They think everyone cloned them and don't even mention TC.Don't tell the Provari peeps that. One actually insisted that Yihi cloned the P v2.5 chip for the sx350j, rofl!
Great thread if you want to discuss kittens!!!!That is funny. I don't know how that person figured that when the sx350j does so much more than the P v2.5 chip. I like Provape products but the fans over there are like religious fanatics. Also the threads over there are frustrating to get product info from because 95% of the posts have nothing to do with the product. Like the Radius thread is 677 pages long and about only 33 of those pages talk about the Radius. The rest of the pages is filled with comments about nonsense.
Some of those folks do seem to be nuts.
Very informative! Thanks for the initial review!I've been on my new ML since it came in Monday morning's mail. It definitely has a better feel than the M, and appears to have fit and finish worthy of a $200 device. I had the first batch of M's and the paint was coming off within a day using my fingernail, but the finish on the ML seems to be baked on showing no signs of use after 2 days (passes the fingernail test). The recessed name plate is another nice touch and gives you an extra fingerhold for those with slippery fingers.
Functionally, one thing I noticed right off the bat was that I had to lower my temp settings vs the M. I had been running at 420 and dropped down to 400... also lowered the Joules from 30 to 27. Initial (subjective) observations are that the ML runs a bit smoother and does a better job handling SS316L than the M did. I think when pb puts up his scope pictures, it will show the stability improvements ... probably related to more accurate resistance measurements that the ML is capable of.
The battery cap is definitely better than the M's (deeper slot and wider threads) but still a bit sticky on the threads and slippery to turn with your thumb ... I've been through 6 or 7 battery changes and I may be running for a dab of dielectric grease on my next battery change.
Another thing I like (minor) is that the temp compensation now follows the F/C setting so I can set the compensation to room temp in F instead of converting to C. One thing to be careful of is that when you switch between F and C your old value is retained so if you set 19C and then switch to F, the compensation goes to 19F (not 66F) ... found that out the hard way
One thing I don't understand is why they bothered with Junior/Senior mode - to begin with the nomenclature is confusing, would be better with Basic/Advanced (or ADV) .... but getting past that, what's the point? From what I can tell, you can only get to the Power/Joules setting in Senior mode... Then if you select Power (Power vs Joules) you basically are in Junior mode and if you select Joules you basically are in Senior mode. It's like wearing a belt and suspenders and just adds another menu item to scroll through when I want to tweak a setting. Maybe the manual will shed some light on that.
For those debating on the M vs the ML, if you're running stainless or even considering it, subjectively speaking, I'd say its worth the extra $30-$40. Most likely the same for ti as well. And, even if you're not running in TC mode, you might appreciate the extra power, and the subtle improvements in fit & finish.
Looking forward to playing around with the software....
I don't have the ML but I downloaded and installed it - yes, it's the new SXi-Q software.
Say what!? Is authorization for warranty purposes?Wow, they put a teaser in there, showing a program for changing the logo screen, then saying you have to contact them to get authorization!!
Thanks for the verification LM! I can say this about the ML... it really feels the opposite of say my IPV4S... It's fit and finish is more like "provari" kind of quality it seems. My IPV4S feels kinda hollow and cheap. I'm excited to load the software up now that they finally posted it... When the mod first came on Monday I don't think the s/w was there yet? My guess is a lot of technology in this new chip is in what it's doing with sensitivity to the ohms changes... maybe it's faster cpu in addition to the four decimal resistance readout? I didn't have an M so I can't comment on the battery cap but it feels like it could use a little no-ox thread lubricant on it. So far I love this thing... I hope the software can actually do something useful...
Maybe they only plan to let vendor's use that function...? Who knows... I can't figure out why they wouldn't let the end user create they're own screen.
I haven't really paid any attention to what all the software was supposed to do, but the first useful thing I see is using that graph function, you'll be able to give it a preheat type of setup as you can control what wattage it uses across the 10 sec time span. So, 60w for 1 sec, then go down to say 30w for 3 sec, etc. I'm assuming that's only for kanthal though as it has a "w" for the power indication, not a "j".
