Newb looking for bigger/thicker clouds

[The Ocelot]

I mean I'm pretty sure I can learn if I find the right "mentor" like someone said up there, my dilemma is in how much vapor does the evic with protank 2 produce? or should I just go with a k100 and get to learning? that's my question right now before I ask anything else

Sorry, that question doesn't have an answer. How much exhaust is produced by a Toyota vs. a Honda?

It doesn't sound like you have been vaping long, slowing down on the learning curve wouldn't be a bad plan. The eVic isn't difficult to use, you don't have to rebuild anything at this point, and you can vape away while you figure out what you want to next.

Basically, the battery devices are just the power source. The flavor and volume of vapor is a result of the temperature the liquid is being vaporized at and what the liquid is made of. A higher vg to pg ratio results in more vapor.

Just my opinion.

 

[zhentipede]

oooops the evic you were considering was brand new? my bad ... in that evic set up i saw it online for around $80 includes batt and charger...

 

[zhentipede]

clouds and good flavor can be had even with regular ego twist dpends on your choice of set-up...

oooops the evic you were considering was brand new? my bad ... in that evic set up i saw it online for around $80 includes batt and charger...

 

[The Ocelot]

oooops the evic you were considering was brand new? my bad ... in that evic set up i saw it online for around $80 includes batt and charger...

Perhaps we should all revisit the original post.

1) The OP has a Twist
2) The OP wants more vapor clouds
3) The choice is between a mech and an eVic

Might it not be prudent to ask the OP how familiar he is with resistances? I'm vaping a mech right now and if I didn't know what atty to put on it, I could easily have no vapor at all. Safety issues aside (and irrelevant to me) does the OP know about voltage decreasing as the battery discharges? And all sorts of other dull techy stuff... Ya diddy Ya diddy Ya Ya

Perhaps we should ask the OP how long he is willing to vape the Twist while he figures some of this stuff out.

 

[arcebelaced]

It's not brand new he said it comes with (and I quote) "comes with the stainless cover, artemas DCT tank, a drip tip, the original charger and box, a kanger protank 2.

Looking to sell for $100" but he went down to 80, and he already decliend a $60 offer

 

[The Ocelot]

It's not brand new he said it comes with (and I quote) "comes with the stainless cover, artemas DCT tank, a drip tip, the original charger and box, a kanger protank 2.

Looking to sell for $100" but he went down to 80, and he already decliend a $60 offer

Well, you don't have to pay for shipping; you don't have to wait for it to come from China; you have a tank and a Protank to experiment with and anything you put on the Twist you can use on the eVic....

 

[zhentipede]

if i had patience i would have waited on the provari =) but i wanted ease of built in charging at the beginning phase of vaping lol..so i got the evic after the ego twist.... i learned so much in such a short time and don't regret the purchase...since i got the provari i paid it forward and gave my ego twist to a friend and planning to give my evic to my nephew... i'm keeping the provari as my main pv and my k100 as back up and playing around with low resistance .8 ohms and lower...

Wait, no one said "Get a provari" yet.

 

[madqatter]

Seems like it could be relevant again...
PSA: Cloud Chasing is Dangerous

I know my batteries, I know what I'm doing, how I'm doing it, and what the implications are and how to mitigate risks. If you don't... ask, learn, figure it out and don't just take some random Youtube video, drill out your RBA caps and start blowing clouds.

 

[polpol]

Get a better "buddy"

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[The Ocelot]

Wait, no one said "Get a provari" yet.

 

[mackman]

Huge clouds are impressive but is that why we vape? I personally factor in many areas into my vaping experience and the original one was to quit cigarettes. It has progressed far beyond that now. Foremost is the sensory satisfaction from the flavor and how it affects my senses and moods etc. It is more than "blowing smoke", its the knowledge of electrical currents and all their interactions (device, batteries, voltage, watts, amps, ohms and the like), the atomizer devices, the beauty of devices and how the different combinations interact to give me that satisfying experience. Not unlike one feels about a fine automobile. Hell I can blow great "clouds with an eGo twist and an Evod and a Provari and a Nimbus. It is not all about "chasing the Dragon".

 

[The Ocelot]

Huge clouds are impressive but is that why we vape? I personally factor in many areas into my vaping experience and the original one was to quit cigarettes. It has progressed far beyond that now. Foremost is the sensory satisfaction from the flavor and how it affects my senses and moods etc. It is more than "blowing smoke", its the knowledge of electrical currents and all their interactions (device, batteries, voltage, watts, amps, ohms and the like), the atomizer devices, the beauty of devices and how the different combinations interact to give me that satisfying experience. Not unlike one feels about a fine automobile. Hell I can blow great "clouds with an eGo twist and an Evod and a Provari and a Nimbus. It is not all about "chasing the Dragon".

You should see what I can do with my little plastic 3.7 box mod.

 

[zhentipede]

75-80 bucks out the door sounds good tax included........ only if it's mint condition... no after market soldering or re-glue-ing of any kind.

 

[arcebelaced]

Huge clouds are impressive but is that why we vape? I personally factor in many areas into my vaping experience and the original one was to quit cigarettes. It has progressed far beyond that now. Foremost is the sensory satisfaction from the flavor and how it affects my senses and moods etc. It is more than "blowing smoke", its the knowledge of electrical currents and all their interactions (device, batteries, voltage, watts, amps, ohms and the like), the atomizer devices, the beauty of devices and how the different combinations interact to give me that satisfying experience. Not unlike one feels about a fine automobile. Hell I can blow great "clouds with an eGo twist and an Evod and a Provari and a Nimbus. It is not all about "chasing the Dragon".

I mean I'm pretty sure this is gonna go down like the time I ventured into rooting my HTC Evo 3D, whichever I get, I'm gonna be asking a million questions hoping someone answers with the reasons why he's giving me such answers, I'm reading everything and appreciate everyones input into this! right now I'm leaning towards the evic, reading on other mods or devices as we speak, all input is very much appreciated

 

[Baditude]

Seems like it could be relevant again...
PSA: Cloud Chasing is Dangerous

Thank you for that link and your post.

 

[crxess]

A little comparison lesson
I have both eVics and Mechs

1 Evod - 2.0ohm - Orange Creamsicle 9mg 50/50 - 7.2 watts
1 Evod - 2.0ohm - Chocolate Eclair 9mg 50/50 - 7.2 watts

On Evic:
Orange Creamsicle - Great flavor - Nice thick Vapor
Chocolate Eclair - Nice flavor - almost no Vapor

On Mech(3.9v)approx 7 watts
Orange Creamsicle - Great flavor - same nice thick Vapor
Chocolate Eclair - okay flavor - same weak Vapor

Conclusion - it takes much more than simply changing the battery device to vastly improve on a flavor or Vapor.

A simpler point - An Ego 650 with a single coil Igo-l sitting in a bed of Cotton with a good Blend could easily crush this debate.

It is all in matching everything in your particular package for best desired results.

Silly, but you will get the point - eVic:

 

[eltranced]

I have already stated my perspective on your dilemma.

You can make clouds of vapor with either the Evic or the k100. They are both just the battery holders.

i like how being blinded by your (im assuming "christian" safety agenda, since you mentioned praying*) you've corrected your misleading "They are both just the battery holders" by editing "one has higher voltage the other doesn't" and yet still cant quite get it right.... evic suppose to, like provari does - provide a *constant* higher voltage (til battery is drained., which makes a world of a difference , so for you after 11000 posts to be still saying " They are both just the battery holder" you clearly haven't learned anything ... now some will argue evic does not stand up to provari's performance ... I've looked at pbusardo's voltage reading, they give consistent output unless there are dual coils involved... but the other factor is how frequently they fire... which i'd like someone to chime into .. i already forgot if evic was at 1kHz and provari at 800h
and bringing mech back into the picture ya "a kick circuit" will make it a vv for sacrifice of amp limits, WHICH THEN ! will be a similar battery holder..and yet still not quite because advantage is still clear that with a mech you can take the chip out ... and you cant with a provari... you'll have to work with certain amp and resistance limits and if your circuit fries gotta buy a new device... for the most all this is like whatever which im starting to think OP might be.... so evic should be like your c-twist with more voltage output capability and also will not drop the voltage like c-twist does after vaping plus with nice screen, and is that a pass thru usb port im seeing in the pics? if it is, its in a strange place.. its probably just for the software syncing.

 

[mackman]

I mean I'm pretty sure this is gonna go down like the time I ventured into rooting my HTC Evo 3D, whichever I get, I'm gonna be asking a million questions hoping someone answers with the reasons why he's giving me such answers, I'm reading everything and appreciate everyones input into this! right now I'm leaning towards the evic, reading on other mods or devices as we speak, all input is very much appreciated

OK when I got back into vaping the first APV I tried was an eVic at a B & M shop and loved it (I have written other posts on this). So I bought it, brought it home, went on line, read the manual, watched some videos, and started to vape with it and see what it could do. I was totally satisfied with it. I like the fact that it was VV/VW and and could throw every type of atomizer on it and dial in the performance of it with the juice I was vaping. It was because of the device that I got interested in building coils and learning about hardware that is available. It got my into DIY e liquid and searching the internet for knowledge. The majority of what I have learned has come though practical experience and most of my ideas and have come from scouring the posts on this forum. There is an unlimited wealth of experience contained in the members of this forum and they are more than willing to share it whether you are just starting out or or a "veteran".
So in conclusion I say go for the eVic it is a solid device I think you will be happy with. You sound like someone who wants to go deep into the vaping experience. How you do it is up to you.

 

[eltranced]

You should see what I can do with my little plastic 3.7 box mod.

who needs a box

I just made my first mech! well sort... of but vapes great!!

now I'll do a wood tube with a bottom mech switch

 

[polpol]

you can learn all the safety issues in 10 minutes with right assistance so to set fear mongering aside ...

so safety ... 20 minutes

This was a couple of hours ago. So um..op must be a battery guru by now right? Lol

Seriously though, in the time it took to write up your walls of text you could have taught op everything he needs to know about safety. According to you.



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