new provari owner - all cartos giving e1 and e2 errors after 5 minutes of use

[jwark]

ok well I don't know what is meant by don't screw it on too tight. It's not too tight I don't think. It's screwed on all the way. I unscrewed it a little bit but same issue. I'm using a battery I bought with it from provape. An 18650, the awr one they recommended. Maybe it could be bad? As far as removing it and replacing it I've done that every night to charge it. The symptoms have always remained the same. It's clean.

Either way those numbers are odd to me. I can fire a 1.5 ohm carto on my other mods at 6 volts with no problems (except the juice taste burnt, heh).

Maybe I am not understanding but it seems like they coded in some limit to shut it off on. It's not that it can't handle the voltage it's some safeguard? How could I possibly be exceeding the voltage when the draw isn't even good because it's barely even putting out?

 

[Thompson]

I = V / R
I = 6/1.5
I = 4 amps

Too much amperage for the circuitry. That is 4 amps even, 'Vari has a 3.5 limit.

I suppose you could call it inferior, but that seems to be a rare combination.

Thats 24 watts going into a carto, I'm surprised you don't get burning?

 

[jwark]

I = V / R
I = 6/1.5
I = 4 amps

Too much amperage for the circuitry. That is 4 amps even, 'Vari has a 3.5 limit.

I suppose you could call it inferior, but that seems to be a rare combination.

Thats 24 watts going into a carto, I'm surprised you don't get burning?

Yeah sorry I realized I didn't mention that and edited my post. It does give me burning but it doesn't shut off. It actually puts that amount of power out.

 

[zapped]

Provari recommends 2.5 ohms cartos or higher on their site.It wasnt designed to run low resistance cartos/atties/or RBAs

Low resistance cartos were designed for 3.7 volt batteries like Ego's and 510 Yetis.

It may sound backwards to some but running cartos at that low of a resistance can set up a dangerous situation where youre discharging the battery at too high a rate.

Youre getting e1 and e2 errors because its unsafe and its tripping the built in protection.

Switch to higher ohm cartos and this will go away......incidentally running 3ohm cartos will GREATLY extend the time the battery lasts while in use and also its actual lifetime (the time before you have to replace the battery completely)

 

[jwark]

I've tried higher resistance cartos I personally can't stand them they do not hit well but I wonder if that is why.

 

[zapped]

I've tried higher resistance cartos I personally can't stand them they do not hit well but I wonder if that is why.

You could move up to 2 ohms cartos. Not that big of a difference but it wont show the e1 or e2 errors anymore.

 

[jasl90]

Either way those numbers are odd to me. I can fire a 1.5 ohm carto on my other mods at 6 volts with no problems (except the juice taste burnt, heh).

Bear in mind that "other mods" like the Lava Tube, Z-Max and others may not actually be delivering the voltages you set.
If they can't deliver the voltage you have set, they will simply throttle back the voltage and deliver what they are able to deliver, without throwing any kind of error. This can lead you to think you are vaping at a higher voltage than you actually are.

The ProVari, on the other hand, will either output exactly what you have set or throw an error.

This can make switching from one of "the others" to a ProVari a frustrating experience until you get used to it.

 

[jwark]

Bear in mind that "other mods" like the Lava Tube, Z-Max and others may not actually be delivering the voltages you set.
If they can't deliver the voltage you have set, they will simply throttle back the voltage and deliver what they are able to deliver, without throwing any kind of error. This can lead you to think you are vaping at a higher voltage than you actually are.

The ProVari, on the other hand, will either output exactly what you have set or throw an error.

This can make switching from one of "the others" to a ProVari a frustrating experience until you get used to it.

I really don't think that is true. I can definitely notice the difference. The hit is much more powerful on my vamo for example. It is putting out a lot more I have no doubt about that.

 

[jwark]

Bear in mind that "other mods" like the Lava Tube, Z-Max and others may not actually be delivering the voltages you set.
If they can't deliver the voltage you have set, they will simply throttle back the voltage and deliver what they are able to deliver, without throwing any kind of error. This can lead you to think you are vaping at a higher voltage than you actually are.

The ProVari, on the other hand, will either output exactly what you have set or throw an error.

This can make switching from one of "the others" to a ProVari a frustrating experience until you get used to it.

I really don't think that is true. I can definitely notice the difference. The hit is much more powerful on my vamo for example. It is putting out a lot more I have no doubt about that.

 

[jasl90]

I really don't think that is true. I can definitely notice the difference. The hit is much more powerful on my vamo for example. It is putting out a lot more I have no doubt about that.

I can't speak for the Vamo... I've never had one or touched one. I do, however, own the two I names specifically. I can put a 1.2 ohm atty on either one and them to 6 volts and they will both fire... But neither of them are delivering the set 6 volts.

As far as the Vamo "hitting harder", this would be expected if the device is calculating the voltage using the voltage "average" as opposed to the "rms".

I've also heard from others (I can't tell the difference myself) that even in rms mode these devices seem to hit harder because they are using duty cycle to pulse 6 volts to archive the desired voltage... But... Like said, I can't really tell the difference myself...

 

[justinred]

The V2 has 3.5amp/15watt ceiling so there is definitely something wrong with OP's unit.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Side note but they don't really take into account wire gauge or delivery system. While some of that info is very appropriate for cartomizers, its got a lesser place in the world of genesis.

Not sure where you are going with this? Please explain.

 

[adeline]

Not sure where you are going with this? Please explain.

I'm pretty sure that's a reference to the recommended vaping voltage chart.

It really has no bearing on the world of genesis-style atomizers.

 

[thebong24]

Bear in my mind if other device hits harder than the ProVari at the same set if voltage means tbey r throttling up...ProVari compared to other device is the most accurate in voltage output... 2.0 ohms should work fine at 4v 1.9 dual coil at 4.2v will fire fine on the ProVari... me too id recommend contacting ProVape or stay below 4v while vaping single coil carto on ProVari... just my 2c

sent from mars

 

[zapped]

OP changed it from 2 ohms to 1.5 ohms. Big difference there.

My V2 Provari will fire a 2 ohm carto...it will even fire a 1.7 ohm carto...but not a 1.5.

This is a perfect example of user error caused by someone using a device outside its design parameters.

Not only will the device have absolutely horrid battery life, Im guessing 4 hours on an 18650 but the OP will also have to buy twice as many batteries in 6 months to a year than someone using a higher resistance carto.

Thats if the excessively high drain rate doesnt cause the battery to explode outright. Theres a much higher chance of that happening in another mod without the built in protection of a Provari. Continuing along that path is playing with fire.

Solution is simple: Switch to a slightly higher ohm carto. Fault isnt with the Provari its with the OP's style of vaping/imperfect understanding of how the components all work together.

 

[Thrasher]

i have run as low as 1.3, not going anywhere with the voltasge setting but its possible to go low on a provari.

i would quit guessing and just email provape they will respond pretty quickly and tell you what they think.

 

[justinred]

Mine fires at 1.0 ohm, 3.7 volts at 3.7 amps.

 

[jwark]

OP changed it from 2 ohms to 1.5 ohms. Big difference there.

My V2 Provari will fire a 2 ohm carto...it will even fire a 1.7 ohm carto...but not a 1.5.

This is a perfect example of user error caused by someone using a device outside its design parameters.

Not only will the device have absolutely horrid battery life, Im guessing 4 hours on an 18650 but the OP will also have to buy twice as many batteries in 6 months to a year than someone using a higher resistance carto.

Thats if the excessively high drain rate doesnt cause the battery to explode outright. Theres a much higher chance of that happening in another mod without the built in protection of a Provari. Continuing along that path is playing with fire.

Solution is simple: Switch to a slightly higher ohm carto. Fault isnt with the Provari its with the OP's style of vaping/imperfect understanding of how the components all work together.

Excuse me I'm using 1.5 ohm, 2.0 ohm, and 2.5 ohm cartos. 1.5 won't even fire at 3 volts. You think it should not work at all with a 1.5 ohm carto?

It doesn't matter anyway because even with a 2.5 ohm carto it won't go above 4 volts without erroring out.

With the same battery on a 1.5 ohm carto on another mod firing at 4.5 volts I get around 18 hours battery life. Before you go spouting off about how users are doing it wrong you should check your own misinformation train you're riding.

 

[jwark]

i have run as low as 1.3, not going anywhere with the voltasge setting but its possible to go low on a provari.

i would quit guessing and just email provape they will respond pretty quickly and tell you what they think.

They responded and said it sounded like a defective board.

 

[Fury83]

They responded and said it sounded like a defective board.

That makes sense