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A few things worth mentioning. I know you're currently vaping at 37W, but not every coil needs that (ignore the "recommended" or whatever range, it's a rough, over-inflated number for marketing number). Unless you got a dud, coils should last longer than a day or two. Three things decrease coil life, sweet commercial juices, not properly priming and breaking in a coil, and too much power for the airflow and juice resulting in scorching.
That said, if you want to replace your mod with something like a Pico (great little mod, have several), at least get the Pico 25. It's just a few mm different, and will fit 25 mm tanks which are increasingly common. As for tank, I like recommending a Tobeco Super tank. Cheap, reliable, and takes any Atlantis style coil on the market so you have choices from multiple manufacturers that will fit, such as Tobeco (their notch coil 0.3 ohm is a really nice coil), Atlantis (v1 and 2), Triton (v1 and 2 full size, not mini, mini only fits a triton mini and nautilus tanks), Vaporesso ceramic coils, and Eleaf Ec coils, and some others I don't remember without more coffee. You can buy anything from a low ohm, high airflow coil if you want clouds (I know you don't, I'm just showing the useful range) to a Triton 1.8 ohm coil that tight enough for a mtl vape. You can also buy compatible coils on sale for extra savings, and with a bunch of different brands to choose from, that can be easier. It also hold 5 ml of juice, an advantage over filling a few times a day, and is top fill so when you do refill it's simple.
Priming and breaking in a coil is another important step, from the crappiest coil to the world's rare and most expensive coil. First, wet the cotton (or ceramic, or whatever) with some juice from the top on the cotton itself , and the juice holes on the sides. Assemble the tank with the coil in it. Fill and let sit for 5 or 10 minutes. Take a few unpowered draws to help feed more juice into the wick to saturate it. Leave it another few minutes. Start at really low wattage say 10W. Take a draw. Rest a minute. Go up to 13W. Take a draw. Now you'll be getting zero vapor at those settings, but hat's what you want. Keep working your way up a few watts at a time until you have the vape that you like, not what the coils says you should like. Assuming an average 0.5 ohm coil, 35-40W is probably going to be fine. it varies by preference. Big BUT, if it's a high ohm mtl coil like the 1.8 ohm Triton start super low 4-5W and go up 1W at a time as that typically works well between 8-12W for most mtl users.
Finally juice. If you're buying commercial juice it frequently has lots of sweeteners in it. Those will gunk up a coil pretty fast. Still, even with a sweet juice, proper priming and break in should give you a week or more out of a decent coil.
That said, if you want to replace your mod with something like a Pico (great little mod, have several), at least get the Pico 25. It's just a few mm different, and will fit 25 mm tanks which are increasingly common. As for tank, I like recommending a Tobeco Super tank. Cheap, reliable, and takes any Atlantis style coil on the market so you have choices from multiple manufacturers that will fit, such as Tobeco (their notch coil 0.3 ohm is a really nice coil), Atlantis (v1 and 2), Triton (v1 and 2 full size, not mini, mini only fits a triton mini and nautilus tanks), Vaporesso ceramic coils, and Eleaf Ec coils, and some others I don't remember without more coffee. You can buy anything from a low ohm, high airflow coil if you want clouds (I know you don't, I'm just showing the useful range) to a Triton 1.8 ohm coil that tight enough for a mtl vape. You can also buy compatible coils on sale for extra savings, and with a bunch of different brands to choose from, that can be easier. It also hold 5 ml of juice, an advantage over filling a few times a day, and is top fill so when you do refill it's simple.
Priming and breaking in a coil is another important step, from the crappiest coil to the world's rare and most expensive coil. First, wet the cotton (or ceramic, or whatever) with some juice from the top on the cotton itself , and the juice holes on the sides. Assemble the tank with the coil in it. Fill and let sit for 5 or 10 minutes. Take a few unpowered draws to help feed more juice into the wick to saturate it. Leave it another few minutes. Start at really low wattage say 10W. Take a draw. Rest a minute. Go up to 13W. Take a draw. Now you'll be getting zero vapor at those settings, but hat's what you want. Keep working your way up a few watts at a time until you have the vape that you like, not what the coils says you should like. Assuming an average 0.5 ohm coil, 35-40W is probably going to be fine. it varies by preference. Big BUT, if it's a high ohm mtl coil like the 1.8 ohm Triton start super low 4-5W and go up 1W at a time as that typically works well between 8-12W for most mtl users.
Finally juice. If you're buying commercial juice it frequently has lots of sweeteners in it. Those will gunk up a coil pretty fast. Still, even with a sweet juice, proper priming and break in should give you a week or more out of a decent coil.
No. The Pico only takes a single battery, I said you will need two batteries so you have a spare to use when the first dies. I'm proactive
Sorry for not being more clear.On average charging takes two or three hours. (My batteries take two, I think my son's take four)
I suggest going with the Xtar vc2 charger, it is just under 20.00 and is an excellent charger. Xtar also makes a single bay charger for just a little more than 10.00.. but it's harder to find them in stock, and they don't have the features the vc2 has..
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I'd go with the 4-bay I'm thinking, it's always useful to have that extra room. I have a nitecore 2 bay and the slides seem to be under a fair amount of tension. I haven't damaged a battery yet, but I am now exercising far more caution (and I do need to do a few rewraps, which is pretty normal I think for some of my older batteries.
Best of luck,
Anna
Best of luck,
Anna
That was my chief complaint against my now-deceased I2. It was more difficult than it should have been to get an 18650 cell in the slot. My 18500 and 18350 cells were no trouble at all. The Nitecore also recognizes all rechargeable battery chemistries, whereas most other chargers only do Lithium ion.
That old I2 lasted me nearly a decade.
For extra few bucks, get the 4 bay. I got the 2 bay convinced I'd never need anything else and had to buy a 4 bay like 3 months later.
I love my nitecore 4 Bay but I actually need it, this guy here sounds like he won't need an other charger for years.. he doesn't seem the buying new mods type.
I would however recommend the nitecore 4 Bay, excellent charger and the same price as the xtar 2 bay if the OP wanted to go that route.
That is awesome. I love hearing things like this. I was a heavy smoker for about 30 years and vaping was the only thing that got me out of it. Also, I've lost several loved ones to Cancer including some who quit smoking too late for it to do them any good. I think I have developed an (admittedly potentially annoying) knee jerk reflex to recommend MTL to people to keep them off the cigs. In part because of my past and also because I keep seeing a tendency among vendors to push higher Wattage set ups. It's too early for me to be drinking an alcoholic beverage, but I'll raise this cup of coffee to toast to your continued good health.
Being you are staying below 50watts, any of the 3 3000mah 20amp Continuous Discharge Rated (CDR) battery models will suit you well as you'll need the runtime (mah) more than the throughput/push (amps/CDR) for that Pico /w your Cubis Tank
LG HG2 3000mah 20amp (tested 18amps CDR by Mooch) - chocolate brown wrap
Sony VTC6 3000mah 15amp (tested 19amps CDR by Mooch) - pine green color wrap
Samsung 30Q 3000mah 15amp (tested 20amps CDR by Mooch) - lavender/pink color wrap
At about 30 to 40watts, this is a rough guesstimate, a 3000mah battery should last you roughly 3/4 to a full day per battery, always good to have spares, so 3 to 4 will be ideal, just get into a proper charge/usage rotation with them to extend their lives. Mark the batteries 1,2,3,4 or A,B,C,D etc so you know which battery is which, and get into the habit of charge battery, once complete set it aside for about 15 to 30 minutes before usage, use the battery, remove from mod, let it again set aside about 15 to 30minutes at rest before setting onto the charger, using the next battery in your set in order. This reduces wear and tear on your batteries, also alleviates undue stress upon them, allowing them time to rest and become idle between usage and charging states, to keep the ions inside stable before being energized (charged) or de-energized (usage/discharged). It is advisable to get an external battery charger, the charger only has one job to do, charge and maintain battery conditioning to optimal performance, and is safest, reducing wear and tear on your Pico's USB port for in emergency situations when away from your charger (on the road, at work, travelling, etc) for charging only, the port I believe can be used to upgrade the Pico's firmware programming, can't upgrade that software if the USB port is worn out or busted due to constant plugging in and out a cable to it.
Suggested, cost effective, external charger that a lot of people use would be the Nitecore i2 (2bay charger), with 3 or more batteries in rotation a 4 or 6 bay just wouldn't be cost effective for you, can find them in the $15 to $20USD price range. On average the Nitecore line of chargers charge at about 500 milli-amp hours charge rate, digital screen models like the D2 and I think newer i2's can show a ramp up to about 750 milli-amps, then throttle down to 250 milli-amps at 80 to 90% complete charge on the batteries. A fully discharge 3000mah battery from 3.0 to 3.2v back up to 4.2v full charge should take about 3 to 6hours per battery on the i2 charger, first charge when you get the batteries could take up to 7 to 8 hours, recharging at about 50% charge (about 3.5 to 3.7v) would reduce charge time by half and extend total battery lifetime by about 2x (in theory). Be gentle on your batteries and they will serve you safely without incident for about 18 to 24months recharging them most times at the 50% charge level. Storing them for extended periods without use, store them in a cool environment at about 50% charge, never below 3.2v to 3.0v, but between 3.5 to 3.7v, checking them periodically with a Digital Multi-Meter (can be found at WalMart for less than $15USD), if lowest than 3.5v put them on the charger to bring them back up to 3.7v or so before storing them again. At time of purchase, advisable to add in to the order 10 extra insulator wraps (most times $1 for a set of 10) and some extra positive insulator ring waffers ($0.50 to $1USD) to your orders, if the wraps get torn, cut, or other damage, just need a hot hair dryer to replace the wraps, also first purchase buying 2 2bay battery cases or 1 4bay battery case (you will use these to carry spare batteries with you, never store 18650's in a pocket or purse without being in a case.
Best places in the US to get Authentic batteries, cases, wraps, chargers
illumn.com (Illumination Supply)
imrbatteries.com
Liionwholesale.com
orbtronic.com
RTDVapor.com
Sorry for the lengthy post, but knowledge is power when it comes to vaping batteries.
Wow, I've literally never done that. Not since the days of cartos and carto tanks. I usually get 1-1.5 weeks out of a coil but the number of duds has gone up.
As far as the batteries, I'm regularly away from home 13+ hours a day. So it seems that one in the mod, +1 in a case, +1 at home charging is the way to go.
Unfortunately I did some research on vapenw and it seems that they had a fire, then sold their business. The new owners are horrible. Everywhere else I've seen Picos they go for $38+. After batteries and a charger that's more expensive than just a replacement MVP 3.0 Pro.
Correct, I have enough expensive hobbies as it is, vaping isn't one of them. I do like the idea of going to a mod with removable batteries.
@rdean2954 - EcigSupply.com has the Innokin MVP 30W mods for $19.95 now, in case you're interested.
@rdean2954 - Or...here's the Pico 75W mod in either Black and Bronze or White and Bronze, regularly $40, but if you use the coupon code Turkey at Checkout...it's $28 + Free S/H. It's from a place many of us bought lots of Picos from, in the last 6-8 months, too. Really good company!
Eleaf iStick PICO Black & Bronze/White & Bronze Kits - $40.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes
Eleaf iStick PICO Black & Bronze/White & Bronze Kits - $40.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes
I'd have linked you to the regular colored ones on RMV, and they'd have been just $22.40 with the discount with Free S/H, too. But...the only color left there was the hot pink! Could use it with a silicone sleeve of another color on it though.
In any case...I'm glad you found one though.
I got my last Pico there in July and got mod only for $26. Not bad, but shipping was blindingly fast. Ordered on a Friday, I had it the next Tuesday. Maybe the new crew has the engine in the right gear now.
Glad you found one under $30. You won't regret it.
I've done business with vapenw before the fire, great place and excellent prices, there price point hasn't changed with the exception they are a little higher now than they used to be (but I used to shop in clearance and now they don't really have anything in clearance, of course because of the fire)
But I've not heard they sold out. They were able to get up and running fairly quickly after the shopping mall burned down, at that time it was still the original owners which wasn't that long ago
If they have sold to bad owners then I am sorry, as I did recommend them.. they used to be a great place to shop and that wasn't that long ago. I must have missed a thread here.
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Here's at least 1 place where it was talked about. People weren't real happy about the sale, nor that they weren't notified that it had been sold to new owners:
Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
I've looked into it now since I posted, and found some of the original stuff about it, and all I can see is that the new owners of the company wanted to cash in on the vaping community feeling sorry for the previous owners loss in the fire.
While that is NOT a good way to establish trust in the community, it's not saying that people are having bad shopping experiences. I'm not seeing where the new owners are ripping people off (outside of the higher prices than vapenw had previously been charging)..
Basically, no one is saying they aren't getting orders and such.. so.. it's still a place that, if less expensive than elsewhere, we can still purchase from or recommend going to..
I know I might think twice about doing business with them again after what I read, but so long as people are getting what they bought and paid for in a timely manner, can't say I'd avoid them like the plague or anything either.
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