Newbie Intro and Help

Status
Not open for further replies.

timastyle

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
176
20
Los Angeles, CA, USA
I think I may order one of each and see which I like more. Can you let me know some things?

1. What ohm coil comes with the MT3S? On the DV site, it says 2.5 but the voltage range of 3.2-3.7 called out on the Kanger site seem to indicate a 2.2ohm coil. Can someone help me figure it out?
2. What is the standard PT2 coil resistance level and voltage range?
3. What is the standard Davide coil resistance level and voltage range? Also, from the DV site, they recommend the Aspire coils. Is that right?

One more question...I've seen people say that they can't stand clearos. My question is what are the alternatives? Seems to me they're all about the same unless I'm missing something.
 
Last edited:

LisaR

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 6, 2012
1,499
6,649
Martinez, CA
I can answer some of that:

1) MT3S can be sold with different ohms, depending on what the vendor wants to do. Some places will give you a choice when you order. 2.5 is the most common, though. I asked a vendor why one time, and he said he was tired of newbs buying low resistance coils, sticking it on their VVs at too high, burning it out, and then wanting a refund. You can buy replacement coils in various resistances, though.
2) Pretty much the exact same answer. For the coil resistance/voltage question, refer to the chart I linked to on p. 2 of this thread. Some people like a slightly warmer or cooler vape than the chart recommends, though, plus different juices perform differently at different wattages. The vendor you are buying from should tell you what ohms the coil(s) that come with it are.
3) The Davide coils should perform pretty much the same as the PT coils. I'm quite sure you can trust DV's recommendation on which coils to use.

On clearos, people hate them for a variety of reasons. Many of the more basic clearos, such as CE3, CE4, CE5, etc., have a lot of problems with leaking, and can leave a plasticky taste. I was not at all fond of them. Some people have had trouble with leaking and gurgling with the Kanger T3 series, although I have not. There are different issues with different clearos, with fans and haters for each. Some people swear by carto-tanks, and say they are absolutely the best for flavor. Personally, I think they are a lot of trouble. You might move to them eventually, but I would not go there just yet. Some people are very happy sticking with cartos, and find them the most problem free. The "glassomizer" tanks, such as the PT or Davide are generally considered a good middle ground.

Final (?) question... There are all kinds of drip tips out there. It looks like both the PT and Davide take a 510, which is the most common. That means you can buy just about any 510 tip and it will work. They have short ones, long ones, hand carved stone and wood ones, hand blown glass. Many people love to customize their tanks with a cool tip. If you are looking for a shorter set-up, you may just want to look for a "shorty" drip tip. There are a lot of different options, and most are pretty cheap--although some are way high end!
 

timastyle

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
176
20
Los Angeles, CA, USA
I really appreciate the info Lisa! It's helping me quite a bit. The reason I asked about the MT3S was that it was purchased as a single from a local smoke shop with no packaging other than a clear wrapper. Is there a way to check on the coil itself to see?

In regards to the tips, do the different materials they're made from such as stainless, glass, wood, etc affect the flavor/taste any?

Thanks Mark Anthony! A lot of helpful people full of insight here which I'm very thankful for.
 

LisaR

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 6, 2012
1,499
6,649
Martinez, CA
If you have an ohm tester, it's easy! :laugh: Otherwise, yes, but it's going to be a little messy, since you already have juice in it. Take the base off your tank (I usually set my tank upside down in a shot glass while I mess with the head), and unscrew the coil head from it. You're going to need good light and/or reading glasses for this... On the stem below the wicks, there should be very small print that will say 2.5, or whatever. Honestly, though, if that sounds like too much trouble, it probably is. Basically what you are looking for is a good vape. I have some 2.5 heads mixed in with my 1.8s, and I just turn the dial up on my battery to compensate. Even with the 2.5s, most juices can't take full power without tasting a little burnt. If you're putting in a new head and you don't know what it is, start with low power, and turn it up slowly until things taste right to you. I'm pretty sure the Protank heads have the same marking, and I don't know about the Aspires.

As far as drip tips affecting the taste, yes, a little. Glass, of course, will be the cleanest and purest. A lot of people like metal drip tips, but as I mentioned a while back, I can taste them metal tip on the Protank and I don't like it. My husband doesn't mind it at all, though. A lot of the coolest looking drip tips are made from acrylic, and you might get a little taste from that, but probably not. I've heard that certain juices might react with acrylic or delrin (another common material), I've never had a problem. If you start vaping something like Atomic Cinnamacide, you might want to use glass or metal, just in case. And only use it in a glass tank.
 

timastyle

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
176
20
Los Angeles, CA, USA
I went to my local B&M this evening looking for another flavor and they had the PT2 tank for the same price as at DV so I bought it. So far so good. The only thing is that the tank isn't much shorter overall as the MT3S...maybe 1/4".

I have a couple questions about the juices now.

1. From what I understand, the mg of nicotine is in relation to one ml of fluid. If that's the case and say I'm smoking 6mg ones and 3ml a day, would that mean that it's about 18 analogs?

2. Any recommendations for some refreshing liquids without a mentholly aftertaste or too acidic?
 

ccubed

Super Member
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 22, 2013
459
479
Denver, CO
Hi tim. You've gotten tons of good advice from folks here. This is why I am proud to be a ECF member. The helpful attitudes and real friendliness.

I've been using MT3S's and all of them have had 1.8ohm coils in them (from a couple of different vendors). With either a eGo-t upgraded battery (900mah) or Vision Spinners, the MT3S's have worked great. When I couldn't get 1.8ohm, I tried 1.5ohm, but with the eGo-t upgraded battery, my juices tasted a bit burnt. I didn't have a Vision Spinner VV at the time, and haven't tried the 1.5ohm coils since I got the Spinners.

I hope you continue to find vaping options that work to keep you analog free and that you have tons of fun while vaping. Namaste.
 

timastyle

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
176
20
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Thanks Ccubed. I've appreciated everyone's input in helping me. I think I've gotten a pretty good setup put together now but am still curious about a shorter high capacity battery. I don't mind if it's a bit bigger in diameter. Seems like some of the mods that take batteries fill this requirement like to Segelei ZMAX V3 but that introduces a whole new bunch of learning such as battery types and quality.
 

LisaR

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 6, 2012
1,499
6,649
Martinez, CA
Hi tim. You've gotten tons of good advice from folks here. This is why I am proud to be a ECF member. The helpful attitudes and real friendliness.

I've been using MT3S's and all of them have had 1.8ohm coils in them (from a couple of different vendors). With either a eGo-t upgraded battery (900mah) or Vision Spinners, the MT3S's have worked great. When I couldn't get 1.8ohm, I tried 1.5ohm, but with the eGo-t upgraded battery, my juices tasted a bit burnt. I didn't have a Vision Spinner VV at the time, and haven't tried the 1.5ohm coils since I got the Spinners.

I hope you continue to find vaping options that work to keep you analog free and that you have tons of fun while vaping. Namaste.

ccubed, you might go ahead and try your 1.5 ohm heads (if you have any left) with the Spinner. An eGo-t upgrade runs at 3.7v in regulated mode and starts at 4.2v, dropping down to 3.2 or so before shutting off, in unregulated mode. The Spinner goes down to 3.3v regulated, and shouldn't burn juice on a 1.5 ohm head.
 

LisaR

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 6, 2012
1,499
6,649
Martinez, CA
I went to my local B&M this evening looking for another flavor and they had the PT2 tank for the same price as at DV so I bought it. So far so good. The only thing is that the tank isn't much shorter overall as the MT3S...maybe 1/4".

I have a couple questions about the juices now.

1. From what I understand, the mg of nicotine is in relation to one ml of fluid. If that's the case and say I'm smoking 6mg ones and 3ml a day, would that mean that it's about 18 analogs?

2. Any recommendations for some refreshing liquids without a mentholly aftertaste or too acidic?

Thanks Ccubed. I've appreciated everyone's input in helping me. I think I've gotten a pretty good setup put together now but am still curious about a shorter high capacity battery. I don't mind if it's a bit bigger in diameter. Seems like some of the mods that take batteries fill this requirement like to Segelei ZMAX V3 but that introduces a whole new bunch of learning such as battery types and quality.

1. No, not really. Nicotine is not as effectively absorbed into the bloodstream when vaping as when smoking.

2. I'm not going there. Taste is subjective. Ask in the General E-Liquid Discussion and you will get about a million opinions. Some of them will work for you, some won't. I'm going to say that finding the right vendor for e-liquids has been my single biggest expense in the last year+.

Here APV Discussion is where you are going to want to look for more information about mods.

Good luck! :)
 

ccubed

Super Member
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 22, 2013
459
479
Denver, CO
ccubed, you might go ahead and try your 1.5 ohm heads (if you have any left) with the Spinner. An eGo-t upgrade runs at 3.7v in regulated mode and starts at 4.2v, dropping down to 3.2 or so before shutting off, in unregulated mode. The Spinner goes down to 3.3v regulated, and shouldn't burn juice on a 1.5 ohm head.

Thanks Lisa. I bought a 5 pack and tried one of them on my original battery. With what you've told me, I will try them on the Spinner at 3.2volts. Much appreciated.
 

timastyle

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
176
20
Los Angeles, CA, USA
So I've been using the PT2 for a few days and it seems to be a bit airy in the hits. I think I prefer the MT3S hits a bit more. There seems to be less holes at the bottom and are more easy to cover one up for a tighter hit. I have had the Pink Spot Gummy Bear in the PT2 and Caramel Apple in the MT3S. Next exercise will be to try the Caramel in the PT2 and see how the taste varies.

In going to the local B&M, they have a iclear 30 tank for their samples and I liked the way that hit (not very airy at all). I wonder if the Davide that was recommended earlier is similar to the iclear. There don't seem to be too many people that like the iclear on here from the few threads I've seen and I wonder why.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread