Newbie Question about Liquid

[Gratch]

Hiya Folks! New to the forum, great place so much info.

I have a question for the vaping masses. Being a newbie to vaping (about 5 days or so) I got myself a few different strength liquids as i had no clue what mg the rollies i smoked had. the 6mg is fine i do find myself tooting far to much of this but when i smoke the 12mg the veins in my neck feel like they have cramp. I know nicotine constricts the blood vessels is this what is happeneing to mine and is it dagerous?

 

[Beamslider]

Only a doctor could answer that question. But if it makes you feel bad don't do it.

Too much nicotine for me makes me jittery and gives me a headache and stomach upset.

 

[Gratch]

Only a doctor could answer that question. But if it makes you feel bad don't do it.

Too much nicotine for me makes me jittery and gives me a headache and stomach upset.

Thanks Beamslider, I generally try to avoid Doctors as much as possible, thems the fools that suggested Zyban. eeeeek!

 

[Beamslider]

This site is an anti smoking site but list symptoms of too much nicotine.

Nicotine Poisoning: It's Real - Quit Smoking Community

If they are the same flavor you could mix them for a lower mg/ml level and try it out. 50/50 6mg and 12mg should be 9 mg I think

 

[Gratch]

Thanks for the link Beamslider. I did try mixing some strengths but i got the same feeling, it seems any 12mg in my juice gives me that feeling. I guess it is 6mg for now and more tooting.

 

[cakes488]

When I first started I definitely was ODing on nicotine. It took me a week or two to self regulate.

 

[Gratch]

When I first started I definitely was ODing on nicotine. It took me a week or two to self regulate.

Hi Cakes448. What mg liquid were you using?

 

[stols001]

Um... are the 12 and 6 the same flavor? The same PG/VG mix? From the same company? There are other factors than nicotine, however everyone's different. It could well be your nicotine and you just need to stick to 6 for now, but honestly, everyone chainvapes in the beginning, well, a lot of people. I know I did. So, I might not worry to much until you figure out how your vaping settles down (I vape far less than I did starting.) I started with a sub-ohm tank (gifted by my kid) didn't know much about changes in vaping and whatnot, I was using 12 nic at like 60 watts and complaining of sx. Heh, I think that was my first post on here and someone kindly pointed out that what I was experiencing was likely an OD of nicotine, than anything. He was correct in his assessment, I lowered wattage and nic to 6, then bought a Nautilus tank and am vaping MTL at higher nic.

That said, I did find out I was pg intolerant (at least as far as inhaling it), so you should be assessing all factors. It's easy to assume it's the nic when it may be a flavor that's getting you or something else.

However, consulting a doc is a good idea, your sx sound a bit alarming. Best of luck.

Anna

 

[Gratch]

Hiya Stols thanks for the reply. I got a few bottles of all the same pg/vg quantities just different flavours, 2 were 6mg and one 12mg. I am just a tootle puffer but yes i did use it a lot the first few days. However i was fine on the 6mg it was just the 12 that caused problems. I have since stuck to 6 as any ammount of 12 i use gives me those symptoms.
My only problem now is i have run out of 6 and my vapemail doenst arrive for a few days. Eeeek! heh

 

[stols001]

You can do a quick search of who sells USP grade VG or PG (I'd assume VG would be easiest to get) and cut your 12 juice in half by diluting it with that (or both VG/PG if you can get your hands on both). Should be easy to find somewhere near you. If 6 works for you, then that's what you should vape with... for now. Don't worry, I doubt you'll chain vape forever. I was SHOCKED when I woke up at like 4 a.m., couldn't find my vape, didn't want to wake my husband (was pretty sure it was in the bedroom) and was AMAZED that I could JUST WAIT, when normally, my modus operandi (whenever I woke up) was to immediately stagger outside and smoke a cigarette and drink coffee. Analogues were freely available to me, I just didn't want them. It was weird. I asked and lots of folks stated they could go a LONG TIME without vaping, like hours.... I was so relieved not to be tied to that half-hour to an hour MAX without smoking....

Good luck!

Anna

 

[Gratch]

Thanks Anna
Well my plan is for the time until my vapemail arrives (mmm cant wait to try Hisenburg) Is to only go vape when i used to go smoke, to leave the mod downstairs where i smoke and to use the 12 but only a few puffs at a time and see how that goes.
I am still amazed that i havnt had a roll up in 3 days now. This is the longest i have not smoked for well since i started smoking. Heh.

 

[JCinFLA]

@Gratch - If you have a Walmart or other place near you with a pharmacy section...you'll find VG there. Walmart's usually comes in a bottle that's about 168mL or so, and is sometimes the HUMCO brand. You can use that to cut your 12mg eliquid down somewhat. I wouldn't try mixing it 1/2 and 1/2 though, unless you're OK with a quite a bit higher VG/PG ratio. Maybe take 10mL of your eliquid and add 2-3mL of the VG and see if it vapes OK without causing your problem.

It used to be on the regular shelves out front in the pharmacy section of WM. Some have said their WM's have moved it to behind the counter and you have to ask for it. If they ask you what you want it for...just say your girlfriend/wife, etc. sent you to get some for her soap-making project.

 

[Gratch]

Thanks for the info JCinFLA. In the uk here. I will give the 12 a go sparingly but if it is the same as before then i will go get a bottle from a chemists.

Happy vaping!

 

[stols001]

OK Gratch but if you find your problem persists, and you're getting that sensation, I would stop vaping immediately and get checked out. I don't know where in the UK you can get VG (and you could also just get some 6 mg from a vape shop, surely?) If it's working for you, it's been 3 days without rollups (those are HARD) I just don't want to see you set back by changing up your vaping routine if you don't have to....

Anna

 

[Gratch]

Thanks for the caring messages i love this forum. I will deffo not go back. I am waiting on my vapemail its cheap but good stuff as i am financially challenged at the moment heh

 

[ssbowtie1]

What are you vaping it out of? 12mg in a pen mod is fine but is way too strong out of a subohm tank.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

What are you vaping it out of? 12mg in a pen mod is fine but is way too strong out of a subohm tank.

Everybody is different. I have some 12mg 30/70 PG/VG in a Baby Beast right now. It often packs just the wallop I need.

 

[DaveP]

Hiya Stols thanks for the reply. I got a few bottles of all the same pg/vg quantities just different flavours, 2 were 6mg and one 12mg. I am just a tootle puffer but yes i did use it a lot the first few days. However i was fine on the 6mg it was just the 12 that caused problems. I have since stuck to 6 as any ammount of 12 i use gives me those symptoms.
My only problem now is i have run out of 6 and my vapemail doenst arrive for a few days. Eeeek! heh

I vaped 24mg for the first couple of years on a Vivi Nova (not much of a vapor producer). Once I started with rebuildable RTA tanks I quickly saw the need to taper down. I ended up at 3mg/ml nic strength and have stayed there for several years.

If you're like me you can taper down as much as you like without having nic cravings. Once you go to zero nic it's just flat tasting. 3mg/ml puts back the little bit of nic bite your brain needs to sense that there's nic in the mix.

BTW, we like to refer to our vape as "vaping" or "vapor" to separate it from smoking. Lots of people refer to vapor as smoke when they criticize our vaping habit. We usually reply that there's no smoke in the vapor and nothing is being burned.

Welcome to ECF, Gratch!