices) getting a burnt taste from the coil and occasionally the fluid is getting discolored from the excess burning/gurgling (even though I am not filling any juice into the center hole). I have honestly no clue as to why the Tribecca is burning on the coil of the mini-tanks. It makes no sense, as many of the Halo aficionados here, and Halo customer service, all seem to agree that Tribecca is one of the more "versatile" juices, and is not as prone to burn as some of the darker juices (e.g., Voodo, etc). I hope that someone might have some advice, as it is frustrating the hell out of me, and am even contemplating solely putting the Tribecca into cartos to avoid the problem. Burnt Tribecca is still not bad, but it certainly is not good either. And I don't even take enormous pulls - certainly less than the 5-second cutoff on the G6 (probably 4 seconds or so). And the top coil is seeming to get rather hot, even after one pull (hence, I wait for it to cool before taking another pull - solely to avoid the burnt taste). This has happened with two tanks now (both of which have been new).

Thanks to anyone out there with any advice as to avoiding this burning, as it is driving me a bit crazy. Nice to meet y'all, and I'm looking forward to reading more of your posts in the future!

- Cherokee

 

[FallenRawToast]

welcome to the Halon Nation!!!

I have a few ideas, but.. since I have never used a G6 I will sit on my ideas for now, till some of the experience G6 user show up.


Just curious though, since you were a non smoker, what mg of nic did you go with?

 

[CafeDigitalDiva]

Hello and Welcome Cherokee. Very nice introduction, very nice indeed. Well, for starters, the situation you're having is just the reason I don't particularly care for the minitanks. Sry Halo. BUT, Halo's LR cartos (Low Resistance) are wonderful on the G6's and has a warm feel similar to a cigarette, (imho). The drip tip on the minitanks also fit on the LR cartos and makes for quite a stunning look. Tribeca is my favorite flavor, and I can only imagine your frustration at trying to vape it with a burnt taste....yech! So maybe as an alternative, you can give the LR's a try. They also have XLarge cartos, that hold 1.5mls of juice. Both of these come in black, so they would match your G6 perfectly. I'm sure others will come and give a more technical response, but the LR's have worked very well for me....ymmv. Good luck on your vaping journey.

 

[GreenLeaf]

Welcome,

The mini-tanks do heat up mad quick, very close to LR cartos. I have used both extensively for 5 months before getting the Triton. Unfortunately there's no way to pull the coil and check the wicks for the severity of the burn, and cleaning is rather limited but still makes quite a difference. They are more or less disposable parts.

IMO, Tribeca doesn't tolerate heat terribly well (like Southern Classic) and when it scorches it really eliminates the flavor.

light saber hookah, I like that.

 

[Cherokee1979]

welcome to the Halon Nation!!!

I have a few ideas, but.. since I have never used a G6 I will sit on my ideas for now, till some of the experience G6 user show up.


Just curious though, since you were a non smoker, what mg of nic did you go with?

Thanks for your reply! I initially bought a variety sampler in 18 nic. I was thinking "hey... more bang for my buck, and I might get a bit of a nic buzz too!" Well, I think that 18 nic was too high for me. I did not have many of the traditional symptoms of nic OD that many people seem to have mentioned in this sub-forum (e.g., sleeplessness, headaches, heart over-beating, etc.) However, I noticed that my ears would burn quite hot, from an excess of blood running to the area. I do not know if this is not a common nic OD symptom, but I have not read of it happening to anyone else? Have you or any other Halons ever heard of this? This also previously happened to me occasionally after a night of a few too many drinks (which I've read is somewhat common - particularly with people of Asian decent - which I am not), but I no longer drink anymore. Welllllll, sorry for the aside!! My next order was the tobacco sampler and a 30ml bottle of tribeca in 12 nic. I like it better, and may even move to a 6 nic, particularly if I buy a more powerful battery. Thanks again, and nice to meet you!

 

[Cherokee1979]

Hello and Welcome Cherokee. Very nice introduction, very nice indeed. Well, for starters, the situation you're having is just the reason I don't particularly care for the minitanks. Sry Halo. BUT, Halo's LR cartos (Low Resistance) are wonderful on the G6's and has a warm feel similar to a cigarette, (imho). The drip tip on the minitanks also fit on the LR cartos and makes for quite a stunning look. Tribeca is my favorite flavor, and I can only imagine your frustration at trying to vape it with a burnt taste....yech! So maybe as an alternative, you can give the LR's a try. They also have XLarge cartos, that hold 1.5mls of juice. Both of these come in black, so they would match your G6 perfectly. I'm sure others will come and give a more technical response, but the LR's have worked very well for me....ymmv. Good luck on your vaping journey.

Hi there! Thanks for your reply and the kind words. I write for a living, and have a tendency to write long posts/emails, as it takes me little time to spill it all out on the "chomputer" (as my friend hilariously spelled it out on the spine of his textbook in high school), but I am glad to hear that the post was not too longwinded/boring! Funny that you should mention the LR's. After reading a few of the Halons' cogent posts about same, I actually have some in my cart right now. I think that I might vape them with the Tribeca, and it would be heavenly if I do not get a burnt taste with them. I also agree that the black-on-black should look pretty sleek. I will also definitely remember to put some black driptips on them. It is just too bad about the tanks, as I adore them, but they are freaking frying my present ADV (albeit for only 2 weeks). Thanks again!

 

[built4feel]

Welcome,
I know what you mean about the taste...I had this issue on my triton a few weeks ago.. I was getting it off a new coil too. Looking back, it was either a bad coil or burning way too hot, since I was using a fully charged battery. That day I also remember accidentally not turning my battery off, and i was vaping in my pocket!! I could smell it eventually... Plus, I was fairly new to my device and using it quite heavily, and a lot of my flavors were not tasting like they used to; I had acquired a vapers tongue.
I have resolved this issue with a new coil, since I probably burnt that one out in my pocket lol..and I have been taking good care of my mouth and semi regulating myself with the amount I vape a day...
I think greenleaf and diva are on the right track btw.
Good luck to getting your flavor tasting is should. Can I recommend trying a half charged battery? That's why I love my vv btw..

 

[Cherokee1979]

Welcome,

The mini-tanks do heat up mad quick, very close to LR cartos. I have used both extensively for 5 months before getting the Triton. Unfortunately there's no way to pull the coil and check the wicks for the severity of the burn, and cleaning is rather limited but still makes quite a difference. They are more or less disposable parts.

IMO, Tribeca doesn't tolerate heat terribly well (like Southern Classic) and when it scorches it really eliminates the flavor.

light saber hookah, I like that.

Hi GreenLeaf. Thanks for your explanation that Tribeca does not tolerate heat very well. That, paired with the fact that the mini tanks tend to heat up very quickly, goes a long way in explaining the issue. I sort of suspected as much, but was hoping that there was some merit to peoples' mentions that Tribeca is generally rather "user friendly." It appears to me, from my very limited usage, that, in this capacity, it is sadly not. I clean the tanks relatively frequently (approx. after 2 fills), but it appears to do little for the performance of the Tribeca in the tanks. Do you feel that Tribeca would "perform" better in the Triton, and have far less burning? I am on the fence as to whether to buy a Triton starter kit (but no accompanying VV as of right now, due to the size), or whether to search the rest of ECF for a bit and find (possibly) something just as nice, but which can have more components compatible with it and its threading. However, I do not feel that I will likely be too much of a heavy mod guy, as I can be rather lazy when tinkering with stuff, and like ready-made. Well, nice to meet you!

 

[Cherokee1979]

Welcome,
I know what you mean about the taste...I had this issue on my triton a few weeks ago.. I was getting it off a new coil too. Looking back, it was either a bad coil or burning way too hot, since I was using a new battery. That day I also remember accidentaly not turning my battery off and was vaping in my pocket, I could smell it eventually... Plus, I was fairly new to my device and using it quite heavily, and a lot of my flavors were not tasting like they used to; I had acquired a vapers tongue. Hope this helps. I have resolved this issue with a new coil, aince I probably burnt that one out in my pocket lol..and have been taking good care of my mouth and semi regulating myself with the amount I vape a day...
I think greenleaf and diva are on the right track btw.

Thanks for your reply. Also I love your Hendrix ... hilarious! I hope to find a solution to this eventually, and I'm sure that it should eventually work out. As a COMPLETELY unrelated aside, I see that you are in York, PA. I have friends who live there, and I went to law school not far from there, but I never thought to ask anyone this.... Do you remember the late 90's band "Live"? They are from York. I wonder if they are still around, to your knowledge? Pretty decent band, and I remember them killing a song from Throwing Copper on one of their TV appearances on SNL. Well, thus concludes my completely random brain fart. Thanks again, and I'd better head out from work now... been dicking around on the computer for a bit too long here.

 

[Cherokee1979]

Well, thus concludes my completely random brain fart. Thanks again, and I'd better head out from work now... been dicking around on the computer for a bit too long here.

But please don't get me wrong... I love me some screwing around on the computer, and reading this forum is awesome. I just wish I got paid for it. I would be a millionaire.

 

[GreenLeaf]

Thanks for your reply! I initially bought a variety sampler in 18 nic. I was thinking "hey... more bang for my buck, and I might get a bit of a nic buzz too!" Well, I think that 18 nic was too high for me. I did not have many of the traditional symptoms of nic OD that many people seem to have mentioned in this sub-forum (e.g., sleeplessness, headaches, heart over-beating, etc.) However, I noticed that my ears would burn quite hot, from an excess of blood running to the area. I do not know if this is not a common nic OD symptom, but I have not read of it happening to anyone else? Have you or any other Halons ever heard of this? This also previously happened to me occasionally after a night of a few too many drinks (which I've read is somewhat common - particularly with people of Asian decent - which I am not), but I no longer drink anymore. Welllllll, sorry for the aside!! My next order was the tobacco sampler and a 30ml bottle of tribeca in 12 nic. I like it better, and may even move to a 6 nic, particularly if I buy a more powerful battery. Thanks again, and nice to meet you!

Ah yes, over-ordering on the nic. Very common new user mistake I think most of us have made.

We are so used to the instant satisfaction by the combustion of cigarettes and additives that wildly increase nicotine absorption. The nicotine delivery of heated vapor takes a few minutes to kick in, so it's easy to over do it. I know it tastes good, but it's okay to set it down once in awhile.

I haven't heard of a burning sensation in the ears, but when I accidentally OD (like last night) along with the increased heart rate I can feel and "hear" the blood rushing through my ears, similar to when you stand up too fast after sitting for an extended period.

Nicotine is a known blood vessel constrictor. Alcohol is a vasodilator. It makes your blood vessels bigger with more area for your blood to flow, the pressure decreases.

I'm hesitantly dropping to 6mg myself.

 

[FallenRawToast]

Thanks for your reply! I initially bought a variety sampler in 18 nic. I was thinking "hey... more bang for my buck, and I might get a bit of a nic buzz too!" Well, I think that 18 nic was too high for me. I did not have many of the traditional symptoms of nic OD that many people seem to have mentioned in this sub-forum (e.g., sleeplessness, headaches, heart over-beating, etc.) However, I noticed that my ears would burn quite hot, from an excess of blood running to the area. I do not know if this is not a common nic OD symptom, but I have not read of it happening to anyone else? Have you or any other Halons ever heard of this? This also previously happened to me occasionally after a night of a few too many drinks (which I've read is somewhat common - particularly with people of Asian decent - which I am not), but I no longer drink anymore. Welllllll, sorry for the aside!! My next order was the tobacco sampler and a 30ml bottle of tribeca in 12 nic. I like it better, and may even move to a 6 nic, particularly if I buy a more powerful battery. Thanks again, and nice to meet you!

You can always buy 0nic and mix with your 18mg to make 9mg too... Just an idea.

 

[FallenRawToast]

I am on the fence as to whether to buy a Triton starter kit (but no accompanying VV as of right now, due to the size), or whether to search the rest of ECF for a bit and find (possibly) something just as nice, but which can have more components compatible with it and its threading. However, I do not feel that I will likely be too much of a heavy mod guy, as I can be rather lazy when tinkering with stuff, and like ready-made. Well, nice to meet you!

The triton is not much longer than the G6, just maybe twice as wide.

Anything else you look at from other brands will be roughly the same size. Same as their VV's.

There isnt much of a difference in the stick batt type than the triton, if you look at other brands, except for the threading. The only big difference you run into is quality of the item.


Also, you can always use the G6 or a smaller Triton battery for when you go out, and save the VV for home use. Because yes... the VV does give a better vape than a regular battery when it is all said.

 

[built4feel]

Cherokee, I was not aware we had a band that made it big come out of this area! Although I probably would of heard of them if I was 5-10 years younger...I was in middle school when they were popular, according to Wikipedia.. I was listening to Led Zeppelin and the Chili peppers at that time (and still do) Thats pretty cool you know this area though...Glad you mentioned it. I got into local bands a few years after they were long gone it sounds like.

 

[GreenLeaf]

Do you feel that Tribeca would "perform" better in the Triton, and have far less burning? I am on the fence as to whether to buy a Triton starter kit (but no accompanying VV as of right now, due to the size), or whether to search the rest of ECF for a bit and find (possibly) something just as nice, but which can have more components compatible with it and its threading. However, I do not feel that I will likely be too much of a heavy mod guy, as I can be rather lazy when tinkering with stuff, and like ready-made. Well, nice to meet you!

Yes and no. On a fresh charge the Triton starts at a higher voltage, drops down around 3.7-3.9 volts for most of the charge, and drops volts again shortly before it needs a recharge. You could use a different flavor at the beginning of the charge and then switch to Tribeca at the discharge time you are comfortable with. That's where a VV is superior, but I understand the size thing. It's not too big to carry in your pocket however.

The Triton has a larger coil and wicks with more surface area, which means more ejuice is coming into contact with the heating element. I feel this gives more leeway and can be more forgiving than mini/cartos in terms of burning.

Take a look around here, everybody is satisfied with their Triton. Proprietary 808 or not, it's one stop shopping. Plug and play. There are lots of competitors. As long as you're happily vaping, you're doing it right.

 

[Evie Luv]

Welcome Cherokee and fellow Tribeca lover. You have received some excellent advice. I don't like the mini tanks because they burn too hot for me, I use just the plain cartos but if you would like to try the LR cartos I have some I can send you because I didn't like them they burned to hot for me too.

The Tritons have more flavor, more vapor and they aren't as big as you might think. I use and still love my G6 with cartos but the Triton is great too.

In this picture are:
my blue & purple 78mm G6 batteries with the drip tips,
my yellow 400 mAh Triton with cone using a carto with a drip tip,
my pink 400 mAh Triton with a Triton tank,
my green 650 mAh Triton with cone using a carto with a drip tip
and my red 650 mAh Triton with a Triton tank.

Other than being just slightly fatter they are not huge and you can still be stealthy with them. I use both the G6 and Tritons because some flavors are better in the Triton tanks and some are better in the cartos to me. If you do decide to get a Triton though the USB chargers are different so you'll have to get the Triton charger for those batteries. The 400 mAh are more stealthy but the 650 mAh are my favorite. They balance perfect with the Triton tanks and fit nicely in my hand.

 

[AngiBe]

Welcome aboard!!!! Glad you found us!

 

[Cherokee1979]

Welcome Cherokee and fellow Tribeca lover. You have received some excellent advice. I don't like the mini tanks because they burn too hot for me, I use just the plain cartos but if you would like to try the LR cartos I have some I can send you because I didn't like them they burned to hot for me too.

The Tritons have more flavor, more vapor and they aren't as big as you might think. I use and still love my G6 with cartos but the Triton is great too.

In this picture are:
my blue & purple 78mm G6 batteries with the drip tips,
my yellow 400 mAh Triton with cone using a carto with a drip tip,
my pink 400 mAh Triton with a Triton tank,
my green 650 mAh Triton with cone using a carto with a drip tip
and my red 650 mAh Triton with a Triton tank.

Other than being just slightly fatter they are not huge and you can still be stealthy with them. I use both the G6 and Tritons because some flavors are better in the Triton tanks and some are better in the cartos to me. If you do decide to get a Triton though the USB chargers are different so you'll have to get the Triton charger for those batteries. The 400 mAh are more stealthy but the 650 mAh are my favorite. They balance perfect with the Triton tanks and fit nicely in my hand.

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Hi Evie!

First off, has anyone told you today yet what a sweetheart you are! I sure hope so, but, if not, allow me to be the first. I mean, wow! Your offer re: the LR's was incredibly sweet! . I knew that people were very nice on this forum, but that just took the cake! Also, congrats to you for quitting smoking after so many years. Good for you! What a blessing. Do I remember correctly that you smoked for 40 years? What a great accomplishment for you. Both my grandfather and grandmother died from cigarettes. What a terrible shame that they did not have all of this amazing technology available back then.

Thanks also for the picture of your various devices! It is most helpful to see them next to the 78mm. You are right that the Tritons are not too big, and I think that I, too, like the look and size of the 650 mAh. Oh, and I must mention that, from reading your posts, I got the idea of labeling. Yours look awesome. I simply used a small strip of clear packing tape and a small strip of paper, but I guess it still gets the job done.

Thanks again for your helpful advice and for being so kind!

 

[Cherokee1979]

Yes and no. On a fresh charge the Triton starts at a higher voltage, drops down around 3.7-3.9 volts for most of the charge, and drops volts again shortly before it needs a recharge. You could use a different flavor at the beginning of the charge and then switch to Tribeca at the discharge time you are comfortable with. That's where a VV is superior, but I understand the size thing. It's not too big to carry in your pocket however.

The Triton has a larger coil and wicks with more surface area, which means more ejuice is coming into contact with the heating element. I feel this gives more leeway and can be more forgiving than mini/cartos in terms of burning.

Take a look around here, everybody is satisfied with their Triton. Proprietary 808 or not, it's one stop shopping. Plug and play. There are lots of competitors. As long as you're happily vaping, you're doing it right.

Thanks much for both of your informative replies, GreenLeaf. It really helped. I also like your reference to the Tritons being plug-and-play. That is a nice feature for people like me who tend not to monkey around too much. Well, I'd best get off to bed. You all have been MOST helpful, so thanks again! I will most certainly be checking back in, and reading many more of your posts. It is certainly nice to be here. Goodnight, y'all.

 

[Evie Luv]

Hi Evie!

First off, has anyone told you today yet what a sweetheart you are! I sure hope so, but, if not, allow me to be the first. I mean, wow! Your offer re: the LR's was incredibly sweet! . I knew that people were very nice on this forum, but that just took the cake! Also, congrats to you for quitting smoking after so many years. Good for you! What a blessing. Do I remember correctly that you smoked for 40 years? What a great accomplishment for you. Both my grandfather and grandmother died from cigarettes. What a terrible shame that they did not have all of this amazing technology available back then.

Thanks also for the picture of your various devices! It is most helpful to see them next to the 78mm. You are right that the Tritons are not too big, and I think that I, too, like the look and size of the 650 mAh. Oh, and I must mention that, from reading your posts, I got the idea of labeling. Yours look awesome. I simply used a small strip of clear packing tape and a small strip of paper, but I guess it still gets the job done.

Thanks again for your helpful advice and for being so kind!

Your welcome Cherokee but I had only smoked 30 years LOL And if you want the LR cartos PM me your address and I'll be happy to send them to you.