New to E-Cig my store and a few question advice needed Please

[icehunter]

Hi All being very new to vaping 2 month using rechargeable E-cig here is my first review and questions sorry for the long post .

First version a brand call nicocig from ASDA (uk) taste very nice and cost £39 for a starter kit that held 2 batteries and a charger and carry case with a selection of 5 Cartomizer would last about day and a half on high strength . 5 Cartomizer refills for £4.85 so not too bad on cost down side was suplier after 2 week asda was stopped getting high or medium Strength,
So got a nicolite pack from the local garage cost £19.99 for 1 battery 1 usb charger 2 Cartomizer. replacement are expensive £7,99 for 3 Cartomizer and the medium strength that would last me only 2 days max taste very nice.

Now after doing research found this place and after a lot of reading have got a pack of juice testers 5 ml bottle to try different flavour and to lower Cost , so far refilling Cartomizer has not been a problem but am not sure how much to put in any advise would be welcome .
My next question is i like the style of the nicilite looks like a cig the down side is battery life not to good 4 hours max but am now thinking there must be a cheaper option than buying Cartomizer at £7.99 for 3 seem very costly and then juice

I am looking for something that will last me a day without the need to recharge or refill if possible and not too big that it looks odd any advise please

 

[recidivus]

Preamble, this is all opinion.

To start, I can't recommend any UK vendors since I haven't used any.

A fresh, completely dry standard sized carto will hold ~1mL, 20-25 drops. When the filler looks like a slushy (damp, but not wet) then it's about full. Wipe mouth end off and blow through it into a paper towel till it stops spitting out juice. Wipe the battery end and you should be golden.

For battery life, you'l want to look for at least 1000mAh. Egos are a decent go to for this. The 1000mAh ones are a bit bulky, but it's a trade off between battery life and size. Here's 3 different batteries side by side (808, EgoC 650, EgoC 1000)
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The Ego Twists add more length to accommodate the additional circuitry (~2-3cm, don't have mine beside me to measure). I'd personally recommend getting a kit that is 510 threaded, they are the most "common" and you'll have more options for add ons.

I am currently using a Vivi Nova 2.8mL tank and enjoying it quite a bit. They have replaceable heads and can be fully disassembled, cleaned, and put back together in under 10 minutes. Without VV (Variable Volt) you'll want to be using the 1.8 or 2.4 Ohm heads. I would prefer the 1.8 personally, but this is personal. The tanks tend to ship with 3 heads of varying resistance so you can test them out yourself. Everyone has their own preference. Once you have the initial tank kit heads are pretty cheap, again, location dependant (2.50-3.50 per here).

There's a LOT of different liquid deliveries that will hold a fair amount of liquid, 2-6mL. It's a tradoff off form factor and capacity. If you aren't using VV you'll want to be using Low Resistance parts. If you want to try some but don't want to buy new batteries you can generally get an adapter, if one exists for your kit. I'm not sure what threading yours are, but ### > 510 is what you'd look for. As I said earlier, if you have a 510 threaded device you won't need to get an adapter.

Others will be popping by in short order with their recommendations and possibly places to purchase locally. I'm still fairly new to all this myself and haven't used a LOT of the brands out there (especially the kiosk/gas station brands).

Welcome to ECF, stick around and keep asking questions. Things get less confusing pretty quickly, the folks here are extremely well versed and are beyond helpful.

 

[icehunter]

Thanks for a fast and informative response still working through all the info about volts and resistance , it's like i have stepped in to a different world one min i am in a supermarket and thought i try this e-cig kit from the chemist next thing i am in a hole lot of technical info i never even considered, i will never go back to normal cig i just need to get to grips with the technical stuff and find a product that work and is cost effective once again thank you.

 

[recidivus]

Yep, I've learned more about electronics and such in the past 2 months than I did in high school, though I didn't really pay much attention back then. Easy volt/res figuring out..er...ing. You want to look at watts (heat produced).

What many consider the "sweet spot" is ~6 - 8 watts. Cool, now you know around how many watts you want. You can do rough estimates pretty quickly (E2/R=P), or you can use a calculator for more precise #'s.
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp#power
3rd one down in power section. Input volts, input resistance, it spits out the watts. BAM! Ohms Law, it's not just a rule, it's the law.

 

[fourthrok]

@icehunter You might want to look into Liberty Flights UK E-Liquid - E Liquid UK - E Cig Liquid They have a wide array of different types of batteries, cartomizers and tanks to choose from with excellent prices and fast shipping. I use the American version...but I'm sure the home company in the UK is the same as here. They have the eGo type batteries, plus the smaller form factor "stick" batteries in various mAh (which indicates how long a charge should last: 650 mAh around 5 hours, 900 mAh around 8 hours and so forth) I personally like cartomizers for ease and cleanliness and durability. If you do get an eGo type battery, I'd suggest you consider a EMSCC or "eGo Mega" cartomizer in single coil (the dual coils run HOT imho...and kill a battery charge faster) I don't know if they have those at the UK site but they do at this one Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - Smok Tech Cartomizers Scroll down to the eGo Mega "B" type cartomizers on the page. But they have tanks and such at both locations. Look around!

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Icehunter I'm also in the UK

If you want better battery life then as recidivus says, you need to go for something bigger than a ciggy lookalike, which are usually only around 180 mAh. (the higher the mAh the longer the battery lasts between recharging)

This Riva 1100 mAh is really good value & from an excellent UK vendor - use discount code ECF10 for 10% off -
The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit £34.95 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

 

[icehunter]

Hi Chrissie just a quick question how offten do you find you need to replace the cartomizers thanks for the advise i will be looking at all recomendation still mind blowing on the amount of choice

 

[perpetua]

Welcome Ice . . . it depends very much on how much you vape as to how long a carto
will last you, about 10ml through it, then I find the performance peaks off.

Jason from Vape Escape, is about the most helpful Vendor on the planet, his phone
number is on his site, he's always very happy to give advice over the phone if you ring him.

 

[Chrissie]

And just to add to Perpy's post. The vision ego clearomiser that also comes with the Riva kit I linked to, will last far longer than cartomisers. Though I personally prefer using cartomisers, loads of folks prefer the vision ego clearomisers.

 

[icehunter]

The more i read the more i lose the plot lol replacment head replaceable atomiser heads and intelligent battery system.
clear tank not differant cleaning system dual or single caromister or attery i tell you some one should wright a idiots guide to this stuff . was far simply walking in to a shop and buy a pack of 20 .lol

Here was me thinking it was simply like the shop you know pick a modle buy rifills job done. ok back to reading. and thanks for a the tips and pointers

 

[Chrissie]

Icehunter, it really can be very simple - honest Where abouts in the UK are you? I'm wondering if we can find someone on AAE-C UK forum that lives close to you & can demonstrate/ let you try things out? If not, just keep asking questions.

 

[MrGypsy]

why dont you try a tank system like ego c

 

[IcedC]

Most people seem to switch to vaping from regular cigs. That being said they look towards the cigarette type "e-cigs" (Personal Vaporaziors is the prefered name as they are not cigarettes by any stretch) due to their familar style and ease of use. From there people either have a problem with teh battery life or the need to contiously buy refills or manually refill. All these accessories avilable are soloutions to either of these problems. IMHO the next step form a simple cigarette like PV would be to an ego style system with a small tank. ego type batteries are about the size of a cigar with a button to push while you inhale. You can get a small tank like a Stardust and it blends all together and it looks like a big ink pen. This set up is fairly easy to use and the tanks last a week or 2 maybe more depending on how often you use them. then they are cheap to replace ususlly under 5 dollars. from there you can really start learning about the voltages and different types of systems that will lead to more of a pleasurable vapeing experrience as opposed to simply replaceing cigarettes

here is a picture of an ego type battery with a stardust type tank/cartomizer i found using google images hope this clears your confusion

 

[icehunter]

Hi Chrissie i am in Somerset am happy to ask questions atm on look at all the info my next question is what parts are disposable ie the bit i need to replace regularly trying to work out cost of a tank solution v the e-cig in an ideal world would like a auto battery or one with a on off switch with a usb charge option and a battery life of 1 day would be nice, and a size that not too large as to look out of place for work hope that make it clear what i am trying to achieve and thats to all the responses i have have the people on here are amazing

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi icehunter and welcome to ECF. The Riva that Chrissie linked to is an excellent PV. It's identical to the Kgo. Here's a Kgo review:



Different delivery systems:
atomizer/ atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped

cartridge/ cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the atty- juice drips on to atty from cart and is vaporized

cartomizer/ carto- metal tube with stuffing and element.

carto+tank- a carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice
saturates carto by way of hole in carto.

Clearomizer- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing.

Cartomizer will last about 1 week.

Clearomizer lasts about 3-4 weeks but must be washed every few days. The rebuildable clearomizers have replaceable heads- unscrew old head and screw in new head- takes about 10 secs.

Good Luck...Chrissie really knows her stuff IMO.

 

[Chrissie]

Icehunter, Disco Desfrom AAE-C UK is in Somerset, I can't remember if he is also a member here, but if you do decide you would like some hands on help, I can give him a shout

Excellent post from Vapoor eyes er as ever Just to add to the explanation, it is the cartomisers/clearomisers that are disposable, but they can be bought so cheaply. For instance 5 boge cartomisers for about £5.99 or about £1 more for prefilled. However, the batteries should last you several months at least.

 

[icehunter]

Hi all thanks for all the hlep i have orded The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit as recommended by Chrissie am now looking at the optinon tank or carto can't wait for new kit to be delivered

 

[recidivus]

The wait is always the worst part of the vape...those few days feel like an eternity.

 

[MonoXimian]

Hi guys

I am very new to this forum but I have purchased an Innokin Itaste which needs to have the atomiser replaced every few weeks (so I am told) I was hoping that some kind soul would help me to understand what add on and mods I can do with this electronic cigarette to reduce the costs of replacing the atomiser so often. Any info or advise would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

MonoXimian

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Congrats icehunter. Best cartos I've found for my Kgo/ Riva are Boge single coil 2.00 ohm or Smok Tech 1.7 XL single coil aka The Resurrector. Dual Coil cartos are a weak vape and will drain the batt quickly. Here's a review on the Resurrector:



Carto with tank before tight draw begins last:
light juice- 80-90 ml
dark juice- 50-60 ml.

Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 80/ 20 PG/ VG only because I need the TH/ lung hit/ irritant because I'm only vaping 2 mg nicotine. I previously vaped 60/ 40 and 70/ 30 PG/ VG

Hi all thanks for all the hlep i have orded The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit as recommended by Chrissie am now looking at the optinon tank or carto can't wait for new kit to be delivered