New IPV3. Needs New Batteries??

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See, I don't know why everyone wouldn't just understand/agree to this.

Odds are you won't experience battery venting, even in EXTREME situations, but you're not helping reduce the chances by ignoring simple things like rotating batteries, ensuring they're married, etc.

Even though I dont want to. I am picking up 2 new VTC5 for the IPV3 today and will mark them accordingly. Whether chances are slim or not on disregarding the issue, I want to be 100% cautious.....as it only takes one, "I told you so."
 

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Even though I dont want to. I am picking up 2 new VTC5 for the IPV3 today and will mark them accordingly. Whether chances are slim or not on disregarding the issue, I want to be 100% cautious.....as it only takes one, "I told you so."

All the power to ya bud. I view it the same way. It's probably not gonna happen to me (or even the person who doesn't bother marrying their batteries, in all likelihood), but I'm not the biggest fan of taking chances. That's kind of.. The whole reason I quit smoking. Heh.
 

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Even though I dont want to. I am picking up 2 new VTC5 for the IPV3 today and will mark them accordingly. Whether chances are slim or not on disregarding the issue, I want to be 100% cautious.....as it only takes one, "I told you so."

I'd be cautious about buying vtc5's no reputable vendor has had or will have legitimate / authentic vtc5's in stock for quite some time.
There are many fakes on the market with various known and a few unknown lower quality / lesser cdr cells re wrapped as vtc5.
 

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I wouldn't worry about them being from the same batch etc. I have VTC5's purchased at different times and i know that some get more use than others but as long as they are the same batteries then they are going to be used. There is some risk in using any batteries but i'm not going to micro manage them or even worse start a spreadsheet to log the exact usage / charging times. Don't nail them down to the voltage limit and you'll have nothing to worry about. That said, if they've been chucked in the drawer for a while and generally not looked after then i would treat myself to a new set. As stated the IPV3 is a regulated mod so you would assume that the safety features would kick in before any major issues, plus it has a battery charge indicator.

No reason to micro manage them. I date and # them so that I can keep up with how long they last. Here is a pic of a numbered pair dated 9/14 I put in the ipv3
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I'd be cautious about buying vtc5's no reputable vendor has had or will have legitimate / authentic vtc5's in stock for quite some time.
There are many fakes on the market with various known and a few unknown lower quality / lesser cdr cells re wrapped as vtc5.

Yes and my local vape shop is a verified vender and bought a truckload straight from sony a while back. He even showed me the receipt cuz I didn't believe him. I trust only one vape shop in my town and these guys are on the forums and are very knowledgable, honest, and legit.
 

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Yes and my local vape shop is a verified vender and bought a truckload straight from sony a while back. He even showed me the receipt cuz I didn't believe him. I trust only one vape shop in my town and these guys are on the forums and are very knowledgable, honest, and legit.

Sony doesn't do anything like "verifying vendors". They made an extremely limited amount of VTC5's and people were quick to scoop the last ones up about 6 months ago.

I'd be really cautious, I've seen dozens of fake VTC5's being sold from good B&M's. Also, the LG's (red) and the Efests (purple) are pretty damn good, and I don't worry nearly as much about it being a rewrap. Although I've suspected my Efest of being a re-wrapped LG since the beginning lol..
 

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Sony doesn't do anything like "verifying vendors". They made an extremely limited amount of VTC5's and people were quick to scoop the last ones up about 6 months ago.

I'd be really cautious, I've seen dozens of fake VTC5's being sold from good B&M's.

I am cautious and I agree. What I'm saying is he showed me the receipt from the vtc5 purchase. It was back around spring time. I trust these guys. I talk with them weekly. They do not carry any clones on batteries. He only buys from verified venders like RTD Vapor and verified battery sellers that have been mentioned in stickies.
 

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Sony hasn't produced a single 18650 battery since the March 11 2011 earthquake that caused the tsunami which resulted in the Fukushima disaster.

The world of shipping/import just flat isnt as big as most folks think it is.
Sony has very strict / controlled shipping requirements and very advanced shipment tracking methods. Transportation companies that have contracts with legitimate Sony importers/brokers have access to their tracking & product movement software.

I can't tell you if they are real/ authentic Sony vtc5 batteries though if there was a truckload in Texas I'd know about it, but, if they are they are at least 1315 days old now. (3 years 7 months and 5 days)

As long as you are convinced they are legit I guess that is all that matters.
Good luck.
 
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Parallel would not allow you to get any additional battery life.

Parallel means the voltage adds up. 2x 4.2v batteries will output 8.4v.

Also the IPV3 has buckdown/stepup (or is it buckup/stepdown idk). The chip uses the batteries more efficiently, adjusting voltage/wattage to the life of your batteries.

Surprised this wasn't caught...it's backwards. Two cells in series doubles the voltage, while two cells in parallel doubles the mAh. The ipv3 is a bucking device, so to get the stated voltage range series is the only option.

Fwiw, I have been sitting on an untouched pair of authentic vtc5 batteries for a couple months just waiting for this mod to finally arrive, and I have a back-up pair of orbtronic 30 amp batteries on the way. Why take chances? A few bucks for new batteries is priceless in terms of peace of mind.
 

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Sony hasn't produced a single 18650 battery since the March 11 2011 earthquake that caused the tsunami which resulted in the Fukushima disaster.

The world of shipping/import just flat isnt as big as most folks think it is.
Sony has very strict / controlled shipping requirements and very advanced shipment tracking methods. Transportation companies that have contracts with legitimate Sony importers/brokers have access to their tracking & product movement software.

I can't tell you if they are real/ authentic Sony vtc5 batteries though if there was a truckload in Texas I'd know about it, but, if they are they are at least 1315 days old now. (3 years 7 months and 5 days)

As long as you are convinced they are legit I guess that is all that matters.
Good luck.

I exaggerated when I said truckload. I just meant he ordered a good bit of them and luckily I live in a smaller town so not many people use mods. Mostly just e-cigs so he still have a few left from a while back.
 

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See, I don't know why everyone wouldn't just understand/agree to this.

Odds are you won't experience battery venting, even in EXTREME situations, but you're not helping reduce the chances by ignoring simple things like rotating batteries, ensuring they're married, etc.


My state is not very progressive, I don't think it's legal for them to be married here. :)
 

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Surprised this wasn't caught...it's backwards. Two cells in series doubles the voltage, while two cells in parallel doubles the mAh. The ipv3 is a bucking device, so to get the stated voltage range series is the only option.

Fwiw, I have been sitting on an untouched pair of authentic vtc5 batteries for a couple months just waiting for this mod to finally arrive, and I have a back-up pair of orbtronic 30 amp batteries on the way. Why take chances? A few bucks for new batteries is priceless in terms of peace of mind.

Yeah, I saw it, just didn't think it was worth commenting on because everybody already knew the real deal. I mean otherwise, why would the selling point of the IPV3 be 150W and not "double battery life"?
 

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See, I don't know why everyone wouldn't just understand/agree to this.

Odds are you won't experience battery venting, even in EXTREME situations, but you're not helping reduce the chances by ignoring simple things like rotating batteries, ensuring they're married, etc.

I agree man. I'm about to purchase the Sigelei 100 watt and I'm going to buy 2 Sony VTC4's specifically for that mod. Mark them with the date and number them so I can rotate them on each charge. I know I don't have to do all that but if it makes the chance of having a catastrophic failure less than I'm going to do it. I value my fingers and face way too much to lose them. I'd rather be safe than sorry I guess. I don't know why everyone would want to do this. Maybe to save a few dollars and not buy new batteries or just ignorance to the whole safety side of vaping. Idk. :2c:
 

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Great info on this thread. I haven't read every page, but something that really helped me out here back page 2:
NO!

You got those batteries at the same time, but you've been using them individually in mods. Meaning it's virtually GUARANTEED that one has more battery sag than another, meaning the voltage will drop faster on one than it will on the other, meaning a potential catastrophic failure!

If you're going to use a box that requires stacked batteries, make sure you're doing it safely. Use batteries that you KNOW you purchased at the same time, ideally in their original packaging from the manufacturer so you can be sure they've never been used/charged prior to your purchase.

I'm stuck between the IPV3 and the Sig100w. I just bought 2 more VTC5s from my vape shop a few hours ago ($34 after tax), that I plan to use on my mod when I buy it. I heard vtc5s may be discontinued so now I have 3 of them. But I was unaware that you should use the same 2 batteries for one of these mod's - each bought on.the same date, with the same number of charge cycles on them. I thought they should just both have about the same battery life left.
.... So I'm glad I haven't used either of the 2 new ones I got yet, I'll save them! And I'll write a date on them.
I won't use them til I get the mod, but should I charge them both fully before using? And you guys mark the amount of charge cycles on each battery, with tally's?


I was leaning towards the Sig, until I saw the IPV3 goes down to 7watts instead of 10w, and much lower voltage than the Sig (higher too I believe?). I want.a mod I can use on ALL my atty's - my Kanger tanks (w/ sub-ohm coils @ low.volts, dual & single coils, rebuilt microcoils), my RDA's/drippers of.course w/ many diff builds; and a kayfun-type and or genny tanks n RSST's if I ever get any of those..
.... Wish the.IPV3 had the Sig's fire button, and.looked more sleek like the IPV2's that my friends have. What's the point of the non-functional touch sensor?
Ha and I hope the 3 will fit in my pocket!!
:)
 

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Great info on this thread. I haven't read every page, but something that really helped me out here back page 2:


I'm stuck between the IPV3 and the Sig100w. I just bought 2 more VTC5s from my vape shop a few hours ago ($34 after tax), that I plan to use on my mod when I buy it. I heard vtc5s may be discontinued so now I have 3 of them. But I was unaware that you should use the same 2 batteries for one of these mod's - each bought on.the same date, with the same number of charge cycles on them. I thought they should just both have about the same battery life left.
.... So I'm glad I haven't used either of the 2 new ones I got yet, I'll save them! And I'll write a date on them.
I won't use them til I get the mod, but should I charge them both fully before using? And you guys mark the amount of charge cycles on each battery, with tally's?


I was leaning towards the Sig, until I saw the IPV3 goes down to 7watts instead of 10w, and much lower voltage than the Sig (higher too I believe?). I want.a mod I can use on ALL my atty's - my Kanger tanks (w/ sub-ohm coils @ low.volts, dual & single coils, rebuilt microcoils), my RDA's/drippers of.course w/ many diff builds; and a kayfun-type and or genny tanks n RSST's if I ever get any of those..
.... Wish the.IPV3 had the Sig's fire button, and.looked more sleek like the IPV2's that my friends have. What's the point of the non-functional touch sensor?
Ha and I hope the 3 will fit in my pocket!!
:)

Lol, I've had no problems fitting the IPV3 in my pocket, but I wear "fat-boy" pants, so I have rather large pockets.

I don't think it's necessary to mark the number of charge cycles w/ tallies, but I do rotate my "a1" and "a2", keeping them separate from "b1" and "b2". My A batteries are used in my OKL-T20 box, and my B batteries are used in my IPV3. Because I can't guarantee I've charged my A batteries as many times as my B batteries, I can't mix and match a1 and b1 or anything. They're 2 separate pairs, and can't be mixed.

It's also important that, upon first charge, go all the way. That first charge will determine your future battery life/battery quality. The second charge is also important, don't drain your batteries below 3.9v.

Also, and there really should be a PSA about this, VTC5's haven't been produced for about a full year, maybe more. So what you have are very likely re-wrapped VTC4's or LG's or Efests. Just keep that in mind.
 

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Lol, I've had no problems fitting the IPV3 in my pocket, but I wear "fat-boy" pants, so I have rather large pockets.

I don't think it's necessary to mark the number of charge cycles w/ tallies, but I do rotate my "a1" and "a2", keeping them separate from "b1" and "b2". My A batteries are used in my OKL-T20 box, and my B batteries are used in my IPV3. Because I can't guarantee I've charged my A batteries as many times as my B batteries, I can't mix and match a1 and b1 or anything. They're 2 separate pairs, and can't be mixed.

It's also important that, upon first charge, go all the way. That first charge will determine your future battery life/battery quality. The second charge is also important, don't drain your batteries below 3.9v.

Also, and there really should be a PSA about this, VTC5's haven't been produced for about a full year, maybe more. So what you have are very likely re-wrapped VTC4's or LG's or Efests. Just keep that in mind.

Ipv3 is a beast and works with anything I have. I would recommend it over the Sig. I love mine and happy I purchased it. I do not mark my batteries with tallies but I do mark Left and Right so I can rotate them between charges. That's all that is recommended. Pull the trigger on the ipv3, who needs a touch sensor anyways? No other mod has it.
 
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