New vaper in trouble.

[Pezen]

Hello.

A few days ago I decided to swap my cigarettes with an e-cig, which made me go buy a starter kit on some website. I read a little bit about the different types, but all it did was making me more confused. So I decided to buy the KangerTech DripBox, since a friend of mine recommended this as a more chill "alternative", and I also bought the KangerTech sub box mini kit for a mere regular use.
I started out with the DripBox, having no idea what I was doing, and ended up destroying the first coil (I think it's named coil, the thing you drip on), and then decided to change it. My problem is, that after a couple of days I still get some harsh vape sessions. I mean the first 1-2 inhales were fine, but after that it made me cough for several minutes and didn't feel as pleasant as I though vaping would be? Am I doing something wrong or could it be the e-juice?

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcomes,
The units you have are fine, but not something I would suggest for the transition from smoking to vaping.
The drip box "subdrip" atty pretty much sucks ( see almost every review/you tube video) in it's stock form.

You didn't mention ANYTHING about the juice you bought, so hard to offer any insights.
Take a peek at the Innokin T-18.
Are you still smoking cigarettes? How long did you smoke and how many per day?

Cheers
I
Dripbox thread:
I tried the stock build, don't do this! If you ever wondered what it would be like to smack your pecker with a hammer, it's probably pretty close! It's WAY TOO MUCH!

 

[djsvapour]

Hi.

I'm putting some money on your issues not being the e-liquid.

I guess the point of a dripper (the 'chill alternative') is to maximize flavor and circumnavigate some of the issue with tanks. The drip box offers another piece of hardware in the now wide variety of ways (and power) to vape. Described on a few vendor website as an introduction (starter) to dripping for the newbie, my opinion is that surely it's some sort of squonking device.

There is a juice bottle in the mod and you squeeze it to supple juice to your bottom fed atomizer. The squeezing action is called squonking.

If the atomizer is half decent, it should work. I'm guessing Kanger want to sell premade coils and the box/kit itself. Logic would probably suggest that someone with experience of a standard dripper would know how much liquid to squonk and how to mod the coils or set the thing up properly. Since the atomizer is probably hidden in the cover and you'd need to pull the cap off to see what's going on, it's probably a bad idea for the uninitiated. However, that doesn't mean you won't work it out or get the feel for it in time, so not a wasted buy... I'm sure.

It might not be a stellar vape itself (the atomizer/factory coil), but squonking works and as long as you know how much to squonk as you go along, it should be fine.

Ummm... I might order one.

Coughing would either be a rough/dry coil or simply a lot of vapor for new vaper.

The e-cig industry seems to think the world needs to vape at far higher power than strictly necessary and some folk take a good long time to get used to inhaling the vapor.

 

[DingerCPA]

Hi Pezen.

The Dripbox is an "ambitious" first device.

What you may be experiencing is substantial "direct lung" hits which are different than smokers' "mouth to lung" hits. As Izan suggests, you don't specify your nic level or PG/VG ratios on the juice. Higher nic at higher power (to which the dripbox is lending itself) can lead to harsher hits. You're probably not used to vaping yet and may be trying to take a sip from a firehose.

Everyone is different, and everyone vapes differently. It took me (quite) some time before I could really open up and take full lung-hits without hacking my brains out. Even today, I'll get caught by surprise once in a while

I don't know much about the Enduras, but something on that order might be a better "starting" point to get you used to not smoking. Because there are so many options, it might take a bit to settle in on what works for you.

Good Luck

 

[Baditude]

My problem is, that after a couple of days I still get some harsh vape sessions. I mean the first 1-2 inhales were fine, but after that it made me cough for several minutes and didn't feel as pleasant as I though vaping would be? Am I doing something wrong or could it be the e-juice?

It could be a wide variety of issues going on here.

First of all, new vapers generally have a transition period as they adjust from smoking to vaping. You probably coughed a lot when you began smoking, and then you didn't as your body made adjustments. The same can be true with vaping; it may take a while for you to adjust to vapor.

Coils can "go bad" for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it is from user error. Not "priming" the coil correctly can cause dry hits which seem harsh and cause you to cough. The e-liquid may not be reaching the wick and causing it to burn. Try doing some "primer puffs" occasionally between vapes -- sucking on the tank without power on to draw e-liquid onto the wick/coil.

Using too high of a nicotine concentration can cause one to cough, as can using an e-liquid with a high pg (propylene glycol) content. Some "juices" are just "bad" period.

Sorry I can't help you specifically, but without actually seeing your rig and how you vape I can't.

 

[DingerCPA]

@djsvapour - I have a Dripbox, and it's quite amusing. Not bad for the price point. And (sorry @Izan) I don't mind the atty. It's o.k., but I do prefer my Velocities

 

[Hitmetwice]

If you haven't done so yet, hit utube up and type your device name into the search. You will have many results pop up. Check out a couple reviews at least, some reviewers are better than others. Find one you like and familiarize yourself with what you have.
Best to do this before purchase and for sure do it before first use.(little late for that now I guess) Cheers.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. If you're getting two good hits and then a bad one, it sounds like the coil is running out of juice producing the dreaded "dry hit." maybe try squonking-- pushing the bottle to squirt up some juice-- more often.

 

[Skulcius]

Take a peek at the Innokin T-18.

They have a T-22 now that I love am also new to vaping. Bigger battery bigger tank and 14w

 

[skoony]

So this dripbox comes with a coil that has been properly wicked?
mike

 

[JustWondering1]

They have a T-22 now that I love am also new to vaping. Bigger battery bigger tank and 14w

I've read about the T22. It sounded to me like an ideal device for a new vaper, but I've never before heard what a new vaper thought about it. Glad to know you like it. I usually recommend an iStick 30 with a Nautilus Mini tank to newbies, but now I'll probably recommend the T22 to others as well. Thanks for the scoop!

 

[DingerCPA]

So this dripbox comes with a coil that has been properly wicked?
mike

"Properly" may be subjective. I've used it, and it's not too bad.....

 

[Skulcius]

I've read about the T22. It sounded to me like an ideal device for a new vaper, but I've never before heard what a new vaper thought about it. Glad to know you like it. I usually recommend an iStick 30 with a Nautilus Mini tank to newbies, but now I'll probably recommend the T22 to others as well. Thanks for the scoop!

Works well great battery life. I have used all day and put on charger at night and it doesn't take long at all to get full charge so gonna take charger with me and try second day on one charge. Comes with everything you need so in my opinion a great starter. At least is for me!

 

[sawlight]

The quote above, from the dripbox thread is mine. The dripbox comes set up with a .2 ohm build, it's meant for cloud chasing, and I was using 36mg juice, it was way too much! I've tried several builds on it so far, but with the stock atty it seem a dual .7 ohm build with the air holes not quite half closed is the best bet for somewhat normal vaping. I'm looking at other atomizers to better suit my vaping style as I type this!
The stock atomizer is very airy, not anything like the cigalikes you were using, and produces a LOT of vapor quickly, not anything like the cigalikes you were using.
You basically went from an Apple to battery acid in one fell swoop! Read through the last five pages of the dripbox thread mentioned above, there's some good information in there. If you have a decent local shop see if you can get someone there to build you a .7-.8 ohm dual coil on it and that will take a lot of the harshness out of it.
The second thing you describe is "dry hits", no liquid on the coils. Is the squeeze bottle full? If so squeeze it until you see juice on top of your wick, then about every third time you hit it, squeeze it two more times. Then so on, as it comes set up, it's a major juice hog! You have to keep feeding the beast! With the .7 ohm build I can get seven or eight good hits before I need to squeeze it again. It's called a "bottom feed" for a reason, you get the flavor of a dripper, but have to keep the wick wet with juice. This is done squeezing the bottle below the attomizer.
I hope this somewhat helps, it's hard to explain this with a keyboard, a lot easier to show it in person!

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome and glad you joined.
Could try visiting your local B&M Vape shop and they might be able to guide you on how to set up your equipment.
Might like to read:
What is Sub Ohm Vaping? Our Sub Ohm Vaping Guide & Tips
ECF Sub-Ohm Advisory

 

[JohnnyDill]

If you are new to vaping, the "factory" build in the DripBox is WAY over the top, IMO. Worse yet, that's the way the replaceable coils are built. Both of the coils that came with my DripBox measured .22 ohm.

I feel you need less power, at least initially. Kanger should offer a choice of coil resistance for newbies.

 

[sawlight]

If you are new to vaping, the "factory" build in the DripBox is WAY over the top, IMO. Worse yet, that's the way the replaceable coils are built. Both of the coils that came with my DripBox measured .22 ohm.

I feel you need less power, at least initially. Kanger should offer a choice of coil resistance for newbies.

I agree, I wish they would offer something in the .5-.8 ohm range as well. With the stock atty, that's really about as high as you can go with the amount of air it takes in. I'm wanting to get a Chalice III for it but that seems to have to come from China so I want to make the order worthwhile.
I do have a Velocity mini, Velocity Mini Style Bottom Feeding RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer Black on the way as most in the dripbox thread seem to like this atty on it.
Hopefully Kanger is listening to us and will come out with a redesigned atty and different built coils for it. It really is a neat, well working design for the most part, but it's in cloud chasing territory as it comes stock.

 

[mcclintock]

With a high power, high airflow device you must pull the intended amount of air through to keep it cool. Scared of it turns into need to be scared; only attacking without fear results in no need to fear. You might be OK the first hit but after that the whole thing starts heating up.

Some of the first info I saw sounded like it was regulated power, it's not. It's a protected mech. Higher resistance coils pull less power from the battery. You might be able to just remove a coil and tape over the air hole on that side.

 

[sawlight]

With a high power, high airflow device you must pull the intended amount of air through to keep it cool. Scared of it turns into need to be scared; only attacking without fear results in no need to fear. You might be OK the first hit but after that the whole thing starts heating up.

Some of the first info I saw sounded like it was regulated power, it's not. It's a protected mech. Higher resistance coils pull less power from the battery. You might be able to just remove a coil and tape over the air hole on that side.

It does have AFC, you adjust the drip tip portion to open/close the air holes. It's not fond of single coils, I've tried, it's too airy, and as I said above, anything above a .8 ohm build is all but useless without a lot of modification to the stock atty. I can't see spending that much time in the machine shop being justified when you can buy a new atty for less than $20 shipped to your door.
You are correct on the regulation, it has battery protection and low resistance protection, but that's it. The build determines what it's output is.

 

[zoiDman]

Hello.

A few days ago I decided to swap my cigarettes with an e-cig, which made me go buy a starter kit on some website. I read a little bit about the different types, but all it did was making me more confused. So I decided to buy the KangerTech DripBox, since a friend of mine recommended this as a more chill "alternative", and I also bought the KangerTech sub box mini kit for a mere regular use.
I started out with the DripBox, having no idea what I was doing, and ended up destroying the first coil (I think it's named coil, the thing you drip on), and then decided to change it. My problem is, that after a couple of days I still get some harsh vape sessions. I mean the first 1-2 inhales were fine, but after that it made me cough for several minutes and didn't feel as pleasant as I though vaping would be? Am I doing something wrong or could it be the e-juice?

Hi Pezen. Welcome to the ECF.

For someone who has never used an e-Cigarette, the Kanger Drip Box (and factory Coils) might be somewhat Daunting to start off with. Not say'n that it is Not a Good Set-Up. But the Kanger Subox Mini would probably be an Easier Set-Up to get the hang of what is what.

Hardware is only Part of the Equation. e-Liquid is just as (or in some cases More) Important.

So what type of e-Liquid are you Using? mg/ml ? PG/VG ?

Also, using the Right Battery is Very Important. What type of Battery(s) do you have?