New Kanger Box Mod- The Subox

[alicewonderland]

o wow they have dissapeared, i dont see the vs clones on fasttech anymore, maybe it will give vaporshark a nudge in the .... to get their fit and finish on their models worked out, the only negative i had of it is the finish never held up without some overobsessive babying

 

[miro011]

those who ordered from vape street , ME will get it shipped on 1st of June

 

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[ephilbe]

In other news, Vapor Shark clones and Flask clones have disapeared due to a design patent by Vapor Shark. I'm not looking forward to patent wars.

I've often wondered how patent copyrights worked on a global scale. Is it a prosecutable offense, or would the offender subside production out of some kind of mutual respect? Perhaps threat? It's hard for me to wrap my head around such global economics.

 

[miro011]

im inlove with this new RBA man , its exactly what ever RTA should be

 

[miro011]

juice channels comming from the bottom are old and not as reliable as this

 

[kamran321]

When is it coming out in the uk?

 

[Azarias]

The lack of temperature control feature on the Subox was a serious criticism. Really? IMO, I'd just like manufacturers to work on delivering a 50w device that was safe to charge and didn't autofire first. How about that?

You'll always find people who criticize the lack of a certain feature in new devices. I'm pretty sure some reviewers expect every new mod to have TC. And then they expect the TC in a $40 mod to work as accurate as in the SX Mini M.

EDIT:
Here's a longer review. 53min.

 

[alicewonderland]

i need this to come out already before i end up spending all my money for this month. my palms are so itchy

 

[aikanae1]

When is it coming out in the uk?

Usually you get yours before we get ours.

 

[aikanae1]

i need this to come out already before i end up spending all my money for this month. my palms are so itchy

LOL. Itchy paws are a sign of furballs between the pads.

 

[aikanae1]

I've often wondered how patent copyrights worked on a global scale. Is it a prosecutable offense, or would the offender subside production out of some kind of mutual respect? Perhaps threat? It's hard for me to wrap my head around such global economics.

Don't take my word for it because I'm not in the professional field to know and there's a lot of opinions. It's uneven. The US takes the view that if a product has a US market then US laws apply. So you can be legal in your country, but extradicted to the US and charged for breaking US law. A corporation would face fines of peenies on the dollar, a private person could face criminal charges. Enter the TPP and you've got "corporate sovereignty". Trolling is another issue. The TPP sets up international "tribunals" that can sue governments.

There's been a lot of developmnt on forums like these and very few protections. Patents are individual so they don't cover community development or message boards as prior art. That leaves vaping kinda wide open to whoever files first. Anyone have a patent on using a box yet? 11 companies are charged for using the 510 connection. Can you imagine the lack of progress if everyone had to use a different connection system? I guess everyone has to develop their own temperature control system. I heard (did not check out) that Innokin's will only work with their atty's.

I'm just a casual observer of this stuff and it's one of those things that affects us all constatly. The TPP agreement turns things upside down. Wikipedia is one place to read more.

 

[aikanae1]

I've seen the price of the black subtanks coming and they aren't cheap. They make this kit sound like a steal. Looks like Kanger is releasing nickle 0.15 coils for them too. Will there be a later release of the Subox with temp. control? Probably. But it's not goinng to devalue this kit. Kanger knows this market.

 

[hashtag]

You would think TC has to be next for Kanger. The fact they are making the coils says they already are eyeing the market. Hopefully not too soon though. I hate when my gear is outdated in a month.

 

[IXIShogunR1]

i'm still holding out on the TC stuff, but if kanger did make an affordable TC mod i might give it a shot
but i am still thinking about an all black IPV4 as a possibility

 

[hashtag]

i'm still holding out on the TC stuff, but if kanger did make an affordable TC mod i might give it a shot
but i am still thinking about an all black IPV4 as a possibility

I almost got an IPV 4 yesterday but the site I went to was sold out. I'm on the fence about TC but when the deal is right I'm sure I'll end up with one. My ability to avoid new tech can only hold out so long.

 

[yuseffuhler]

I see temp control as being the future of vaping, but I'm not willing to be the guinea pig and fiddle with everything to get it to work right now. I'll wait for a bit until they're just as cheap as my other mods and work just as well with about as much fuss.

 

[hashtag]

That is probably smart. Every thread about TC devices is about them not reading their coils correctly. Seems like the tech is almost there but not quite.

 

[yuseffuhler]

Wow. It's slowed down in here. I spent too much time reading about temperature control (I haven't been paying attention to it). Still seems gimmicky to me or not quite ready for prime time. There's a couple mods coming that will read all sorts of wire. One of them just allows a user to adjust after a vape to their "best taste". The Innokin one sounds like it allows kanathal in addition to nickle. Not exactlly all wires and it requires special atty's in addition to wires. The joyetech one is propietary and no one knows for sure yet - well, maybe since I didn't check that thread.

The lack of temperature control feature on the Subox was a serious criticism. Really? IMO, I'd just like manufacturers to work on delivering a 50w device that was safe to charge and didn't autofire first. How about that?

It appears that the main push for temperature control is an attempt to deliver a standardized vape and satisfy FDA concerns about open systems. Basically what temps are ingredients safe to vaporize at. Right now, everything is vaped at all sorts of temperatures and there's no way to monitor any kind of a feedback system. Temp. control is a way to say this is safe at this temp. and that is safe at that temp. Basically, ordering tc now is taking a hit for science and the community as they figure it out. But then I wasn't impressed with HD either. Wait a week and I could change my mind.

TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance | E-Cigarette Forum

In other news, Vapor Shark clones and Flask clones have disapeared due to a design patent by Vapor Shark. I'm not looking forward to patent wars.

I'd take the claim of being able to use temperature control with kanthal with a healthy dose of skepticism. The reason nickel and titanium work as well as they do is because of a greater and more predictable variance in resistance relative to temperature. Anytime kanthal is claimed, it means that they've beaten evolv and yihi. It could be, but I wouldn't hold my breath.