Newbie - I've read a lot here and just a few questions

[Racehorse]

Firstly, thank you, all of you, I have learned so much reading here! First few hours I was clueless, next few, less clueless but confused, now I'm in the 3rd phase, ready to purchase a system but as they say in horseracing "too much data" keeping me from picking "my" winner.

Here are my questions, hope you don't mind answering, I'm on dialup so it takes me a long time to read everything and already put in about 15 hours!


What is PG / LG (or whatever the initials are for the fluid base?) and the differences?

Narrowed down to these 3 systems:

Epower 14650, Ego Starter Kit, Kgo.

(Do I really need an Ego-C 3^rdgen with replaceable atomizer?) Twist looks interesting but I need to keep my costs DOWN since I"m going to buy one for my brother, too.


Cart and Batt Wraps....I thought this was a good idea that Volt came out with, but I don't want a Volt. However, I'm a femalel, I kinda don't want black orstainless---like to dress it up a bit. (for me, I want to purchase something in chrome or black for my brother, who doesn't care).

I'm looking at a Bic Brite Liner highlighter about the size of a regular Sharpie and it's smaller than a Super Sharpie and I wouldn't want a battery much larger than the latter super sharpie guy .

Not sure what "throat hit" is, but I think I like lung hit better i.e., I like a nice vapor cloud, not crazy about TH.

I dislike cigar whistle tips, how to make sure I get a nice rounded mouthpiece?

Here's my plan: I quit cold turkey a number of years ago and stayed quit for 7 years and something happened and I went back to cigs. As much as I may come to like vaping, I'm sort of a get it over with person, I will probably use ecigs to get off analogs and when that is done I'll be done with them. I am on a limited income too.

So my system choices are above, what model etc. based on my other thoughts do ya'll think for me? All the alphabet letters with some of the systems confuses me

 

[Theken]

Firstly, thank you, all of you, I have learned so much reading here!

Welcome

What is PG / LG (or whatever the initials are for the fluid base?) and the differences?

PG (Propylene glycol) and VG (vegetable glycerine) refers to 2 of the ingredients inside of the juice you vape. The higher the VG, the more vapor production (plumes of vapor) VG is also typically sweet. PG is tasteless and produces the throat hit.

(Do I really need an Ego-C 3^rdgen with replaceable atomizer?) Twist looks interesting but I need to keep my costs DOWN since I"m going to buy one for my brother, too.

Get what you feel comfortable with, check out some of the low cost items at many vendors registered here. Madvapes is where I got started, lots of options there. Look for starter kits and ask questions in the forums. Some kits come with 2 units which might be ideal for you and your brother.

Not sure what "throat hit" is, but I think I like lung hit better i.e., I like a nice vapor cloud, not crazy about TH.

Should have answered this above.

I dislike cigar whistle tips, how to make sure I get a nice rounded mouthpiece?

There are acrylic tips, glass tips, stainless steel tips, wood tips, plastic tips and they come in just about any and every shape imaginable.

Here's my plan: I quit cold turkey a number of years ago and stayed quit for 7 years and something happened and I went back to cigs. As much as I may come to like vaping, I'm sort of a get it over with person, I will probably use ecigs to get off analogs and when that is done I'll be done with them. I am on a limited income too.

Sounds like my plan when I decided to quit analogs, I bought my first Jessy M kit and haven't smoked once since.

So my system choices are above, what model etc. based on my other thoughts do ya'll think for me? All the alphabet letters with some of the systems confuses me

Anodized Twisted Drip Tip, Pink along with the your twist (they come in all sorts of colors). Also get a range of juices, you said you care less about TH, so go with a higher (or all) VG ratio in juices. Check out the juice reviews in the forums or check out Mister-E-Liquid, ThePinkSpot, or Mr's T Sweetner, all really good liquids!

 

[DancingHeretik]

. . . . "too much data" . . . .

I know what you mean. We all do. Unfortunately, you can only make an educated guess. Coming to ECF, reading, and asking questions is a very good start. That should, at least, keep you from ending up with something totally useless.

But, in the end. The only way you can know exactly, for sure what works best for you is experience. You might try buying 2 totally different kinds of set-ups (Of course, the most promising, sure-fire ones you can find.) And, then try them both. Then give your least favorite to your brother.

Did I say that?! But, it would give you more experience more quickly!

What is PG / LG (or whatever the initials are for the fluid base?) and the differences?

What Theken said.

However, I would add that PG not only adds throat hit, but also carries flavor better, and that VG is a lot thicker and can easily clog atomizers. There are some that use VG only. If you want to go that route, I would recommend asking someone who knows more about how to make that work because I use mostly PG with just a little VG (so don't know enough to advise you on that).

Narrowed down to these 3 systems:

Epower 14650, Ego Starter Kit, Kgo.

(Do I really need an Ego-C 3^rdgen with replaceable atomizer?) Twist looks interesting but I need to keep my costs DOWN since I"m going to buy one for my brother, too.

Cart and Batt Wraps....I thought this was a good idea that Volt came out with, but I don't want a Volt. However, I'm a femalel, I kinda don't want black orstainless---like to dress it up a bit. (for me, I want to purchase something in chrome or black for my brother, who doesn't care).

I'm looking at a Bic Brite Liner highlighter about the size of a regular Sharpie and it's smaller than a Super Sharpie and I wouldn't want a battery much larger than the latter super sharpie guy.

All 3 of those are decent set-ups. But, it's not just about the battery. What's more complicated is the delivery system (atomizer, cartomizer, clearomizer, tank, or whatever).

I think the most recommended set-ups for beginners are a Kgo kit with LR cartomizers from Hoosier (if you want a fat batt) or a Volt from Smokeless Image (if you want a skinny e-cig that's closer to the size of an actual cigarette).

If you want to dress them up:
If you go with the Volt, you already know the answer to that.
If you want a fat batt, check out these pretty batteries at Health Cabin.

I like pretty colors too. But, I don't like anything too girly. Maybe, you should try The Women's Room, a forum here on ECF. They can probably give you more ideas than I can.

Just ask if you have any more questions. And, welcome to ECF!

 

[Kay1959]

If you want the KGO, I've found a place where you can order different colors, including pink.

KGO/eGo Electronic Cigarette Starter Kit | Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes

There is also mod skins. If you don't like the selection they have, you can always do a custom job like I did for my Provari.
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Something else that works, if you aren't interested in those, are fingernail decorations. Back when I was using my eGo batteries, I went to WalMart and picked up some of those little decorations that women put on their fingernails, like little flowers and butterflies, and decorated my eGo with those.

Theken basically answered the rest of your questions I think. There are acrylic drip tips. I prefer those over the other options, because glass could break in your mouth, and I don't like clicking my teeth against a metal or aluminum drip tip. Something you might want to consider. Here's Madvapes acrylic drip tips.

Dripper Tips I also think they look more 'girly' than the plain metal ones.

Happy shopping! and Welcome to ECF!

Edited to add: Oh, and Theken suggested getting one starter kit and splitting it between you and your brother. I would advise against that, as it would leave you with only one battery per person, NOT a good idea.

 

[Theken]

Edited to add: Oh, and Theken suggested getting one starter kit and splitting it between you and your brother. I would advise against that, as it would leave you with only one battery per person, NOT a good idea.

Not always, I was referring to those kits that come with 2 batteries. For example: http://freedomsmokeusa.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=1584 This is the kit I first started with, for my girlfriend and I.

 

[Kay1959]

I'm not trying to start any disagreement here.
Most starter kits come with 2 batteries and one charger. If two people live together, they might get away with having one kit between them. If not, who gets the charger? and who goes without? Secondly, if you are both using a battery, and the batteries goes out, you are both without a device, correct?

 

[Jixchel]

I agree with everything above with the exception of splitting a kit with your brother for all the reasons Kay said. I just wanted to add, if you dislike whistle tip cigar tips, then you definately don't want the ego-c changable system, as the cartridge tanks for that system are all whistle tip. I would go for the kgo myself if I were starting all over again. I'm female too, but I prefer the stainless myself. If I want to girl it up, I grab some fingernail decals and make my own designer batteries LOL

 

[Suthrnbuckhunter]

Being fairly new to vaping myself I understand your confushion.However,the good folks above have addressed your questions very indepth.I'd like to try to give you a bit more advise as to how to save a few bucks while trying out the vape lifestyle.This will get you started without spending a ton of money on "kits".I got 7 people at my shop started on vaping for well under $40.00 each (bought all at once and saved shipping).The battery I used to get them started was the ego 650mah passthru.This battery will allow you to charge and vape at the same time as long as you are near a usb port,ie computer,usb wall charger,usb car charger.The battery can be used as any other battery ( without being connected) but if it runs down,you can connected it with the included usb cable and continue to vape while recharging.It also is available in pink.Im not trying to discourage you from buying a kit but I would sugjest you give this a look over 1st and maybe try this to see if vaping is right for you befor spending the money on a kit.As I said,Ive gotten 7 people at my shop started and to date,they are all very happy with vaping and they are thrilled that they did not buy the more expensive kits to start with.I went to my doctor last week and while there explained to him about my vaping and he said his son was after him to give up smoking,so I sent him the following info in an email.Im new here with so few posts,I hope the links work,LOL.If not maybe some others with this same knowledge will chime in and help you to these products...anyhwo,here goes..btw these are from Vapor Crave and I have to say tht Ive been very happy with all the service and products from this site.Let me add,ll you would ned to get started is far as the cartos are concerned is one box between you and you brother.(order more if needed later...ok Lemme see if this will post the links for me...I hope Ive been a bit of help and not made things more cornfusing LOL..good luck
remember this is an email to my doctor so
Joyetech eGo-T/eGo-C 650mah USB Passthrough Battery


the above link will take you to the Battery to purchase







Boge Low res Cartomizers 5pc

this link will take you to the cartomizers to purchase..these will be empty carts,and you fill them with the e-liquid of your choice



510/901 Transparent Drip Tips

this link will take you to the tip for the carts..(mouth piece)



These items are all the hardware you need to vape.the only thing you need after this is an e-liuid,which is sold on the same site.I have some that you are welcome to try rather than purchase any.E-liquids are the finnicky part of vaping as everyones tastes are different. If you are a menthol cig smoker you will find a great deal of vape juices that will make you happy.If you are a reg flavor cig smoker,you will have to make a slight trade off for flavor,being its very hard to find a vape juice that will taste exactly like a cig.....e-liquids are made from either vegetable glycerin (VG) or propylene glycol (PG),or a combination of both,Nicotine,and food grade flavoring extracts.So,it is easy to immitate a menthol cig, but very hard to immitate a burning leaf,hence the difficultty in the reg flavor cig.There are a few that come close to it.best thing to remember is,most vapers lose all desire for the taste of burning leaves in a very short period....as far as liquids and where to buy them...there re e-liquid and vaping sites all over the internet...not hard to get to.the items above will get you going without spending a ton of money on KITS...





one thing to keep in mind is that various e-cig companys sell batteries in diffent threding sizes,meaning the carts from one may or may not fit on yours...the ego system I sending you links to uses the 510 threding...so when you look for pretty Lil attacthments and things you will be looking for things that fit the 510...the carts above are Boge 510 carts....the battery is an eGo t ,anmd all ego items are 510 threaded



I hope I gave you enough info here to help you get started,if ya need to ask me anything ,please feel free to call.My cell is off after 7 pm LOL, if I dont shut the damned thing off Ill be getting calls from folks that think I like to work all hours of the night ..

 

[Jermania]

I agree with buck hunter on this one. Those kits come with far too much nonsense, and do not provide people with easy, good vaping equipment. For instance, I had a friend that started vaping with a kit, and it included nothing but attys. Using an atty to drip is a pain in the rear, and once his attys burned out, he gave up on vaping all together. There are far easier methods that provide an adequate vaping experience. The passthrough Ego is the way to go for your first battery, and a clearomizer is the easiest attachment to learn with. When starting out, it is best to know you have a system you can depend on, and as you gain more experience and confidence you can try and add new setups. Keeping a pack of LR Boge cartos is always a good idea as well. These are all devices that are cheap, easy, and reliable.

 

[Karla Lyle]

I have owned both the Ego and the Kgo and I definitely recommend the Kgo by far. Cheaper price and more power. I just ordered a Kgo kit and a few other things for my sister from Hooserecig.com yesterday and with the 5% off and free shipping if you spend $55 I believe they have the best price. The code is 5off. Great prices on everything and a great company to deal with. The Kgo kit is only like $42 or something with the discount but you will probably need a few other things such as juice so it is very easy to get to $55.

I had the Ego T first and felt I needed more power and the Kgo was perfect. Kept me off cigarettes for the first couple months. I have now gone on to bigger and better mods but the Kgo is a great place to start. I highly recommend against any of the Eco T's C's A's or B's. I suggest you start with cartomizers first and then maybe a good atomizer like the i06 or Cisco 306 if you would like to try dripping. I thought I hated dripping until I discovered them. Also it took me a lot of money and time to find good juices that I really liked. I learned very quickly that recommendations and reviews mean nothing. I listened to so many and bought a ton that I thought I would like that I hated. Check out the PIF group. Great way to try new juices and trade juices that are not for you without losing a ton of money. Good Luck and WELCOME!!

 

[Pappy]

Just for reference, here's the KGO next to a Sharpie and a Highlighter.

 

[VapingRulz]

I will second the recommendation for a KGO with LR cartomizers. To me, that it a terrific and fuss-free setup - and it works. As someone already mentioned, you can get them in a variety of colors. A plain acrylic drip tip is all I use, though I do have a couple that are pretty colors.

Do not buy one kit and try to split it with your brother. You will each need two batteries and your own chargers if you expect vaping to work and get you off the cigarettes.

You will probably need to try different e-liquids in a variety of mixtures/strengths to find your "go-to" favorite. You say you like a "lung hit" and that's what people are referring to when they talk about throat hit. A PG/VG mix of 60/40 or 70/30 would probably work well for you. Buy e-liquid in 0mg, 18mg, and 24mg strengths in case you need to adjust the nicotine level.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Up at the cottage on my IPhone. I have some cost efficient packages for you and your brother but it's tough to do it here at the cottage- slow and poor connection. Will post on Mon. when back in the city on a pc. These packages will include all your choices plus a few alternatives.
Cheers.

 

[DancingHeretik]

In case you decide on an Ego passthrough, I just found a wonderful deal at o2vapor.com. Use coupon code: lifeisgood to receive the discount.

Price after discount:
650 - $10.00
900 - $12.00

That's a good price even for just a regular battery! But, the price is only good through the 20th, next Friday.

I've never used this site before. Does anyone know if they're reputable? They do look very small. Maybe they're new.

 

[Theken]

I'm not trying to start any disagreement here.
Most starter kits come with 2 batteries and one charger. If two people live together, they might get away with having one kit between them. If not, who gets the charger? and who goes without? Secondly, if you are both using a battery, and the batteries goes out, you are both without a device, correct?

No argument from me, just offering my 2 cents and suggesting what worked great for me getting started. USB chargers cost like $5 (if not less). The aforementioned starter kit works while being charged via USB as well. It worked beautifully for us, of course I have moved on in devices and now have a museum's worth of PVs and vaping goodies and those devices are no longer used.

To be honest, if I knew then what I know now I would have just gotten a ProVari from the get go.

 

[froginblender]

Look , don't confuse yourself, cause it can be very confusing if your a noobie.
I've been vaping for over 2 years now tried everything, and I can set you up with the perfect vape, better then anything else your going to read..just because i've worked in e-cig shop, and I know what works and what doesn't work.

Forget Ego Tank kits....(horrible plastic taste while vaping) they suck.
forget the Ego C kits....(same as above).
Do get the Ego Twist and purchase 2 or 3 of these (510 Tank Twin Coil Clearomizer 1.5 ohm

Buy them here: Vapingzone
Just read the reviews...only things that works as well (but you have to drip into atomizer) is a Low resistance 306 atomizer with 306 drip tip.

But let's get away from the confusion....i'm sure drip tip...306 is all chinese to you sooooo.....just get an ego kit , it doesn't eve n matter if it's a C, T, whatever...all your going to use is the battery anyway with the Twin coil clearomizer i mentioned above o.k.

Look... you can use an Atomizer...a cartomizer...a clearomizer...a Dual coil tank , they will all screw on and vape (smoke) on an ego battery....they are all 510 connections.
Anytime you buy something for your Ego, you will want to make sure they are 510...most everything out there is 510 based, but some are 808, 901 connection etc. but mostly everything will be made 510 because they are the most popular type connection, battery that people vape with

This kit isn't a twist..but you won't need a twist with these dual coil Low resistance mega cartomizers....you will get plumes of vapor from the cartomizers that are included (2).

Choice 1 - VZ eGo-Dual Coil Cartomizer Passthrough 1000mAh Starter Kit - Black
You can also use these batteries on a usb thru your computer..so you can vape and not even use the battery up! stick the cord into bottom of battery and vape away! (make sure to buy the 4.5ml clearomizers i talked about, they will be your favorite item to vape with on your ego battery .....ok

Choice 2- This is instead of the twist..it's Variable volt 4, 5, & 6 volt...and comes with 2 sets of batteries!
eGo-V6 VV Mod Kit - (4V-5V-6V)

Choice 3 - Ego Twist...i don't know of any good kits...here's 650mah bats for $21.00
vaperite

Ok, so now you have your picks...
just get any ego kit 650 mah (lasts about 7 hrs. hard vaping) or 1000 mah (lasts 10) hard vaping hours.
mah = mili amp hours....how long the battery will last basically.

I would choose Choice 1 i gave you, i have those cartomizers...they last all day hold 4.5 mils of juice....you can chain vape it, and won't have to re-fill till late at night.

So with that kit , you can use any 510 (connection type) atomizer, cartomizer, Dual coil tank, clearomizer.
The links i gave u right above are for my favorite items....i won't steer you wrong, over 2 yrs. of vaping i know what you want man, you want some heavy vapor as if you were smoking...well....

Go with choice 1 & purchase the Vapingzone clearomizers too.
Then you can buy twist batteries whenever you want...or get a twist kit (i can't find any, i think they only sell the batteries now) but make sure you get the vapingzone clearomizers...it's the best dam thing for vaping i've ever tried.


Hope i helped you out....whew..i've got carpal tunnel in my hand now...lol.

Firstly, thank you, all of you, I have learned so much reading here! First few hours I was clueless, next few, less clueless but confused, now I'm in the 3rd phase, ready to purchase a system but as they say in horseracing "too much data" keeping me from picking "my" winner.

Here are my questions, hope you don't mind answering, I'm on dialup so it takes me a long time to read everything and already put in about 15 hours!


What is PG / LG (or whatever the initials are for the fluid base?) and the differences?

Narrowed down to these 3 systems:

Epower 14650, Ego Starter Kit, Kgo.

(Do I really need an Ego-C 3^rdgen with replaceable atomizer?) Twist looks interesting but I need to keep my costs DOWN since I"m going to buy one for my brother, too.


Cart and Batt Wraps....I thought this was a good idea that Volt came out with, but I don't want a Volt. However, I'm a femalel, I kinda don't want black orstainless---like to dress it up a bit. (for me, I want to purchase something in chrome or black for my brother, who doesn't care).

I'm looking at a Bic Brite Liner highlighter about the size of a regular Sharpie and it's smaller than a Super Sharpie and I wouldn't want a battery much larger than the latter super sharpie guy .

Not sure what "throat hit" is, but I think I like lung hit better i.e., I like a nice vapor cloud, not crazy about TH.

I dislike cigar whistle tips, how to make sure I get a nice rounded mouthpiece?

Here's my plan: I quit cold turkey a number of years ago and stayed quit for 7 years and something happened and I went back to cigs. As much as I may come to like vaping, I'm sort of a get it over with person, I will probably use ecigs to get off analogs and when that is done I'll be done with them. I am on a limited income too.

So my system choices are above, what model etc. based on my other thoughts do ya'll think for me? All the alphabet letters with some of the systems confuses me

 

[TBinAZ]

In case you decide on an Ego passthrough, I just found a wonderful deal at o2vapor.com. Use coupon code: lifeisgood to receive the discount.

Price after discount:
650 - $10.00
900 - $12.00

That's a good price even for just a regular battery! But, the price is only good through the 20th, next Friday.

I've never used this site before. Does anyone know if they're reputable? They do look very small. Maybe they're new.

Wow! Nice find! I'm ordering a 650 today. This really is a can't pass it up deal for an eGo passthrough. What can I say, I'm a gear junkie. LOL

And by the way, DancingHeretik, their ordering page/process is right up there with the big hitters. I say no worries. Pretty cheap shipping too. It does appear to be a recent start up, but they have done a good job with the presentation.

 

[Racehorse]

Wow, I love this place already, ya'll are so forthcoming, helpful and generous with your thoughts and advice.

I do plan to share my newbie vaping experience once I'm set up, and look forward to "giving back" to this wonderful forum.

The devil is in the details---I NEVER would have known about the EgoC and the whistletip, for instance. Which for me, is a very important data item.

The forum-approved vendors all appear to be top-notch, too. It's great to have these things "vetted" before starting. Count me as a person who very much appreciates customer service, like in the "olden days". Locally, I still shop at mom&pop stores in my little town, and a few dollars more is totally worth the goodwill, personalization, and guidance I wouldn't receive at a big box store. Sellers who "know their product" and even have experience with the products they sell is essential.

Again, thank you. I'm so glad I found this place.


@vaporeyes, looking forward to your input when you get back to civilization. I fully appreciate the internet problems that come with being out in the middle of the woods.
@froggie, special thanks for all that typing w/RSI which I have myself

 

[Racehorse]

Back again after perusing "Pictures of your Setup" topic. Some beauties there. The real afficianados like Vaptamist will have your head spinning, like fine automobile collectors, so many gorgeous rigs!

(future suggestion, it would help newbies if with photo everyone lists what the setups are, and all the accessories. Cause we newbies don't know what the heck we're looking at. I saw one with "Line" written on it but have no idea what the branding is. Stuff with ZEN written on them looked quite elegant too, and also loved that Orion, but I understand the site has closed or something for now and were very hard to get before that anyway.

I like elegant and/or simple though. That;s what I learned looking thru the posts.

I agree with Buckhunter and Jermina that "kits" may not be the way to go. I DO need a vendor to walk me thru what I need (preferably on the phone since I live bordering National Forest and only dial-up internet) to buy ala-carte.

I'd like to begin with "sufficient" system----however, I absolutely dislike purchasing stuff twice.......I'm NOT a collector, I like to keep my possessions down to a bare minimum.

I bleieve it helps to know what *kind* of consumer you are when on the precipe of purchasing something. I could have bought a Walmart weedeater and toss it every year due to dried up bladders, screens and carburetor parts you can't order, and/or take to small engine repairs guys to fix and then it isn't fixed. So, I bought a Stihl. Not top of the line, but one with some "options" where it could grow, electric start, serviceable by their large network of authentic distributors and at least i know when I spent the $$ I have something that will last, can be repaired, parts are in existence. I buy real sheepskin slippers at LL Bean so I don't have to re-buy slippers every year because fake ones fall apart. I still have my original duck boots from 15 years ago, because they held up.

So, think of me in terms of being a Stihl / LL Bean kinda gal....budget conscious but won't buy cheap JUNK just to save $$$ either. Most bang for the buck, (horse-for-the-course) is a winner for me.

I probably shouldn't start out with anything severely "under-powered" ----- but I don't need the rolls royce either.

As for the big systems, Provari looks a little too big for me, so does Silver bullet, but the Baby Bullet looked great but I understand is no longer in production. Is there anything small iike those? I loved that Orion one for sure. Was smallish elegant sleekly designed, like scandinavian furniture.

I guess I could start with a kgo or ego and then maybe purchase a step up from there --- but that would be as far as I go, and I would probably "donate" the system I started with to a deserving analog smoker just to help them off those things. I know this in advance. I will not be buying, collecting, and experimenting all over the place, I already have TOO MANY HOBBIES

I definitely do not want whistlestop mouthpiece, I definitely need some vapor cloud (I'm using a throw away now called a SQAURE and like most throwaways, there's not much vapor), and I absoutely dislike any kind of tight draw (which this SQUARE thingie has but it's all they had at my smokeshop.)

I also don't want to be fiddling around with stuff too much, due to arthritis in hands, and I'm not a "tinkerer".

I DO want to succeed and never buy a stinkie again.

 

[Racehorse]

Just for reference, here's the KGO next to a Sharpie and a Highlighter.

THIS is utterly helpful! Thank you! visuals are critical to newbies. Thanks for taking the time to post this for me. Would make a good bookmark to use again.

KGO looking awfully good --- for me and for brother, esp latter. Truth be told I myself "could" go a little bigger if I had to. LOL