NEW YIHI SX MINI ML CLASS!

[TheBloke]

Yea, I am changing my mind on upgradeable devices being an advancement and industry leading technology.
Doesn't do a bit of good in a market where devices are so readily abandoned for the next latest and greatest.
Now, if there were readily available community freeware support it might be a bit different. We, on the other hand are to small of a community to have a worthy group of programmers to provide such support.

You're right that an upgradeable mod is only a benefit when there are upgrades, but that doesn't mean I'd not want a mod to be upgradeable!

And in my view Yihi have done OK with their upgrades thus far. Several to the SX Mini M, one each to the ipv4 and IPV3 (or rather to the SX330v4s or whatever the chip is). And not just fixes, but new features.

We'll see what they do to the SXM when its successor is out - that will be most telling.

But still I'll take upgradeability over not any day of the week.

And yeah open source/community-empowering stuff would be awesome. I think Evolv missed a trick there. They should have open sourced eScribe and encouraged community development including Mac/Linux ports etc. It's not like eScribe being closed source is going to stop anyone easily replicating it if they want to - as indeed Yihi seem to be doing. And the extensions/plugins/cool stuff it would encourage would be something that Yihi could not replicate, or at least not nearly so easily. Community is a major strength that Evolv could have, being English-speaking and US-based. They could leverage it much better in my view. The DNA 200 forum is a start, but a very minimal one; they didn't even set up a site for sharing profile CSVs, rather being happy to outsource it to Steam Engine with a tiny little link in eScribe.

But we still have the Cloudmaker Whiteout* to look forward to, an open-source Arduino-based platform. They seem to get it a great deal more, from what I've seen so far anyway.

* or whatever the chip part of it is called, I forget.

 

[TheBloke]

I spose we all see the world differently, IMO Evolv get a hard time and YiHi get loads of fans for mediocre products. I am amazed there are not more people shouting about the 170 GBP they spent on the SX that was "upgradable" probably not being upgraded any more, we don't know that for sure, but...

Plenty of people paid similar or more money for DNA 40 mods which weren't upgradeable at all?

We don't know whether the SXM will or won't stop getting updates when the successor is out. But SXM updates have happened, several of them, and adding new features. Of its generation it's been the most future proof mod of all.

Even the <£60 Yihi-chip mods have had at least one upgrade, again adding new features.

Whatever other points of comparison there might be, I don't think Yihi can be said to be behind on providing ongoing updates for their mods. If anything, they lead the way in the previous generation.

The DNA 200 has raised the game and moved to a new level of upgradeability, but then it's of a new generation; not comparable to the SXM. Comparable to this new ML, and we await to see how Yihi are responding and how they will compare.

 

[ThunderDan]

You're right that an upgradeable mod is only a benefit when there are upgrades, but that doesn't mean I'd not want a mod to be upgradeable!

And in my view Yihi have done OK with their upgrades thus far. Several to the SX Mini M, one each to the IPV4 and IPV3 (or rather to the SX330v4s or whatever the chip is). And not just fixes, but new features.

We'll see what they do to the SXM when its successor is out - that will be most telling.

But still I'll take upgradeability over not any day of the week.

And yeah open source/community-empowering stuff would be awesome. I think Evolv missed a trick there. They should have open sourced eScribe and encouraged community development including Mac/Linux ports etc. It's not like eScribe being closed source is going to stop anyone easily replicating it if they want to - as indeed Yihi seem to be doing. And the extensions/plugins/cool stuff it would encourage would be something that Yihi could not replicate, or at least not nearly so easily. Community is a major strength that Evolv could have, being English-speaking and US-based. They could leverage it much better in my view. The DNA 200 forum is a start, but a very minimal one; they didn't even set up a site for sharing profile CSVs, rather being happy to outsource it to Steam Engine with a tiny little link in eScribe.

But we still have the Cloudmaker Whiteout* to look forward to, an open-source Arduino-based platform. They seem to get it a great deal more, from what I've seen so far anyway.

* or whatever the chip part of it is called, I forget.

It's the Ares board, or Ares OS, I've seen it called both.

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To reply to your other post, there were two firmware updates for the 350J (maybe 3 if you count the first update as two, there was a 120W and 150W version), so rather than "several updates", maybe a " couple updates" would be more appropriate.

 

[retird]

Ho-hum... same song second verse...gotta love those personal opinions....hopefully new and diverse selections of stuff for the community to choose from...

 

[TheBloke]

It's the Ares board, or Ares OS, I've seen it called both.

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To reply to your other post, there were two firmware updates for the 350J (maybe 3 if you count the first update as two, there was a 120W and 150W version), so rather than "several updates", maybe a " couple updates" would be more appropriate.

Oh OK, I thought it was three (excluding the power differences.) Yeah OK, a couple of feature updates. Still pretty good for that generation.

 

[vernSL]

Ugh that branding on the mod is terrible.

 

[burnie71]

Was hoping for a firmware update to get at least an SS wire profile before they released a new one though. A TCR Adjustment seems like too much to ask for in a software update, but I wouldn't mind

I have no problem using SS in Ti mode tastes good no dry hits, I can't see myself getting another.

 

[Hank813]

I don't understand a couple things people are saying 1 the YIHI SX350J M CLASS IS a awesome mod not to mention that all these upgrades that you can do you could have always done them I was using titanium on day one when they were first released before the update firmware was available also of course every Company is going to come out with new products it's called business no matter what that will never change. And everybody that thinks that evolve is flawless is totally crazy almost everyone has had evolve chip in it especially the vapor shark when first released always have problems how many problems have any of you had with your YIHI SX350J? Because I have one that I bought hang out from the first week they were released in have never had a problem and was always able to use Titanium wire in any other wire in joules mode. Not that I don't like evolve but you can't praise evolve and knock YIHI when honestly a lot of people I know that know a lot about modz prefer the YIHI chips.

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[Hank813]

Also the YIHI SX350J comes with a way better warranty then any vapor shark product ever made.

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[Jeremy Schreiber]

and inevitably it "devolves" (no pun intended) into a Yihi vs Evolv fan boy argument fest.

Can we stick to the new mod and chip please? No one is going to convert anyone to liking the other brand by bashing the other. Some of us like Evolv, some of us like Yihi. I happen to like both and would like to read about the topic of this thread without people acting like 4 year old children saying their toy is better than their friends because more people own it or some other bs rationale (e.g., Hank183 saying because he "knows people that know mods and they like Yihi that they must be the way to go" - good for you, good for your friends - doesn't make you or your friends right. Also saying that you haven't had one problem with your SX Mini must mean that its the better than an Evolv mod. Guess what? I haven't had a single problem with my Opus 200 and I'm not running around bashing the SX Mini saying they have problems because I've read about multiple problems). Both chips/mods have advantages, both have disadvantages. Can't we all just get along?

 

[Hank813]

Anybody know the last time of Vapor Shark DNA had a one year warranty on it? Don't get me wrong I like the evolved chip and have A Opus 200 but as far as Vapor sharks I will never buy a vapor shark period . Not because of the chip but because of the all-around customer service they provide on their products. Especially when they own Evolve the best they can do is a 90 day warranty. I would buy a custom mod from anybody other than vapor shark before they ever get a dollar from me especially because of their customer service.

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[ThunderDan]

Anybody know the last time of Vapor Shark DNA had a one year warranty on it? Don't get me wrong I like the evolved chip and have A Opus 200 but as far as Vapor sharks I will never buy a vapor shark period . Not because of the chip but because of the all-around customer service they provide on their products. Especially when they own Evolve the best they can do is a 90 day warranty. I would buy a custom mod from anybody other than vapor shark before they ever get a dollar from me especially because of their customer service.

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Nobody cares.

 

[Hank813]

Yeah I hear you bro just so you know I just saw something where if you go to a the cloud maker site they will let you either switch over to the DNA 200.

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[Hank813]

You know what you're right sorry my bad you make a good point

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[ThunderDan]

You know what you're right sorry my bad you make a good point

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Sorry if that was rude, but it was getting a bit off topic.

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Back on topic.

I wonder if/what else this board is bringing to the table. Hopefully we'll find out more in the coming weeks, because as it stands this doesn't sound like very much of an improvement over the current offering.

 

[IanDVaypes]

Nobody cares.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. There are forums out there where you can talk about your depression. If it makes you feel any better, I care about you.

 

[Hank813]

Jermey you know what that came out the wrong way I really didn't mean for what I posted to come out like that cuz I have an opus 200 as well and I love it but honestly I just got ...... about everybody trashing YIHI when they both make good chips but Yihi chip as far as I know hasn't had many problems from day one of its release. But as far as these companies coming out with new products I mean that technology every six months there's a new TV cell phone all electronics are like that it's just the way it's always going to be.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Jermey you know what that came out the wrong way I really didn't mean for what I posted to come out like that cuz I have an opus 200 as well and I love it but honestly I just got ...... about everybody trashing YIHI when they both make good chips but Yihi chip as far as I know hasn't had many problems from day one of its release. But as far as these companies coming out with new products I mean that technology every six months there's a new TV cell phone all electronics are like that it's just the way it's always going to be.

I appreciate your response and apologize for reacting the way I did. I can certainly relate to getting frustrated when people trash Evolv and the DNA200 because of things that happened with the DNA40 (a dramatically different chip), problems with a very small minority of the new chips (which is common to any new product release), or the finish on Vaporsharks (which has nothing to do with Evolv). That said, I wouldn't be surprised if others construe me as an Evolv supporter. I am an Evolv supporter so that would not be inaccurate, but still, I appreciate Yihi's offerings and can see that many people are very happy with their Yihi purchases (just as many are with their Evolv purchases). I myself love my IPV4 and can imagine that an SX Mini or other SX350J chip product is even better. That is all to say I like both companies and the competition between them will only result in better products for all of us. There is absolutely no reason that we need to argue about which one is better. What does that get anyone? What does it accomplish for those of you that bash Evolv or bash Yihi?

That's all I'll say about that, can we all please get back on the topic of this new mod and chip?

 

[Woofer]

Especially when they own Evolve the best they can do is a 90 day warranty.

VaporShark does NOT own Evolv.

 

[Hank813]

Ya Brandon owes vapor shark and evolve look it up. And if he's not the total owner he is big partner and I'm pretty sure he is the owner of both look it up.

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