All personal vaporizers do NOT have smoke......they have vapor. They are all 'smokeless.' Smokeless Image cleverly used the term 'smokeless' in their name.
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All personal vaporizers do NOT have smoke......they have vapor. They are all 'smokeless.' Smokeless Image cleverly used the term 'smokeless' in their name.
Welcome to the family! There is a LOT of information here and help also abounds. If you have an e-cig brick and mortar shop near you, go talk to them. Look at the stuff, get a feel for what is there. Looking at the pictures online is good but no substitute for seeing it in person. Many here have walked the path you are now starting on.
Thank you marlou. It felt like he was insinuating that the smokeless image products don't have any vapor, that's why I asked the question.
You went the better route than me
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Mr outlaw, thank you so much for your advice and your videos are awesome! I just have two questions and I will be on my merry way.
1) On a regular cartomizer, how do you tell when it is ready to be refilled? Is it when you get the burned smoke taste (which is usually when I end up throwing mine out) or when there is no vapor at all anymore?
2)How many refills can a cartomizer take? Can I use it repeatedly or do they need to be thrown out and replaced periodically - and how do you tell when they should be replaced?
Thank you!
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Also- I understand that you can not mix juices with a single set of cartomizers. Do you guys suggest SI Watermelon or Grape?
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Thank you for the compliment. I make the videos because I don't want people to have to go through what so many of us did.
In answer to your questions, I'll give you my opinion.
1. When to refill becomes a guessing game. As you vape, you kind of learn. You don't want to wait until the burnt taste because at that point, it's too late. Once it burns, you will always get that flavor to some extent. The good thing about the SI carto is that it doesn't burn as easy. Basically, when the amount of vapor goes down, and the draw gets airy, you need to refill. You can also pop off the endcap and see how dry it is. The best thing you can do is top it off every once in awhile. To top it off, just pop the endcap and drop some juice in or do a condom fill will maybe 10-15 drops instead of the full 1 ml. It becomes a learning process. It is much more important to keep the vertical coil cartomizers wet and topped off because if they start to dry, they burn.
2. Cartos are designed to be disposable. You can refill them several times and it depends on the juice you use. If you use the SI juice you will be able to refill and reuse more than something that is 50-100% vg. Thick juices and dark juices will clog the filler faster and burn out the coil faster. You can refill and reuse until one of three things happen, 1, with a full carto, there is little to no vapor, unless you overfilled, it means the coil is dead or clogged up. 2, the draw becomes so tight that you can suck through it. With this, check and make sure the battery is clean, if it is, the carto is clogged and it's time to replace. 3, it begins to taste funny. This means the filler is clogged or the coil has so much gunk, it's giving a weird taste.
When I was using the cartos with SI juice and 70% vg, I was getting about 3-4 weeks on them, refilling 1-2 times a day. I used three different one a day, all with a different flavor. I always looked at it this way, if I get 10 refills, everything else is a bonus. Think about it..
Keeping in mind that a carto will give you about the same amount of drags as 6-10 analogs, figure it this way. A carto costs about $1.50 whether it is prefilled or blank. A ml of SI juice is 40 cents but you can get juice for as little as 20cents or free. If I only get 10 refills on a prefilled, so a total of 11 ml, it would cost me $5,50 for the equivalent of about 4 packs of analogs using si juice. I was spending $6.50 a pack. Now if you get more than 10, which you will, you are really saving.
When you move onto the clearos that have wicks, the life becomes longer because you can clean them and dry burn the gunk off the coil. I have been using the same Phoenix cartomizer now for a month and I refill it twice a day. The Phoenix cost me $2.25 and I have already used at least 60ml in it. Now I get juice from several places much cheaper than SI, but let's use their price. 60ml*.40= $24 plus the $2.25, so call it $27. That's the equivalent to 24 packs of cigarettes in drags, which would have cost me $156
So, don't throw them out after 1 use, but don't be afraid to dispose of them after 10 uses either.
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Oh, one of my favorite juices is the SI watermelon. The only watermelon I have has that's better is Vapedudes watermelon drip. The SI version has a great flavor with a little hit to it and the Vapedudes one is sweeter with less zing.
SI sells two grapes, grape and classic gape. I prefer the classic grape, it tastes more like koolaide.
I suggest the sampler carto packs, then you can try them all. Though flavors will mix, you can refill them with a different juice so long as its the same profile. For example, when I started I bought the strong sampler pack and a bottle of mint juice. The strong pack comes with 3 different menthols. When they were empty, I refilled all of them with the mint juice. The first fill tasted like a combo if the flavors but the second fill tasted like the mint. I did the same with a grape carto. When it was empty, I filled with watermelon.
You can even refill it with a different companies juice. Again, so long as it is the same flavor profile that may taste good together. Don't try and put watermelon in a coffee or tobacco carto though.
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SI sells two grapes, grape and classic gape. I prefer the classic grape, it tastes more like koolaide.
I suggest the sampler carto packs, then you can try them all. Though flavors will mix, you can refill them with a different juice so long as its the same profile. For example, when I started I bought the strong sampler pack and a bottle of mint juice. The strong pack comes with 3 different menthols. When they were empty, I refilled all of them with the mint juice. The first fill tasted like a combo if the flavors but the second fill tasted like the mint. I did the same with a grape carto. When it was empty, I filled with watermelon.
You can even refill it with a different companies juice. Again, so long as it is the same flavor profile that may taste good together. Don't try and put watermelon in a coffee or tobacco carto though.
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Wow, you should really have your own blog. You write very concisely and analytically. I think I will stick to the cartomizers for now. The phoenix stuff with the syringes in your videos seem a bit over my head.
I still cant believe all this technology is so cheap, or that SI would sell a case for 49 cents and jewel caps for like 25 cents. So Amazing.
Thank you again and I'll check back when/if I ever feel the need to upgrade
. I'll keep up with your videos too!
Wow, you should really have your own blog. You write very concisely and analytically. I think I will stick to the cartomizers for now. The phoenix stuff with the syringes in your videos seem a bit over my head.
I still cant believe all this technology is so cheap, or that SI would sell a case for 49 cents and jewel caps for like 25 cents. So Amazing.
Thank you again and I'll check back when/if I ever feel the need to upgrade
Cartomizers is the best place for a new person to start IMHO. They are simple and easy, just make sure you top them off on a regular basis.
When I got started, I swore I only wanted to buy prefilled, then I saw steeljans video on how to refill them. So I said, "I can do that". Then I swore I would only use cartos and that I didnt need the clearos or a tank. Now I have a vivi nova. Its a learning process. I am done though. I am very happy with my phoenix and vivi nova. I have no need for variable voltage or mods. I just want to be able to vape my juice and not have it spill out. SInce I am a landscaper, I need something I can carry around in my pocket and not worry about and I also want simplicity. Those products give me that. THe only reason I stopped the cartos is because I vape so much (about 6ml a day) I got tired of refilling them all day. I would have to carry juice with me to refill on the road and got tired of it. But, there is nothing wrong with them. So long as you can refill them, they are cost efficient compared to analogs and easy to use.
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