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They probably don't want your nose in theirs.
They shouldn't have their noses in your habits.
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Newbie: advise to get kids to understand and accept the change!
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My hubby and I were talking tonight about the reaction we got from the two college kids today and agree that their frame of minds are "stuck" on the "addiction of nicotine" and somehow need to get them to understand that although nicotine is addicting, that by itself is nothing more than an addictive substance just like caffine and is NOT the KILLER of smoking, it's the 5000+ chemicals that are in the cigarette that's the killer, cancer killer and that's what is not in an ecig.
Here is the biggest kick of their attitudes that gets me the most....I recently, in December, thought I had the flu until it dropped me to my knee's with severe pains to the chest and shortness of breathe. Was taken to ER, spent 5 days in hospital, told I had pnemonia of both lungs and plural effusion of both right and left chest wall. Sent home after day 5, 3 days later, right back in ER with another 7 day stay in hospital, still couldn't breathe and pain was unbearable. Did an IV CATSCAN, turned out, I had a pulmonary emboli, right lung. I was all but on my death bed. During the course of it all I stopped smoking, however have since been smoking again, not as much as before mind you. College kids are very upset with me that I started up again! Now three months later, pnemonia is gone, left plural effusion is cleared up, still have right plural effusion and a recent CATSCAN has now shown two "masses" in my left lung. Still have some shortness of breath and some pain and discomfort on right side where plural effusion still remains three months later. So as the story goes, serious ongoing medical problems that are all unknowns at the moment. So I understand their being upset that I started smoking again but to switch to ecigs, for me at this moment is extremely important to do. I have got to stop putting those 5000+ poisoning agents in my body, thats all there is too it. The nicotine hasn't done this to me, it's the poison that has. I'd think my family would be supportive of this, especially under the circumstances!
We have a family gathering next saturday for the college kids and family to catch up before it's time for them to go back to college. At that time, the remainder of the family will be told of our switching to ecig, we will actually have it in hand and vaping at that point. I wasn't expecting the reaction I got from the kids today, now I'm really concerned about the reaction from the rest of the family for saturday.
Hubby thought maybe printing out some info on ecigs and the poisoning agents of cigarettes might be a way of helping those who need more understanding. At this point, I don't care if anyone supports me or not, I'm switching that's all there is to it but it would sure be nice to have some family support. Just a bite anxious for next Saturday now.
Here is the biggest kick of their attitudes that gets me the most....I recently, in December, thought I had the flu until it dropped me to my knee's with severe pains to the chest and shortness of breathe. Was taken to ER, spent 5 days in hospital, told I had pnemonia of both lungs and plural effusion of both right and left chest wall. Sent home after day 5, 3 days later, right back in ER with another 7 day stay in hospital, still couldn't breathe and pain was unbearable. Did an IV CATSCAN, turned out, I had a pulmonary emboli, right lung. I was all but on my death bed. During the course of it all I stopped smoking, however have since been smoking again, not as much as before mind you. College kids are very upset with me that I started up again! Now three months later, pnemonia is gone, left plural effusion is cleared up, still have right plural effusion and a recent CATSCAN has now shown two "masses" in my left lung. Still have some shortness of breath and some pain and discomfort on right side where plural effusion still remains three months later. So as the story goes, serious ongoing medical problems that are all unknowns at the moment. So I understand their being upset that I started smoking again but to switch to ecigs, for me at this moment is extremely important to do. I have got to stop putting those 5000+ poisoning agents in my body, thats all there is too it. The nicotine hasn't done this to me, it's the poison that has. I'd think my family would be supportive of this, especially under the circumstances!
We have a family gathering next saturday for the college kids and family to catch up before it's time for them to go back to college. At that time, the remainder of the family will be told of our switching to ecig, we will actually have it in hand and vaping at that point. I wasn't expecting the reaction I got from the kids today, now I'm really concerned about the reaction from the rest of the family for saturday.
Hubby thought maybe printing out some info on ecigs and the poisoning agents of cigarettes might be a way of helping those who need more understanding. At this point, I don't care if anyone supports me or not, I'm switching that's all there is to it but it would sure be nice to have some family support. Just a bite anxious for next Saturday now.
First of all, there are actually health benefits to nicotine....mind and memory....alzheimers....look it up and toss it at the know it alls.... Then show them CASAA's site.....casaa.org....then have them look up Dr. Michael Siegel....he is a tobacco researcher at Boston University and a professor....he has done a few small studies and has made several PRO e-cig reviews.....you should be able to see his reports and such on CASAA's site......
Then remember...you are the parent and they don't have to like what you do, but they DO have to respect it.....you do not need their permission....they will grow up soon enough and thank you for your dedication to living a healthier life....my son is just happy there are no more stinkies and my stepson is thrilled....of course he is very open minded and hated the cigs to begin with.....well, that and the Airforce helped him to grow up a bit too
Then show them CASAA's site.....casaa.org....then have them look up Dr. Michael Siegel....he is a tobacco researcher at Boston University and a professor....he has done a few small studies and has made several PRO e-cig reviews.....you should be able to see his reports and such on CASAA's site......Then remember...you are the parent and they don't have to like what you do, but they DO have to respect it.....you do not need their permission....they will grow up soon enough and thank you for your dedication to living a healthier life....my son is just happy there are no more stinkies and my stepson is thrilled....of course he is very open minded and hated the cigs to begin with.....well, that and the Airforce helped him to grow up a bit too
You might also ask them if they ever consume: cauliflower, eggplant, potato, tomatoes peppers or tea. While the nicotine content in each is low.... they do contain nicotine.
Sorry I kinda disagree with these "your the parent" comments.
The "kids" are adults...they can vote....they can fight wars...ect ect ect they are legally full adults.
The "I'm a parent therefor you must listen to me" time is Way passed.
Tell them..your an adult too and will do what you please.
If it's SOooo dangerous and such a concern tell them to do some research on it, and present their concern in an educated matter(sending them to college for something right)...you want original sources and studies to back any points they have to make.
The "kids" are adults...they can vote....they can fight wars...ect ect ect they are legally full adults.
The "I'm a parent therefor you must listen to me" time is Way passed.
Tell them..your an adult too and will do what you please.
If it's SOooo dangerous and such a concern tell them to do some research on it, and present their concern in an educated matter(sending them to college for something right)...you want original sources and studies to back any points they have to make.
Here are a couple of factoids that may help in your argument (although I am of the frame of mind that you should just tell them that you've made your decision and the discussion is over - if they want to argue next time they should come prepared with facts instead of opinion).
• nicotine is actually not very addictive (it may be relative to coffee - maybe a bit more), it's only when you add the ingredients in tobacco products that it becomes extremely addictive.
• nicotine is not carcinogenic - nothing is e-cigs is carcinogenic
• the success rate of "the patch" is about 10%
• the success rate of e-cigs is about 80%
• all three of the ingredients in e-cigs can be found in tobacco cigarettes, we aren't using any strange foreign ingredient. E-cigs are about what we are NOT inhaling, not what we are inhaling.
Good luck!
(tell those kids to be supportive unless they have evidence to back up their opinion)
• nicotine is actually not very addictive (it may be relative to coffee - maybe a bit more), it's only when you add the ingredients in tobacco products that it becomes extremely addictive.
• nicotine is not carcinogenic - nothing is e-cigs is carcinogenic
• the success rate of "the patch" is about 10%
• the success rate of e-cigs is about 80%
• all three of the ingredients in e-cigs can be found in tobacco cigarettes, we aren't using any strange foreign ingredient. E-cigs are about what we are NOT inhaling, not what we are inhaling.
Good luck!
(tell those kids to be supportive unless they have evidence to back up their opinion)
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I only have one question...
Do they drink caffeinated sodas? Nicotine isn't really that much different and contrary to popular propaganda, nicotine is NOT a carcinogen. This should be a lesson for them in learning how to think for themselves instead of being guided by propaganda.
If all else fails, send them here and have them read all of the success stories. Have them take a look at all of the good things we're saying about vaping and how switching has improved our lives. Not a single one of us are being forced or paid to be here.
Do they drink caffeinated sodas? Nicotine isn't really that much different and contrary to popular propaganda, nicotine is NOT a carcinogen. This should be a lesson for them in learning how to think for themselves instead of being guided by propaganda.
If all else fails, send them here and have them read all of the success stories. Have them take a look at all of the good things we're saying about vaping and how switching has improved our lives. Not a single one of us are being forced or paid to be here.
So sorry to hear that the college kids weren't supportive. Email them links to the recent Boston University study, and the CASAA website.
Lots of people initially suspect that we've just found another way to smoke, that nicotine is the harmful substance, etc...People usually giggle at me like I'm kidding them when I first tell them about it - then when they finally listen and let me explain, they eventually come around.
Of course, it's not too far-fetched to think that kids that age will mourn the loss of having something to hang over their parents' heads!
Lots of people initially suspect that we've just found another way to smoke, that nicotine is the harmful substance, etc...People usually giggle at me like I'm kidding them when I first tell them about it - then when they finally listen and let me explain, they eventually come around.
Of course, it's not too far-fetched to think that kids that age will mourn the loss of having something to hang over their parents' heads!
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Of course I understand why they are upset of me returning to smoking and losing me and the medical issues at hand due to smoking, hence why I don't understand their unwillingness to at least listen about the ecig switch which gets me off the poisons, IE smoking, that has caused the dangerous medical situation I find myself in. That's my whole point. I did not raise my children to be narrow minded and judgmental. However, some offer good advise in their responses. I think I'm gonna take some of the advise in that, since they are home from college, print out the information of the few studies that have been done on ecigs, the scientific facts that nicotine is not the killing agent in smoking and print out what ecig agents are so they can read for themselves that switching is in fact something to support. I think it's a good idea to ask them to get on this forum and do a bite of reading about the ecig and how it has improved and changed peoples lives because of the 5000+ agents that are not in an ecig!
It's a matter of re educating them I suppose and getting them "unhooked from the evils of nicotine." Redirect their contempt where it belongs, the 5000+ killer agents in a single cigarette that are equally if not more addicting than nicotine!
Then when they finally are willing to at least listen and hopefully see the HUGE benefits of ecigs, I will tell then I expect an apology! Although they are kids, they are adult kids who are well educated and should know better than to be so narrow minded and judgmental, especially of me, their mother! They have hurt my feelings!
Of course I understand why they are upset of me returning to smoking and losing me and the medical issues at hand due to smoking, hence why I don't understand their unwillingness to at least listen about the ecig switch which gets me off the poisons, IE smoking, that has caused the dangerous medical situation I find myself in. That's my whole point. I did not raise my children to be narrow minded and judgmental. However, some offer good advise in their responses. I think I'm gonna take some of the advise in that, since they are home from college, print out the information of the few studies that have been done on ecigs, the scientific facts that nicotine is not the killing agent in smoking and print out what ecig agents are so they can read for themselves that switching is in fact something to support. I think it's a good idea to ask them to get on this forum and do a bite of reading about the ecig and how it has improved and changed peoples lives because of the 5000+ agents that are not in an ecig!
It's a matter of re educating them I suppose and getting them "unhooked from the evils of nicotine." Redirect their contempt where it belongs, the 5000+ killer agents in a single cigarette that are equally if not more addicting than nicotine!
Then when they finally are willing to at least listen and hopefully see the HUGE benefits of ecigs, I will tell then I expect an apology! Although they are kids, they are adult kids who are well educated and should know better than to be so narrow minded and judgmental, especially of me, their mother! They have hurt my feelings!
When we're excited and happy about something we expect everyone to be happy and excited for us too. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. So sorry your older children didn't react the way you had thought they would. You deserve better. But also remember they love you and are worried about your health right now with good reason. Please try to remain focused on the fact that you ARE doing a good thing for yourself and for them. They may or may not change their minds during the next week but only they can do that. You can't force them to change their opinions. You CAN show them the benefits of vaping by being smoke free and improving your health situation. This is one time that the younger children can likely teach a thing or two to the older siblings.
No way of knowing how the rest of family is going to react. You do have to remember that you have no control over that and their opinions. You only have control of YOU and YOUR own thoughts and feelings. My own adult family was happy when I stopped smoking and started vaping. A month later then were disappointed and sad for me that "it wasn't working" as they put it. Huh???? It was working just fine, in fact better then fine, but in their eyes they only saw it as something I'd do for a very short time and be done smoking AND vaping. Funny thing is that the young grandchildren got it and understood and remain thrilled Grandma doesn't smoke anymore and know and understand more then most adults I run across as far as vaping goes because they listened to me, asked questions and understood.
Do what you can to educate your older children but keep vaping for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!
No way of knowing how the rest of family is going to react. You do have to remember that you have no control over that and their opinions. You only have control of YOU and YOUR own thoughts and feelings. My own adult family was happy when I stopped smoking and started vaping. A month later then were disappointed and sad for me that "it wasn't working" as they put it. Huh???? It was working just fine, in fact better then fine, but in their eyes they only saw it as something I'd do for a very short time and be done smoking AND vaping. Funny thing is that the young grandchildren got it and understood and remain thrilled Grandma doesn't smoke anymore and know and understand more then most adults I run across as far as vaping goes because they listened to me, asked questions and understood.
Do what you can to educate your older children but keep vaping for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sassy...I hear ya! I'm hiding my vaping more than I ever did smoking. She never said I want one of those, but smelling the vapor was all I want to try it, I want a 'pretend cig'...it's terrible. How do I explain it's better for me, but still poison? I went with the ego for batt life vs one that looked like an analog and even went black (although I was dying for hot pink) because I didn't want her to think it was cool...ugh I guess I'll be stealth vaping until I quit...
re: explaining addiction to my kids and/or kids wanting to try my e-cig. My kids ask me about smoking/vaping and why it's only for me and not for them.
I just try to explain it the best that I can. I told them that addiction to smoking or vaping is not something that they ever want to do, I told them that it's an addiction and that addiction is like being a prisoner all the time. Smoking is like being in jail and vaping is like being on a chain. A long chain, but still....
I tell them that they are lucky to be free, and not to make the mistake that I made by starting to smoke. I want to show them and talk to them about it, I want them to see how I struggled and still struggle with it so that they will remember. I want them to remember that vaping is better, but it's not the same as being free like they are.
I just try to explain it the best that I can. I told them that addiction to smoking or vaping is not something that they ever want to do, I told them that it's an addiction and that addiction is like being a prisoner all the time. Smoking is like being in jail and vaping is like being on a chain. A long chain, but still....
I tell them that they are lucky to be free, and not to make the mistake that I made by starting to smoke. I want to show them and talk to them about it, I want them to see how I struggled and still struggle with it so that they will remember. I want them to remember that vaping is better, but it's not the same as being free like they are.
Hi,
I'm sorry that your older kids weren't as supportive as you thought they would had been.
I think you would need to talk to them. Let them know there was no other way that you can quit smoking, you have tried, but it never worked. Tell them vaping is a better alternative. Show them evidence, you can tell them I don't think it's 100% safe, but it's definetly safer then ciggys and that's the very best you can do.
It's not that easy I know, because your older kids just want you to get off them completely, the reason for that is they still think vaping being harmful to your body.
For people that don't smoke it's very hard for them to understand why you can't just quit the habit all together. No one in my family smokes, when I told my older sister that I'm vaping. She wasn't too happy either, first thing she said was, "why don't you just quit all together". To her it just feel likIe it's smoking, and also since it's not FDA approved she thinks it might do more harm then good. I know she just concern about my health. She just told me to becareful with what I'm using and if im not feeling well make sure to go see the doctor.
If there was a choice for them, everyone would whether us quit cold turkey.
Good luck
I wish everything goes well!
Best Regards
I'm sorry that your older kids weren't as supportive as you thought they would had been.
I think you would need to talk to them. Let them know there was no other way that you can quit smoking, you have tried, but it never worked. Tell them vaping is a better alternative. Show them evidence, you can tell them I don't think it's 100% safe, but it's definetly safer then ciggys and that's the very best you can do.
It's not that easy I know, because your older kids just want you to get off them completely, the reason for that is they still think vaping being harmful to your body.
For people that don't smoke it's very hard for them to understand why you can't just quit the habit all together. No one in my family smokes, when I told my older sister that I'm vaping. She wasn't too happy either, first thing she said was, "why don't you just quit all together". To her it just feel likIe it's smoking, and also since it's not FDA approved she thinks it might do more harm then good. I know she just concern about my health. She just told me to becareful with what I'm using and if im not feeling well make sure to go see the doctor.
If there was a choice for them, everyone would whether us quit cold turkey.
Good luck
I wish everything goes well!
Best Regards
Hate to break it to you all, but most people who haven't suffered with nicotine addiction will understand. Not knowing any better, they think we can just stop it all. Facts are, most people who smoke WILL die from it!
We know how lucky we are to have found vaping as an alternative, but someone who doesn't have the addiction will just not understand.
Remember. first off they are your kids and, no matter what age, it's not your place to pander to them or to get them to understand what you do. You do not need their approval for anything, they are your kids, not vice versa.
Now, they are adults and have the right to their own opinion, no matter how misinformed. We all have them! That does not mean, however, they have the right to disrespect their parents wether they are adults or not. If they feel the need to be so disrespectful under your roof, maybe they can find another roof? (I'm not saying kick them out, just put it to them that way. They're adults and they know you could make good on the threat, lol!)
We know how lucky we are to have found vaping as an alternative, but someone who doesn't have the addiction will just not understand.
Remember. first off they are your kids and, no matter what age, it's not your place to pander to them or to get them to understand what you do. You do not need their approval for anything, they are your kids, not vice versa.
Now, they are adults and have the right to their own opinion, no matter how misinformed. We all have them! That does not mean, however, they have the right to disrespect their parents wether they are adults or not. If they feel the need to be so disrespectful under your roof, maybe they can find another roof? (I'm not saying kick them out, just put it to them that way. They're adults and they know you could make good on the threat, lol!)
Wow, this is a heavy thread. All I can say is both the parents and children should be respectful of each other. Having said that, I believe as many do that you are the parent and thus you do not need your children's permission to vape. Good luck.
Interesting thread. Three of my four kids know I'm vaping and are quite pleased about it. One is a nurse and although hesitant and a bit negative initially (she informed me they are not approved by the FDA
) she stated that they have to be 10 times better for my health than analogues and is excited I've made the switch.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the kids think. Do it for you and the ones you love whether they appreciate the effort or not.
) she stated that they have to be 10 times better for my health than analogues and is excited I've made the switch.Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the kids think. Do it for you and the ones you love whether they appreciate the effort or not.
Interesting thread. Three of my four kids know I'm vaping and are quite pleased about it. One is a nurse and although hesitant and a bit negative initially (she informed me they are not approved by the FDA
Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the kids think. Do it for you and the ones you love whether they appreciate the effort or not.
Exactly, it is for you... just like forever it has been said that to quit (by any means) would only work if you were doing it for you! I hope you have a great response next Saturday, but however it ends up going down - you know you're doing the right thing for you!
I still find mixed reactions from smokers and non-, that have all been mentioned here... most recently, a smoking co-worker saw me puff in our board room and asked (again), "so, do those things work?" I said, "it's been over 100 days since I've had a Marlboro..." and handed him the brochure I wrote up to hand out to friends & family with interest (I'm sharing it with anyone else who wants as well - look in my profile/albums for the PDF). A few moments later, he asks, "so, do those things work?"
Way to go, and keep on enjoying!
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