New Kanger Box Mod- The Subox
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I asked this earlier today in the general vaping forum and haven't gotten any response so I thought this might be a better place to ask this question;
I just bought the Kanger sub box mini and LOVE it. I have only been using the 1.2 coils. My normal nicotine strength is 12 mg.
I am coming from having using the joy tech Ego one. I had tried the .5 coil on that once. I absolutely detested it. The vape was so hot. And it just was difficult( even with a 3 mg strength which is what someone suggested)
When I was in the vape store yesterday, someone said try this:
They gave me a sub tank nano with some juice in at and the .5 coil And I 'think ' 3 mg, and I tried it on my kanger sub box mini and I loved it.
It was not that different from my normal vape being on a 1.2 could ..but the flavor was absolutely amazing.
And… It 'seemed 'as if I was able to do my normal mouth to lung hit.
Problem is I don't remember what wattage they had set the subox.on.
My question is this:
Is my experience with this because when I had previously tried it on my ego one the temperature was just too high and such a hot vape, as it can only fire at 4.2 V and can't be changed?
And also it seemed like the vapor was goung right into my lungs with the ego one, and I could not change that. While doing it on the joy tech, it was terrific..was extremely pleasant.. and it seemed like my normal mouth to lung..
Many thanks for your help..
I asked this earlier today in the general vaping forum and haven't gotten any response so I thought this might be a better place to ask this question;
I just bought the Kanger sub box mini and LOVE it. I have only been using the 1.2 coils. My normal nicotine strength is 12 mg.
I am coming from having using the joy tech Ego one. I had tried the .5 coil on that once. I absolutely detested it. The vape was so hot. And it just was difficult( even with a 3 mg strength which is what someone suggested)
When I was in the vape store yesterday, someone said try this:
They gave me a sub tank nano with some juice in at and the .5 coil And I 'think ' 3 mg, and I tried it on my kanger sub box mini and I loved it.
It was not that different from my normal vape being on a 1.2 could ..but the flavor was absolutely amazing.
And… It 'seemed 'as if I was able to do my normal mouth to lung hit.
Problem is I don't remember what wattage they had set the subox.on.
My question is this:
Is my experience with this because when I had previously tried it on my ego one the temperature was just too high and such a hot vape, as it can only fire at 4.2 V and can't be changed?
And also it seemed like the vapor was goung right into my lungs with the ego one, and I could not change that. While doing it on the joy tech, it was terrific..was extremely pleasant.. and it seemed like my normal mouth to lung..
Many thanks for your help..
Hi @Sergiu1967, welcome to the Subox thread. I don't know that I can answer all of your questions, but tell you my own experience. First, using a 0.5 ohm coil at 4.2V is 35W. That's pretty hot, especially for a smaller device. Like you, I started out with pen style devices, only they were from Kanger. When I used those devices due to their limitations, I vaped mouth to lung, with 24mg juice. When I got a variable voltage mod, this made things much easier as I could adjust the temperature of the vapor. I went up through the Kanger product line to the Aero tanks, which provided air flow control. About the same time, companies like Eleaf were coming out with box mods that negated the need for setting voltage, but instead had the ability to read the ohm setting of the coil, then adjust the voltage to match your desired wattage setting. There are some subjective and personal taste options when it comes to using either a 0.5 ohm coil or a 1.2 ohm coil. But regardless of the coil size, using the newer mods, the same wattage setting on either should provide similar vapor. When I use a pre-built coil in the Subox, I prefer a 1.2 ohm coil, because I think it gives me the best flavor. But again, this is subjective and others may prefer the 0.5 ohm coil for the same or different reason. Lastly, when I started using the Kanger Subtank and the Subox, I changed my vaping style. Until then, I was always a mouth to lung vaper, now I exclusively do direct to lung, with the air flow wide open and have had to adjust my nicotine level to 6mg. Several of my friends and family use the Subox in a mouth to lung style, by adjusting the air flow controller down, making the Subox more like the Aero. Sorry for the verbose response, I didn't the time to make it shorter. I hope this helps.
Maybe try starting at 15 watts and tweak it from there (with either head)...that's about where the 1.2 on your eGo one is. You can't rely solely on the numbers though, because they're two different mods that probably differ in accuracy and how they handle power. But if you start at 15 and play around with it from there, you should be able to match them up pretty closely.
...I think that will work with the 0.5. Does anyone know if the KBox Mini steps down? That works out to 2.8V, way below the battery's lower limit.
...but then I suck at math, so...
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Maybe try starting at 15 watts and tweak it from there (with either head)...that's about where the 1.2 on your eGo one is. You can't rely solely on the numbers though, because they're two different mods that probably differ in accuracy and how they handle power. But if you start at 15 and play around with it from there, you should be able to match them up pretty closely.
...I think that will work with the 0.5. Does anyone know if the KBox Mini steps down? That works out to 2.8V, way below the battery's lower limit.
...but then I suck at math, so...
...I think that will work with the 0.5. Does anyone know if the KBox Mini steps down? That works out to 2.8V, way below the battery's lower limit.
...but then I suck at math, so...
Yes, the KBox Mini does step down. That's one of the great features of this mod (and many others), you set the power you want (watts) and the electronics in the mod takes care of adjusting it to the correct voltage, based on the ohm level of the coil, even if it less than the current voltage of the battery.
Even if math is not your thing, there's a handy on-line ohms law calculator at Steam Engine.
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Steam Engine!
Actually I double-checked my numbers in Steam Engine, but I never know if I'm inputting stuff right, so I do rough calcs to make sure.
Stepdown. Awesome!
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I use Vaporcalc for android.Steam Engine!
Actually I double-checked my numbers in Steam Engine, but I never know if I'm inputting stuff right, so I do rough calcs to make sure.
Stepdown. Awesome!
I've been using the wrong tab in Steam Engine all this time! Yay, no more math!
VaporCalc - Android Apps on Google Play
...I think that will work with the 0.5. Does anyone know if the KBox Mini steps down? That works out to 2.8V, way below the battery's lower limit.
...but then I suck at math, so...
That is one of the things they are fixing. The buck converter is currently tuned to mean not rms.
That said I can't imagine many people using a 0.5ohm coil at below 10W.
Indeed, I'm waiting for the supposed fix coming for "mean", as well as adjustable 510 pin. You would think by now these companies would already know reviewers put these devices on scopes, as well as looking at all the basic features, and not release them without these features. Yes, most of us are not stupid, and we read and watch such reviews. Even one of the vendors I use for good prices on coils, WOV, has a note on their site regarding Kanger products constantly doing fast updates to their initial product releases. If you were a vendor that alone creates huge stock and customer service issues.
I'm also confused about the newest Kanger Kbox, the new Nano. Not interested in the two colors offered, but am curious if the battery section is the same size as the black Kbox Mini, or smaller? For the most part I like Kanger, they just seem to get a bit ahead of themselves.
I'm also confused about the newest Kanger Kbox, the new Nano. Not interested in the two colors offered, but am curious if the battery section is the same size as the black Kbox Mini, or smaller? For the most part I like Kanger, they just seem to get a bit ahead of themselves.
I haven't seen much info about the subox nano kit, just the photo that surfaced a while ago. But the kbox in that kit is described as the kbox nano, and if I look at it closely then I see the device curving outwards in the area where the 18650 battery goes. Since the device seems flush with the tank, I would conclude that they've made the tank side of the kbox nano thinner, but overall there aren't that many dimensions they can shrink.
Yeah, it was tough to see, but I agree, the body looks to have a curve, didn't think they could make an 18650 mod any smaller. I had a tiny one, the Clouper, but returned it, safety concerns. If this Nano kit does not come with an RBA, I'll skip it anyways. I had the now older Kanger Nano tank which was 18mm, nice size, but now that I got into rebuilding, the 22mm kit is what I'll likely buy when and if they make the supposed updates to the battery section, I think it may be a reason you are now seeing the current kits going for as low as $50.
@OcalaFlGuy have you taken apart the new vertical OCC yet, and or rebuilt one? I just got to a point with my 1st .5 coil that it spits horribly. I can burn some of it off with a quick dry fire (firing without pulling) but it ends up spitting at me. It is time for me to tear down and build back up, if able. Anyone else have insight for a rebuild? Did kanger purposely redesign them to make it harder to rebuild (my assumption as it just seems harder on 1st glance)?
No I haven't but Cheech has rebuilt a Vertical GS Air coil. He said it wasn't worth the extra effort. I *believe* he said the verticals can be rebuilt as the usual single BC. There certainly is no loss with the GS going from dual to a single coil.
I did take all the old wrap and wicking from a GS Air dual coil, dry burned the coil and rewicked and wrapped it. It tasted horrible.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
I did take all the old wrap and wicking from a GS Air dual coil, dry burned the coil and rewicked and wrapped it. It tasted horrible.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
What's seen cannot be unseen....Well, I think I can get in the spirit of things here. For tonight only....I reveal myself unto those who vape.
Oops....it's gone.
LOl, I guess what happens in ECF stays in ECF.
I think the vertical coil was released to maximize airflow and compensate for the extra wattage vapers are using. If you like a vertical build your best bet is going to be to use the rba. I have a tut a few pages back. I still haven't seen a successful rebuild of the vertical occ.
Unless you are me. Then it is all over ECF, ECR, and YouTube.LOl, I guess what happens in ECF stays in ECF.
Edit : also, screenshots
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