New Super Concentrated Flavors - Part 2

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emonty

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Do you have proof of that? If so reveal it please.

Please, go and buy from who ever you think has the greatest, the best, the purest and most off all produced in the USA and just vape what you believe is good for you. This thread is about VZ flavors, if you don't like the fact that it is not made by Americans with American ingredients and send by the American postal services, I can only say: BB
 

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I don't think it's mean spirited at all. Do any of us have a clue how many chemicals we take in in our air, water, or food? And do we really want to know? We also blindly trust the FDA to protect us and they have never lied about anything, to promote chemicals in our food supply or God knows what in all the drugs they approve only to ban or recall some of those drugs or additives years later. What a joke.

Just a healthy dose of realty.

With all of the above being true, We all know of the worst conditions of Chinese products and all I'm saying is we have a better chance of getting quality products here than there. I don't rely of the government to protect me or the foods that I consume that's why I spend the extra money to buy from local producers I know and trust. And by the way, I stated that its just my personal preference, to each his own. You vape what you want and I'll vape what I want. At least all of us are vaping and not smoking.
 

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If You accuse someone of lying, You need to have proof.

China is the world's largest manufacturer of cigarettes, producing about 2.4 trillion per year or 40 percent of the world's total.
Every year 6.7 million tons of tobacco are produced throughout the world. The top producers of tobacco are China (39.6%), India (8.3%), Brazil (7.0%) and the United States (4.6%)

I doubt very much that RTS get's it locally....not saying you are lying, proof I don't have, neither do you, just common sense tells me it is not produced in the USA.
 
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China is the world's largest manufacturer of cigarettes, producing about 2.4 trillion per year or 40 percent of the world's total.
Every year 6.7 million tons of tobacco are produced throughout the world. The top producers of tobacco are China (39.6%), India (8.3%), Brazil (7.0%) and the United States (4.6%)

I doubt very much that RTS get's it locally....not saying you are lying, proof I don't have, neither do you, just common sense tells me it is not produced in the USA.

Common Sense?
 

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Besides:

All I know is that VZ flavors are top notch, you only need a small percentage of flavoring which by itself is a big plus over other flavors that are not concentrated. the proof is in the pudding: I rarely need to clean my coils, hardly any gunk get's build up on my coils. There are people who vape liquids that actually can break/crack your tank and add up to 30% flavoring!!!! you think that can be any good to your health if you inhale that into your lungs? Medical discussion is not what this thread is for. Nobody knows for sure if it is bad for you, we can only assume by the fact that we feel better. Breathing will also kill you, best is to stop living then. Just enjoy the ride, don't be so nervous about it coming from China and if you do, move on and buy what you think is good for you. After almost vaping for four years, I can say that my health has improved, I feel good and vaping has made me feel in general better. Now is that good? Best would be not to vape at all, but again what fun is that.

BTW: I get my VG, PG and NIC from a friend who has a lab and all is 100% pure, USP grade or higher. He made some test with VZ liquids and assured me that it is clean, no heavy metal traces or anything to worry about. He also stated that because you use such small amounts that there is really no problem, even if it comes out of China.
 

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R.T.S. clearly explains where they get their nicotine, and no one has given any evidence that they are lying. Your figures provide no evidence, just an unfounded opinion.
False advertising is illegal in this country and so far R.T.S. has not been found guilty of doing so. The figures You have given have nothing to do with whether nicotine is or is not extracted in the U.S.
 

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Lets try to stay on topic please. This is a VZ flavoring thread.

Sorry Vaping Zone I didn't realize when I posted my supplier that this was a VZ thread the title didn't say VZ and I just happened upon it. Please edit that post and remove that information. I would never want to insult a vendor especially in their own thread. You have good products at good prices. Please do not take offense at my choice of vaping liquid.
 

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I have been vaping vaping zone's flavors since day one with no ill effects. Give or take some where around 2 years. They were one of the first and maybe only one to offer super concentrated alcohol based flavors. Their alcohol based flavors are super concentrated only require about 2.5% flavor which is a good overall. They also now have a new line of flavors (gourmet) that only requires about 1% flavor. Less is better. Most of their products do come from overseas but also consider they have a staff of eight fulltime employees all paying taxes here in the usa and the business they generate for usps. They are a top notch full service vendor that carries products for the beginners and the diy market
 

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I vape 100% VZ flavorings, also make eliquids for many friends and only use VZ in theirs too .. we all love it. I have a gal coming to visit me tomorrow who is an ex-pat, lives in Costa Rica but comes home to Texas every 6 months ... have already made her 7 different VZ eliquids for her to try tomorrow.

I've tried flavorings from other vendors, but I always end up back with VZ because theirs is the best (except not their SC 555 .. LOL). I don't care where their flavors come from, all I care about is that I'm no longer inhaling tons of carcinogens ... and my doctors are THRILLED that I stopped smoking cigs 3 years ago, they test me all the time because I did have COPD, but my lungs have been crystal clear for nearly 3 years!

My doctors told me to keep doing whatever I am doing because I haven't even coughed or been short of breath once in those 3 years.

So do I care where VZ or anyone else gets their flavorings? No ... I care about what my doctors say!

As for anyone claiming their nic is USA made .. all nic comes from overseas (mostly from China and India) in a highly concentrated form, the USA vendors then rebottle it by adding their own VG or PG to it .. and then some of those vendors then claim it is "made in the USA". And then it is true, most of what is in the bottle was "made in the USA" .. but the nic part of it was not.
 

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I have been vaping vaping zone's flavors since day one with no ill effects. Give or take some where around 2 years. They were one of the first and maybe only one to offer super concentrated alcohol based flavors. Their alcohol based flavors are super concentrated only require about 2.5% flavor which is a good overall. They also now have a new line of flavors (gourmet) that only requires about 1% flavor. Less is better. Most of their products do come from overseas but also consider they have a staff of eight fulltime employees all paying taxes here in the usa and the business they generate for usps. They are a top notch full service vendor that carries products for the beginners and the diy market

Good to hear you haven't had any problems.!
 

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As far as American made---its generally more expensive and not necessarily superior....lol As far as the nic, let your tastebuds do the deciding and the demeanor of the vendor you choose to deal with says more to me about their likely business practices and whether I can trust anything they tell me to be true more than anything written on their website. :2c:

There is a very good thread called Nicotine Comparisons if you want to investigate further our local chemist has some good posts there along with alot of others who have compared different vendors nic for taste price etc. Utimately the source matters not if you like the product. There is no way to prove one way or the other if the source of the nicotine is a 100% american made product. In general, 100% American made is very rare. At least part of a product is usually obtained elsewhere.
 

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I would start at about 2.5% and work up from there. They tell me to keep an eye out for an expanded hangsen line coming real soon. They plan to carry most if not all of the hangsen line very soon. One thing I have noticed about the hangsen line is it requires longer steeping time than some other lines of flavor
 
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