New Ovale eGo-C changeble system.

[Saerjin]

I got the tobacco flavor too, TOB-M and it is pretty good.......
You can also take the top cap off and the plate below that if you want to, some say it vapes better if you leave the plate out completely, you can always put it back in if wanted, so experiment.

I also recieved Tob-M and quite like it, I haven't had any tobacco liquids in over a year so I was a bit skeptical of it.

As for the 2 plugs or caps or whatever you want to call them, I've noticed significantly less condensation build up with them taken out. Which in turn has mitigated the amount of leak i've gotten which I am fairly sure it's due to condensation build up from the cone shape. That said though, the rubber caps they put with the kit have been a very bad experience for me and have caused my atty to just get completely flooded.

Still really wanting a cylinder tank though.

 

[Kent C]

From some t leaks.... If you have a leak - remove the tank and blow out the mouthpiece - chances are you have some juice in the airways. Clean. Turn the atty upside down - you should get some excess come out. (with the c you'd want to just remove the head and clean the atty inside up as well as the holder - I haven't had to do this but with the T, I blow out the atty from the batt end and then put it back on a tailpipe any excess.) Clean up all, fill the tank (it's 1/4 tanks that can leak) and restart.

If that doesn't fix, then you need a wicking adjustment - either adding more wick or adjusting the placement of the wicking in the spike. I've had about 6 leakers with the T's since last December. I also split up my vaping between at least two pv when out and among 6+ at home - including a mini reo and a big brother. That allows things to cool down and hold viscosity. Powervaping on PV will kill viscosity and you'll be more prone to leaks. I'm vaping VG - I don't say '100% VG' because the blending VG is cut with H2O, the VG nic base is partially nic and the flavor base is varied - flavors themselves aren't VG but some of the base is, depending on your vendor or flavor maker - it could be pg, pg/vg and some alcohol and/or water to make the base flavoring soluable.

 

[bunwabit]

Thanks for all the advice, I wiped my cone out really good today before changing tanks to make sure there was no juice or condensation I pushed my tank in extra hard and I'm vaping happy today maybe it was luck or maybe that helped but today no leaks. Keeping my fingers crossed it stays this way.

 

[RedZone]

Thanks for all the advice, I wiped my cone out really good today before changing tanks to make sure there was no juice or condensation I pushed my tank in extra hard and I'm vaping happy today maybe it was luck or maybe that helped but today no leaks. Keeping my fingers crossed it stays this way.

Sure hope so bunwabit, the entire reason I went to a "Tank" system was for minimal "Muss and Fuss"! I love how easily these Atty's switch over to flavor change outs so quickly. I do have one atty dedicated for Red Hotz, as it will permanently permeate any Atty that juice touches. But my other LR Atty, I've done about 8 flavor change outs over the last week. Alternating between straight fruit flavors, fruit/baked combos, and baked flavors - Snickerdoodle, Bananas Fosters Coffee, etc. The Velvet Vapors juice I recently purchased seems much thinner than the mix that I get from Ms T's.. But, no leakage problems.. The one silicone tank cap I've used is showing some wear from temperature, and I'm going to swap it out soon. Hope the trouble-free vaping continues...

 

[wyojoe]

I also recieved Tob-M and quite like it, I haven't had any tobacco liquids in over a year so I was a bit skeptical of it.

As for the 2 plugs or caps or whatever you want to call them, I've noticed significantly less condensation build up with them taken out. Which in turn has mitigated the amount of leak i've gotten which I am fairly sure it's due to condensation build up from the cone shape. That said though, the rubber caps they put with the kit have been a very bad experience for me and have caused my atty to just get completely flooded.

Still really wanting a cylinder tank though.

What kind of tank are you wanting?? Don't know maybe something like the Dual coil 510 tank from MadVapes?? I use tanks and love them. But I do like the eGo-C's for out of the house use, they are smaller than the tanks to carry around in you pocket, so I like the smaller size and the C tanks hold quite a bit of juice, and it is a clean system with no filler material to burn. So I really like both systems and they are my number one favorites for now, I have tried alot of different systems, and these 2 are my fav's. JUST FOR INFO, I like the single coils better in the tanks but you will need to look around for a single Stainless Steel coil carto the same length as the Dual Coil carto's and punch your own hole in it with a pointed nail or a (pointed deck screw,that what I use) or learn to use a saddle valve from a hardware store, That's the best in my opinion for punching a hole in the carto, its more consistent for the hole size.

 

[Kent C]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ot-my-ego-c-lr-attys-today-3.html#post4696567

 

[sammy43]

I wanted to follow up with some suggestions I got from Trevor today at Ovale USA. I spoke to him on the phone earlier and asked some questions about leaking, LR atty's and the soft caps. He had a few suggestions on leaking as related to the power of your draw on the C and explained a bit about how the eGo-C was designed in an effort to prevent leaks.

Suggestions to avoid leaking for the eGo-C
I have had fairly good luck with virtually no leaking until the last couple days and have had a couple leaking issues. Trevor explained that some eGo-C customers were apparently use to puffing cartos and a harder draw. This is certainly the case for me as I pull pretty hard when I take a puff. I also have dropped down to 6mg nic from 12mg the last couple days and think I was puffing harder trying to compensate.

Trevor explained that a better technique for the eGo-C was to use a softer draw but to pull for a bit longer. In other words instead of drawing strong for 3 seconds extend this out to maybe five seconds but use less puff pressure to get about the same amount of vapor. He further explained the way the eGo-C is designed is to create a vacuum when you take a puff and this channels juice down to the atty. Too hard or too long of a puff and the atty may wick an excess amount of juice resulting in a flood. This extra juice will get pulled up out of the atty and into the cone if the atty is flooded.

Another thing he mentioned was that some customers were removing the tip plugs and the second insert inside the tank tip. This changes the draw pressure and may also result in leaking. He advised against removing these as the draw pressure would increase too much.

Another thing I was likely doing wrong is an eGo-T draw technique I think I saw on youtube. This is where you continue to draw for a second or two after letting go of the button to wick juice in for the next puff. Trevor advised against this draw technique for the C model stating it may result in too much juice wicking into the atty. He suggested releasing the button at the same time or just after you stop puffing.

Edit to add: Trevor just emailed and added another bit of info regarding tank levels. Low levels may cause leaking. When the tank is close to empty. There isn't enough liquid/pressure/surface tension to keep the liquid inside the tank. As a result gravity and the spike of the atomizer head may create enough force to break the surface tension. Fill the tanks when they get down below 1/3 full or so. I think KentC mentioned something about this earlier in this thread.

Since I have applied these suggestions from Trevor through the afternoon and evening I have had zero issues with leaking! I am even using the old tank I was having the problem with and so far it is working nicely.

LR Atty for the eGo-C
Trevor mentioned the faster juice vaporizing rate of the LR atty for the C. This may also help if you are a power vaper and want a bigger, stronger hit. The designers settled on 1.8 ohms as a sort of a sweet spot with no juice burning but still with good flavor and vapor. He also mentioned that using the softer, longer draw technique I mentioned above is important with this atty as well since they heat up a little faster. If you are looking for a bigger hit these are likely the way to go.

Soft Caps
Ovale is getting the soft tank caps in stock soon in a 10 pack I think he said for like $1.99. This is like .20 cents each!

Just wanted to pass this info along. Hope this helps some C users that are having some issues. I gotta say I am very much enjoying mine!

 

[RedZone]

I wanted to follow up with some suggestions I got from Trevor today at Ovale USA. I spoke to him on the phone earlier and asked some questions about leaking, LR atty's and the soft caps. He had a few suggestions on leaking as related to the power of your draw on the C and explained a bit about how the eGo-C was designed in an effort to prevent leaks.

Suggestions to avoid leaking for the eGo-C
I have had fairly good luck with virtually no leaking until the last couple days and have had a couple leaking issues. Trevor explained that some eGo-C customers were apparently use to puffing cartos and a harder draw. This is certainly the case for me as I pull pretty hard when I take a puff. I also have dropped down to 6mg nic from 12mg the last couple days and think I was puffing harder trying to compensate.

Trevor explained that a better technique for the eGo-C was to use a softer draw but to pull for a bit longer. In other words instead of drawing strong for 3 seconds extend this out to maybe five seconds but use less puff pressure to get about the same amount of vapor. He further explained the way the eGo-C is designed is to create a vacuum when you take a puff and this channels juice down to the atty. Too hard or too long of a puff and the atty may wick an excess amount of juice resulting in a flood. This extra juice will get pulled up out of the atty and into the cone if the atty is flooded.

Another thing he mentioned was that some customers were removing the tip plugs and the second insert inside the tank tip. This changes the draw pressure and may also result in leaking. He advised against removing these as the draw pressure would increase too much.

Another thing I was likely doing wrong is an eGo-T draw technique I think I saw on youtube. This is where you continue to draw for a second or two after letting go of the button to wick juice in for the next puff. Trevor advised against this draw technique for the C model stating it may result in too much juice wicking into the atty. He suggested releasing the button at the same time or just after you stop puffing.

Since I have applied these suggestions from Trevor through the afternoon and evening I have had zero issues with leaking! I am even using the old tank I was having the problem with and so far it is working nicely.

LR Atty for the eGo-C
Trevor mentioned the faster juice vaporizing rate of the LR atty for the C. This may also help if you are a power vaper and want a bigger, stronger hit. The designers settled on 1.8 ohms as a sort of a sweet spot with no juice burning but still with good flavor and vapor. He also mentioned that using the softer, longer draw technique I mentioned above is important with this atty as well since they heat up a little faster. If you are looking for a bigger hit these are likely the way to go.

Soft Caps
Ovale is getting the soft tank caps in stock soon in a 10 pack I think he said for like $1.99. This is like .20 cents each!

Just wanted to pass this info along. Hope this helps some C users that are having some issues. I gotta say I am very much enjoying mine!

Thanks for the update Sammy! I use slow, long pulls as my vaping technique, which works well w/ the LR Atty's. I like to hear that Atty Crackle! BTW, the life of one of those soft silicone tank caps on the LR Atty is about a week. They eventually will leak, just to the edges eroding from the heat. I'll sacrifice $.20 a week with no issues here.

 

[wyojoe]

sammy43, thanks for sharing your info. It helpful to all of us. And will help Trevor out too, maybe not as many phone calls to him.

 

[whippetroy]

I have an ego-c and have two weeks on the atty and still going strong with zero maintenance. I am wondering what is considered a leak? I have some wetness on the tank when I refill, but always thought this was condensation. Nothing appears on the outside or the battery/atty connection.

 

[bunwabit]

Sammy43, Thank YOU!!!! I think that is valuable information. Maybe that's what I was doing, pulling to hard when I draw? I don't know. I've been taking all this advice the past few days and I've been leak free (knock on wood!)

 

[rabernet]

Sammy - great information! I have been drawing for a few seconds after releasing the power button, but haven't been experiencing leaking....or maybe I have. With thinner juices, I have noticed during daily maintenance, that I sometimes have a small amount of juice on the threads between the cone and the atty base.

I tend to hold the button until I hear a crackle, then start to draw (using the SR atties) and get more flavor that way. Have the LR's on order as of yesterday. They also shipped yesterday, so I suspect they'll be here on Monday - it's about a 2 day trek from Gainesville, FL to me.

This thread in general is a great thread for those who have the C and have questions and also for those considering the C. Early feedback indicates that this is a great PV both for those like myself that are new to vaping and also for those who have been vaping for some time.

 

[RedZone]

Sammy - great information! I have been drawing for a few seconds after releasing the power button, but haven't been experiencing leaking....or maybe I have. With thinner juices, I have noticed during daily maintenance, that I sometimes have a small amount of juice on the threads between the cone and the atty base.

I tend to hold the button until I hear a crackle, then start to draw (using the SR atties) and get more flavor that way. Have the LR's on order as of yesterday. They also shipped yesterday, so I suspect they'll be here on Monday - it's about a 2 day trek from Gainesville, FL to me.

This thread in general is a great thread for those who have the C and have questions and also for those considering the C. Early feedback indicates that this is a great PV both for those like myself that are new to vaping and also for those who have been vaping for some time.

Comparing personal experience with the "T" and what I have read from other's experiences, I agree with you 100%!
I just want to fill and vape, and so far the "C" has met those expectations. I wasn't thrilled w/ the flavor throughput using the SR Atty's, but the LR's have solved the flavor issue for me.

Yes, we've all been using the "C" system for a month or less, but it looks like Joye got it right with the new Atty Head/Cone design. The system seems to wick different thicker/thinner juices equally well, with no persistent leaking issues, or wicking issues. (The dreaded dry burn vape)..

Of course, we'll continue to update as the experience factor continues, but at a month in, I would recommend this kit to anyone new to vaping. Fill, insert tank, and vape! It just doesn't get any easier than that in the vaping world.

 

[rabernet]

Comparing personal experience with the "T" and what I have read from other's experiences, I agree with you 100%!
I just want to fill and vape, and so far the "C" has met those expectations. I wasn't thrilled w/ the flavor throughput using the SR Atty's, but the LR's have solved the flavor issue for me.

Yes, we've all been using the "C" system for a month or less, but it looks like Joye got it right with the new Atty Head/Cone design. The system seems to wick different thicker/thinner juices equally well, with no persistent leaking issues, or wicking issues. (The dreaded dry burn vape)..

Of course, we'll continue to update as the experience factor continues, but at a month in, I would recommend this kit to anyone new to vaping. Fill, insert tank, and vape! It just doesn't get any easier than that in the vaping world.

I've said in other posts I've made about the C - this is a great unit for Vaping 101. I also just wanted to fill and go. I want to get Vaping 101 down before I branch out to trying cartomizers, dual core cartomizers, tank systems (the ones with the cartos inside).

Plus, I can't imagine vaping on one flavor for so long that I'd want to commit it to one of the carto tanks, and at this point, I don't want to buy multiple carto tanks in order to rotate flavors.

Drip tipping is the only thing "at this point" that I want to try, in order to test flavors. I do have a couple pass throughs that were gifted to me with three carto's, but haven't used them YET, because I haven't found a flavor yet that I want to commit to the carto's.

And it seems like it's a lot of muss and fuss to fill the carto's, wait 20-30 minutes for them to settle, etc. Intuitively, the C tanks just seem "cleaner". No filler that the juice has to go through - no cleaning of cartos needed to re-use them. I just rinse my tanks out with warm water, blow them out, re-fill and I'm good to go!

 

[rabernet]

Question for you veterans. Ego-C is my first system and essentially my first experience vaping. How do you know when an atty is done? At this point, not interested in taking it apart and cleaning it. I do blow it out when I do tank changes.

Every now and then in the beginning, I'd get the burnt dry wick taste. I'd simply pull in the mouthpiece without engaging the battery to get juice into the atty and after one or two hits, the burnt taste would be gone.

Now, I can't tell if it's my juice (I'm still tasting new juices) or if it's the atty, I'm detecting a mild burnt taste. Started with French Toast. I changed over to French Vanilla Coffee.

I'm on Day 12 of the original atty. Is it time to give it a proper burial?

On the bright side, my LR's arrive tomorrow!!!!!

 

[RedZone]

Question for you veterans. Ego-C is my first system and essentially my first experience vaping. How do you know when an atty is done? At this point, not interested in taking it apart and cleaning it. I do blow it out when I do tank changes.

Every now and then in the beginning, I'd get the burnt dry wick taste. I'd simply pull in the mouthpiece without engaging the battery to get juice into the atty and after one or two hits, the burnt taste would be gone.

Now, I can't tell if it's my juice (I'm still tasting new juices) or if it's the atty, I'm detecting a mild burnt taste. Started with French Toast. I changed over to French Vanilla Coffee.

I'm on Day 12 of the original atty. Is it time to give it a proper burial?

On the bright side, my LR's arrive tomorrow!!!!!

If you don't want to mess with cleaning, just crack open a fresh one!
I got 8 days from my 1st LR (Didn't want to mess with it right now either)... I'm sure the Bananas Fosters Coffee was the culprit. It's a medium juice in color (Darkness). Darker juices tend to to that to Atty's. I'm sure if I remove the plate, there will be build up on the wick. But, right now, it goes into a "To possibly be cleaned" plastic bag, in my equipment box.

 

[rabernet]

If you don't want to mess with cleaning, just crack open a fresh one!
I got 8 days from my 1st LR (Didn't want to mess with it right now either)... I'm sure the Bananas Fosters Coffee was the culprit. It's a medium juice in color (Darkness). Darker juices tend to to that to Atty's. I'm sure if I remove the plate, there will be build up on the wick. But, right now, it goes into a "To possibly be cleaned" plastic bag, in my equipment box.

How'd you know it was Banana's Fosters Coffee that I vaped before the French Toast (also dark)? ;-)

I think I'm going to also have a "to possibly be cleaned" plastic bag too.

But - I still come round to the original question. How does one (aka a newbie) know when an atty needs to be replaced? Are there certain signs? Besides a burned taste?

 

[RedZone]

How'd you know it was Banana's Fosters Coffee that I vaped before the French Toast (also dark)? ;-)

I think I'm going to also have a "to possibly be cleaned" plastic bag too.

But - I still come round to the original question. How does one (aka a newbie) know when an atty needs to be replaced? Are there certain signs? Besides a burned taste?

Burnt taste most likely associated to wicking issues. My issue was degraded performance. Just wasn't getting the juice vaporizing to my liking. You may be able to burn off the wick, and get that Atty going again.

I see two distinct performance issues affecting these type Atty's:

1. Wicking (Burnt Taste).. Charred juice builds up on the wick, so juice doesn't wick to the Atty Coil
2. Lack of Vapor - Juice build up on the coil itself, excess juice pools in the Atty chamber.

Darker, heavier juices seem to be the culprit for both of these conditions. But, I'm not going to go away from my BFC flavor from Ms T's, just cause I have to replace out Atty's.. For $5, if I get a minimum of 7 days, I'm happy. I can always wait until I get 4-5 in the "Maintenance Bag" and do an hour cleanup session, and get them going again.

 

[sammy43]

Please send all your alleged toasted C attys to me. I will pay shipping. PM me for address.

No seriously I am still pretty much on my first atty and have cleaned it using the method I described earlier in this thread. I also found a method for cleaning the wick...hemostats and a lighter. Just burn the old juice off the wick and rinse the spike. I use the hemostats to hold the spike plate by the edges, not the spike itself as we don't want scratches on the spike that may cause a leak. The wick material does not burn and turns pretty much white. Rinse, dry and prime the atty coil and the wick and your back in business. I just did this wick burn a couple days ago on the atty I have been using and it is back up to par.

I think this ability to easily access the atomizer components and do this sort of maintenance is what makes the eGo-C a great PV.

I am vaping Gorilla Juice on my two week old SR C atty right now and the VTF is great! Wifey is rocking some House Blend on the other two week old atty and lovin' it with a cup of coffee.

Edit: rabernet - I didn't really answer your question. I am no veteran and have only been vaping for about 5-6 months but here are my thoughts. I think that a vapor production decrease and/or burnt flavors is a good sign that a C atty needs cleaning or replacing. I also got the burnt flavor a few times when I first got the C in between tank re-fills. I now re-prime the spike/wick with a couple of drops soaking in as I am refilling the tank. This seems to avoid the burnt flavor I was getting in between re-fills. The primer puff technique you mention should also work. Hope this helps.

 

[sammy43]

Ok...atty cleaning didn't go so well this time.

The wick was stuck/gunked to the coil and pulled right out of the spike when I took took the atty apart. This is the first C atty I started with back on 11-21-11 and it's a goner now so I got just over two weeks out if it with about three cleanings. Actually the atty is fine but I kinda did a fubar on the wick. Here is a pic before I tried to put it all back together. I flattened out the mesh material before I took the pic.

I tried to roll the wick material back up in the mesh to re-assemble it but the mesh is brittle. It was going well until I tried to get it better by un-rolling/re-rolling and the mesh just crumbled and broke in half. Dang!

I wonder if I could get some Bulli mesh and wick material and rebuild it? I wonder if the atty without the spike plate would work for dripping? Any thoughts?