NEW YIHI SX MINI ML CLASS!
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Glad to hear they're doing this, although a little sad it seems likely that they now won't bother adding SS/TCR to the original SX Mini M
It could still happen...there's an awful lot of 350J V1 boards that still need homes, and no doubt a fair few SX Mini Ms sitting on shelves.
Besides, if SS really catches on, to keep their partners and customers happy, they'll need to add it to the SX 330 (and maybe SX 130H line) as well, via at least a preset, to existing hardware. Doubtful they'll add full granular TCR support a la SXK or smok though, that's a significant change in the UI.
I have not seen anything other than reports of using ni200. And maybe one about SS but you can use SS in regular mode. There are two camps we all know this. Yihi crowd and Evolve and thats good for us cause competition drives invention.
Nonetheless, there are many using all sorts of non-Ni200 wires on the dna 200, and many other mods. Titanium, Stainless Steel in various grades, NiFe in several alloys, and more theoretically possible.
They have varying strengths and weaknesses, but all share one huge benefit: they're not Ni200
It's a shame they have to be 'camps' rather than just 'companies', but yes both have done good things for the vaping world.
I think that if Yihi wants this new chip to really take off they have to set up their own forum where we, the user, can interact with them directly. If they don't do this Evolv has nothing to worry about.
Even if they did evolv would have nothing to worry about.
It would be great for entertainment purposes though.
Given the vast majority of Chinese companies (even large/solid ones like Yihi) can't even proofread/de-chinglish their press/marketing materials, no idea how they'd be able interact/answer questions on a forum.
Will be interesting to see what their software looks like/does though, more options is always a good thing!
I can't get over them putting in a gold coil mode. Googled 26g pure gold wire and damnnn that would be an expensive build.
I highly doubt it's actually a 'mode', as in a choice in the menu. Unless the user adds it as one, at least.
It sounds very much like they're going to have, at the least, a configurable single TCR figure for each wire, stored by the user as presets. And quite possibly they'll replicate Evolv's TCR curve system, whereby the user enters multiple temperature points and indicates how much the wire will increase in resistance at that point.
So the idea is, like the DNA 200 chip, Dicodes chip and mods, SXK mods, and the new Smok mods, it will support vaping on any wire with a suitable TCR. Ni200, Titanium, Stainless Steels, NiFes, and yes, theoretically, Platinum, Silver, and Gold.
And like the DNA 200, and unlike the others I mentioned, I expect they're going to allow the user to save those configurations as named presets. And no doubt import/export them using their PC software, again like the 200.
Not that anyone is likely to actually use Platinum, Silver or Gold, because their resistance is low and the TCR isn't so much better as to overcome that. Silver and Gold will be a lot less accurate than Ni200 - already the least accurate wire - and perhaps 12+ times less accurate than Titanium. And that's before considering the cost.
I just checked Gold, and it has resistance one third that of Ni200, whose ultra low resistance already makes it a poor TC wire. An 8 wrap coil of 28G being 0.04Ω? No thanks
They're listing Gold and Silver on there to look flash and different - and to highlight the fact that it will support any wire. Not because anyone is ever likely to use it
Platinum actually would be a decent TC wire, because it's TCR is incredibly linear, and as such is used in RTD devices. But its eye watering cost makes it daft for our use. I looked it up the other day - each coil would cost around $20
And it still wouldn't be as ultimately accurate as Titanium and other wires we can vape on today, because its resistance is quite low.All that said, I suppose if they do have presets then they might pre-populate the list with one for Gold, Silver and Platinum. So OK maybe they will come with a 'mode' for it
But it will be one the user can, and surely will!, remove/replace with their own I certainly hope they do pre-populate some, and don't just default to Ni200 as Evolv did.
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Imagine yihi putting up a forum and trying to interact with the customers. They would do what evolv did with the dna40 screen, scramble sentences. They would also have a strict warranty on their boards. Just imagine the hassle shipping a board back for warranty.
I'm happy with evolv. My first dna200 messed up before I was able to get it in a box. It could have been my fault. In response, evolv replaced it with an actual mod. Seeing how I only payed $50 for the board, I got a whole dna200 device for that price.
I'm happy with evolv. My first dna200 messed up before I was able to get it in a box. It could have been my fault. In response, evolv replaced it with an actual mod. Seeing how I only payed $50 for the board, I got a whole dna200 device for that price.
lol thats funny, yihi has more products in circulation than evolve ever will. Your only counting 1 product, they have the market taken over pretty much. Evolve would have to create many more different boards to compete.
Yea, I am changing my mind on upgradeable devices being an advancement and industry leading technology.
Doesn't do a bit of good in a market where devices are so readily abandoned for the next latest and greatest.
Now, if there were readily available community freeware support it might be a bit different. We, on the other hand are to small of a community to have a worthy group of programmers to provide such support.
Doesn't do a bit of good in a market where devices are so readily abandoned for the next latest and greatest.
Now, if there were readily available community freeware support it might be a bit different. We, on the other hand are to small of a community to have a worthy group of programmers to provide such support.
What do you mean? If there is a problem you send them to Varitube, they take care of warranty stuff in America.
I gotta check outa this thread you guys are nuts.
I dunno, some control is better than no control. Even with closed-source software, there's a lot to be gained with Escribe and the follow-on competitors to it. Just being able to share and import CSV files is a big win.
Except the modders chip sets are only covered with DOA situations. If you accidentally short the board, you're SOL. Evolv would replace their products with no questions asked.
Not sure that's a good idea. Evolv forum is scary if you go out there. So many posts on Warranty service, Boards dying randomly, fuses blowing, Chips burning up. LCD's quitting, components falling off, Chips overheating when plugged into USB etc.. etc.. I'm not sure that's a good selling point at least for me it's not. I have a DNA200 but the only reason was it was so inexpensive. No way I'd spend full blown retail with all the problems that are being posted in their forum at present. Evolv seems to get a free pass on the forum for some reason. If a China company had that many problems they'd be shunned.
The vaping scene has seen tremendous changes since early clearomizer days.
We had the mech mods, provaris, then the DNA's and then it was sub ohm vaping and TC stuff that's happening right now.
China has been fast and furious when it comes to pushing out new products and being the country that invented vaping itself, I'm sure a brand such as yihi has moulded itself to be a company that's always striving for the latest and most innovative products.
I mean, they supply a $ h it load of chips to all the other manufacturers and I'm guessing they probably had inputs from the other vendors with regards to the latest trends in vaping and the direction they should be heading towards.
For all the naysayers out there, its only a matter of time before they jump ship or hop on the latest TC bandwagon save for a few stubborn or kanthal fans.
Anyway, i have no idea what I'm talking and i just placed a pre order for the new sx mini ml class while looking at my sx mini m class.
Bloody hell. I also placed an order for the vt200 dna200 mod and am hoping to add in a hobo customs hobo x dna200 box mod to my collection.
To stay ahead of the curve, i can only chase trends and keep buying.
Start vaping they said, it'll save u a lot of money.....yeah right...
We had the mech mods, provaris, then the DNA's and then it was sub ohm vaping and TC stuff that's happening right now.
China has been fast and furious when it comes to pushing out new products and being the country that invented vaping itself, I'm sure a brand such as yihi has moulded itself to be a company that's always striving for the latest and most innovative products.
I mean, they supply a $ h it load of chips to all the other manufacturers and I'm guessing they probably had inputs from the other vendors with regards to the latest trends in vaping and the direction they should be heading towards.
For all the naysayers out there, its only a matter of time before they jump ship or hop on the latest TC bandwagon save for a few stubborn or kanthal fans.
Anyway, i have no idea what I'm talking and i just placed a pre order for the new sx mini ml class while looking at my sx mini m class.
Bloody hell. I also placed an order for the vt200 dna200 mod and am hoping to add in a hobo customs hobo x dna200 box mod to my collection.
To stay ahead of the curve, i can only chase trends and keep buying.
Start vaping they said, it'll save u a lot of money.....yeah right...
I spose we all see the world differently, IMO Evolv get a hard time and YiHi get loads of fans for mediocre products. I am amazed there are not more people shouting about the 170 GBP they spent on the SX that was "upgradable" probably not being upgraded any more, we don't know that for sure, but...
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