Hello everyone. I am wanting to get into a RDA/RBA, but I don't know the first thing about building coils, wick, etc. I have watched a few videos on the basic coil build. But my questions are.... What is a good RDA/RBA for a beginner? Where is a good place to buy one? I am probably going to get a clone when I get one. I would like one I can do single coils on. I was told if I build my coils at 1.4 ohm and higher I can still use it on my mvp? Is that accurate?? Sorry for so many questions, but I know you guys can help me. Thanks alot for all the help.
NEWBIE!!! What should I buy????
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I believe that is right for the MVP.... It's 1.4 or 1.5 I cant remember....
First thing is you should read up more about ohms law etc.... You will be relatively safe building on a regulated mod such as an MVP because it has failsafes, but if you don't know what can be dangerous about building your own coils you should still be searching...
First off you should buy an ohm meter so you can check your resistance, and check for the things like dead shorts..
The kayfun is my favorite RBA, and you will probably get that a lot from other members as well. Easy to build on, and it is extremely convenient.
As far as where to buy... There are a million different places you can buy these products. If you decide to go the ebay route, make sure they have a lot of ratings, and make sure they are in USA so it doesn't take a month to get to your door..
First thing is you should read up more about ohms law etc.... You will be relatively safe building on a regulated mod such as an MVP because it has failsafes, but if you don't know what can be dangerous about building your own coils you should still be searching...
First off you should buy an ohm meter so you can check your resistance, and check for the things like dead shorts..
The kayfun is my favorite RBA, and you will probably get that a lot from other members as well. Easy to build on, and it is extremely convenient.
As far as where to buy... There are a million different places you can buy these products. If you decide to go the ebay route, make sure they have a lot of ratings, and make sure they are in USA so it doesn't take a month to get to your door..
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I would probably start with an RDA. I had a heck of a time when I first got into my kayfun, even after doing RDAs for months. They're small and finicky. And yeah, there's no reason you can't pop either onto a regulated mod, provided that the coil build is within the acceptable ohm range of the device.
But especially if you're going to use these things on an unregulated mech mod, you need some more knowledge and equipment. Read up on ohm laws. There's some helpful guides floating around there. So much to learn. And get a multimeter and ohm reader. You will need both. The ohm reader to check the ohms of your coil, and the multimeter to test your batteries (I also use it as a backup to my ohm reader if I'm ever suspect about the reading). Checking your batteries will be important, as in a mech mod there is nothing stopping you from draining the battery to unsafe levels, or to stop you from using a dangerously overcharged battery (smart chargers aren't a guarantee; always test your batteries). Also, if you're going to be diving quite low into the subohms you'll need to check your battery periodically. Being safe at a certain ohm build at a 4.2 full charge is great, but what happens when your battery power drops to 3.9? Still safe? Do you know? Look into it. Check it out, and test your battery power.
But especially if you're going to use these things on an unregulated mech mod, you need some more knowledge and equipment. Read up on ohm laws. There's some helpful guides floating around there. So much to learn. And get a multimeter and ohm reader. You will need both. The ohm reader to check the ohms of your coil, and the multimeter to test your batteries (I also use it as a backup to my ohm reader if I'm ever suspect about the reading). Checking your batteries will be important, as in a mech mod there is nothing stopping you from draining the battery to unsafe levels, or to stop you from using a dangerously overcharged battery (smart chargers aren't a guarantee; always test your batteries). Also, if you're going to be diving quite low into the subohms you'll need to check your battery periodically. Being safe at a certain ohm build at a 4.2 full charge is great, but what happens when your battery power drops to 3.9? Still safe? Do you know? Look into it. Check it out, and test your battery power.
Thanks alot. I really didnt want to go to ebay because of that reason and don't know if its going to be as advertised. I get told kayfun alot and I also get told plume veil. but?? thanks again
Thanks alot. That is exactly why I wanted to stay with the mvp so I don't have to worry about the batteries and the safety issue as much, but I will do some research on that just so I will know the basics. Yeah I plan on getting a reader before I get an RDA. That's what I hear alot about the kayfun that they are small and finicky. Know a reputable place to buy one. I hear 101vapes is good but ?????????
Some RDAs are undoubtably easier to build than many RBAs but I wouldn't say that the Kayfuns are difficult; specially the much improved Lite+ v2 (or the Russian 91% v2). I made a video about a simple and easy build on a Kayfun Lite. My English accent is very thick (I'm Mexican) but the procedure is understandable.
I started rebuilding Kanger Aerotanks and then stepped up to Kayfuns 3.1 so I don't find them at all complicated. YMMV. Of course a good RDA like the Helios or the Infinite CLT are super easy to build on, however they are really intended for dual coils and preferably sub-ohm builds. The Kayfuns OTOH really shine at 1.5Ω and the flavor is tops at that spot. That would be my suggestion.
The trick with the Kayfun Lite and the Russian is the wick: too much and you get dry hits; too little and it floods. Personally, I like the Infinite Magma clone for a newbie. It's got a simple 2-post deck, deep well, adjustable air flow. Here's a link to the one I got at Vivid Smoke:
http://http://www.vividsmoke.com/accessories/rba-rda/magma-rda-clone.html
As a newbie, I'd definitely invest in a Coiler. It makes wrapping coils so much easier.
http://http://www.vividsmoke.com/accessories/rba-rda/magma-rda-clone.html
As a newbie, I'd definitely invest in a Coiler. It makes wrapping coils so much easier.
I suggest start with rda. Plume is a great place to start I think. Has single coil option and 4 posts for easier dual coil builds, all around great performer. With an rda it's easier to check and fix your builds. Once you get that down, jump up to a Kayfun if you prefer tanks. Eciggity sells a light plus 2 with the airflow drilled out. Kayfun is definitely top RTA for most.
Check steam-engine.org for how many wraps around what diameter to get the desired resistance.
28ga kanthal is good for most builds.
Japanese cotton is a lot easier to work with than cotton balls.
Personally I like being able to wrap around drill bits instead of needing a coiling jig. I'd say do that, a jig seems like more hassle than its worth imo. Unless of course you have dexterity issues, in which case I'd say stay away from rba!
Check steam-engine.org for how many wraps around what diameter to get the desired resistance.
28ga kanthal is good for most builds.
Japanese cotton is a lot easier to work with than cotton balls.
Personally I like being able to wrap around drill bits instead of needing a coiling jig. I'd say do that, a jig seems like more hassle than its worth imo. Unless of course you have dexterity issues, in which case I'd say stay away from rba!
IMO you don't need a multimeter AND an ohms meter for coils. Save yourself some money and just get a decent multimeter, it will check batteries and check the resistance of your coils. If money is not a problem then get both.
Get a magma RDA.
Easier to set up than most and nigh unbeatable for flavor. Also holds way more liquid than most other drippers.
Easier to set up than most and nigh unbeatable for flavor. Also holds way more liquid than most other drippers.
I totally agree with the above. I run my Magma in single coil mode, usually at 1.4 to 1.6 ohms. . The ohm reader on the MVP is accurate enough for coils in that range to get you started. The MVP resistance reading is always within a tenth of an ohm of my other devices and my Fluke DMM. If and when you get deeper into re-buildables, you'll want a multimeter for checking batteries and trouble-shooting connections. If you ever want to do sub-ohm builds, that's when you'll need a good stand-alone ohm meter.
I' tried a 1.3 ohm builds on my MVP just now and it did fire the coil.
I run Kayfuns on my MVP and usually aim for a 1.6 ohm build. I recommend the Kayfun for a tank, I find it easy enough to build, but think you're better off starting with a dripper until you get the hang of making coils and wicking.
I got my Magma from Fasttech . But the all stainless one is out of stock right now "ships in 7 business days" https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10008103/1718100 so figure 3 weeks or so to get it. The brass and copper trimmed ones are in stock https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10008103/1785901 or https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10008103/1785900, so those might be 2 weeks for shipping. According to posts on the FT forum, the version I linked to is the same as the one sold by Infinity.
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Your mvp has a built in ohm meter. They fire down to 1.2 ohms. Some folks can go as low as 0.8 ohms. It will work great for any single coil. I started with a kayfun light clone (or was it a russian clone?, or a 3.1 clone? which came first?) Not really that hard to build on. For a beginning dripper I recommend the igo-l. Small, cheap, simple and cheap. In the future you can always use it to test flavors; it won't go to waste.
Thanks. I am actually waiting for this to come in the mail. The same site that you recommende. I heard from alot of people that infinite makes really good clones.
thanks alot. I went with a Infinite magma. but I keep hearing alot about the plume if everything goes well with the magma I will probably purchase a plume. WOW!! thanks for the coil build website that helps alot. All I have to do now is get a some organic cotton and I will be good to go.
Thanks. I got the Magma clone by infinite. These must be really good RDA I get told to get a magma by alot of people.
I'm telling you from experiance.. the japanese cotton (JC) pads are MUCH easier to work with.. they also wick a bit better and dont have nearly the "taste break in" period (I noticed the first 20 vapes or so taste a little off with organic cotton balls - boiling can help, but I still notice it). The JC I got does have a slight odd taste on breakin, but its gone in the first 1-3 vapes and isn't nearly as potent. like night and day difference... all IMO of course. Worth looking into at least.
Don't buy an mvp, they have a hard time running dual coils, if you want a cheap, good vv but a vamo if you want a cheap Mech go with a stingray Clone if you want the best Mech get a BCV surfrider or XXIX, the XXIX is better by a tiny bit but requires more cleaning BC it's copper. And only by Sony vtc batteries and you'll be fine.
I agree on that one,they dont have enough wattage to really push the duals,being they max out at 11 watts,it's just not really a good vape that way.I tried my mvp with a dual coil setup at .09 ohms when i first got it,yes it worked,but was it good no.Not sure on single coil rda's,but the kayfun at 1.2-1.8 ohms works pretty good on the mvp.
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