Ah but the email I received has what you originally wrote! I may just have to keep it as blackmail material!
BTW, your original assumption IS correct!
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Ah but the email I received has what you originally wrote! I may just have to keep it as blackmail material!
BTW, your original assumption IS correct!
Keep checking this Forum/thread for release info , I will be informing people about the Beta testing as well .
I'd go with the ones that sound desperate..like they would do anything for a freebie.
Wait...that's just about everyone that posted. Forget that plan.
Kudos for comeing up with the " BUZZ "
im very impressed!
How long have you been makeing mods?
im very impressed!
How long have you been makeing mods?
Great to know. Just put my email address in to the website for info tidbits as well. I'd flip my lid if I got to beta test one! Hell i'll write an essay! Wait, i'm not in school and i'm offering to write essays? Must be good! I'm going to be on this like white on rice.
Good idea Jd...I put my email on the mailing list as well. This thing looks Awesome.
Can i test it..please ? lol....Ok...i wont be hurt if not, promise...i can wait for it to be released...( im telling myself this everytime i look at this ).
Can i test it..please ? lol....Ok...i wont be hurt if not, promise...i can wait for it to be released...( im telling myself this everytime i look at this ).
My thought train: put email address in so even if im out and about the email alert goes right to the blackberry and I can know to run to a computer and order it haha. ya, like im not gonna have a giant red circle around that day (once its announced) anyway. I was beginning to feel sad because the Juice box is coming tomorrow and I cant imagine not waiting for something. Listening to Tom Petty, "The Waiting is the Hardest Part" again for mental support hahaha
We very happy that there is so much positive interest in these devices ! , we looked pretty hard at everything out there and made a list of everything that people were asking for and this is the result of that investigation.
We are being hit hard by Beta testing offers THANK YOU ALL ! , unfortunately there will only be so many that we can accommodate .
I am screaming at my machine shop to get me parts ASAP , I have the electronics in house and tested for the last 2 weeks , they work very good .
Just a point:: these are NOT designed for Low ohm attys , they work in the 2.0 ohm and above range . The current draw is too high , by increasing the voltage in a controlled way we can FINE TUNE the power to the atty and hence the VAPE as well. no need for a modified atty ! ( you can still blow a regular atty on these devices BUT the regulated voltage will lower the chances .
1. there is No voltage spike to the atty , 2. control over the voltage reaching the atty
Keep your eye open , they are coming as soon as possible
We are being hit hard by Beta testing offers THANK YOU ALL ! , unfortunately there will only be so many that we can accommodate .
I am screaming at my machine shop to get me parts ASAP , I have the electronics in house and tested for the last 2 weeks , they work very good .
Just a point:: these are NOT designed for Low ohm attys , they work in the 2.0 ohm and above range . The current draw is too high , by increasing the voltage in a controlled way we can FINE TUNE the power to the atty and hence the VAPE as well. no need for a modified atty ! ( you can still blow a regular atty on these devices BUT the regulated voltage will lower the chances .
1. there is No voltage spike to the atty , 2. control over the voltage reaching the atty
Keep your eye open , they are coming as soon as possible
Cruising the website and I didnt see this pic on the forum so here it is. Gives you a better idea of what we are looking at
Jd I need to update that drawing , a few things have changed.
1. On/off switch is near the top
2. the charger port in near the top next to the on/off sw.
on the side facing you
Thats it !
1. On/off switch is near the top
2. the charger port in near the top next to the on/off sw.
on the side facing you
Thats it !
One of the best ideas i have seen thus far
when this hits the market ppl are gonna be all over these very impressive designs i cannot wait!
when this hits the market ppl are gonna be all over these very impressive designs i cannot wait!
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Any chance the feed knob could be recessable? You know, where you push it and it springs out, adjust, then push back in (a lot of car stereos had these type of knobs). I ask because I see the potential for the knob being accidentally turned while "in pocket". Depending upon the type of feed system (screw syringe?) if there's a fear of liquid leaking during transport maybe the hose is crimped/clamped when the button is in?
Just my $.01
Just my $.01
Mike good idea !! , I have already changed the design after messing around with several ideas I found a very simple design that you push down on the handle , it takes some force to push it ( not bad but not easy either )
One push applies 2 drops to the atty so flooding it should not be a problem ?? Ya I know it will be !!
I will look into that idea , nice thinking !
The VVPV has very limited space to work in ( we have to keep the size correct , to big and it will not be user friendly )
Again thanks for the feedback and ideas , the idea for this design came directly from guys and gals like YOU !
BTW I just did an all day vape test on the 2 x 14500 3.7v 900mah batteries , these were not even topped off with a charge straight from the factory , they lasted 8 hours + with HEAVY vaping ( I'm feeling it trust me ! Woo ) using a new 302 heavy flow atty from Chad @ Ecigsupply.com , I set it to 4.75 volts ( the " SWEET SPOT" for me with this atty )
The thing about controlling the voltage is you can DIAL IN the SWEET SPOT really easily , no more screwing around with resistance / atty's / burning juice etc.
One push applies 2 drops to the atty so flooding it should not be a problem ?? Ya I know it will be !!
I will look into that idea , nice thinking !
The VVPV has very limited space to work in ( we have to keep the size correct , to big and it will not be user friendly )
Again thanks for the feedback and ideas , the idea for this design came directly from guys and gals like YOU !
BTW I just did an all day vape test on the 2 x 14500 3.7v 900mah batteries , these were not even topped off with a charge straight from the factory , they lasted 8 hours + with HEAVY vaping ( I'm feeling it trust me ! Woo ) using a new 302 heavy flow atty from Chad @ Ecigsupply.com , I set it to 4.75 volts ( the " SWEET SPOT" for me with this atty )
The thing about controlling the voltage is you can DIAL IN the SWEET SPOT really easily , no more screwing around with resistance / atty's / burning juice etc.
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Just a thought on the adjustment process. Finding the perfect voltage for a given atty sounds great, but what about when you change attys? I go back and forth between dripping on 901s at home and cartomizers for the outside world. I don't relish the thought of fiddling with a set screw for ten minutes to get the perfect voltage every time I switch.
So how about this for an accessory: a simple PV voltmeter. You can get mini panel-mount meters for dirt cheap. Stick that in a project box with a 9v battery and 5v regulator. On the outside, have a short cable with an atty connector. Once you find the "sweet spot" for your attys, you can plug in the meter and remember the reading. Then, any time you want to switch it up, you can plug the meter in again and dial in the proper voltage in seconds.
So how about this for an accessory: a simple PV voltmeter. You can get mini panel-mount meters for dirt cheap. Stick that in a project box with a 9v battery and 5v regulator. On the outside, have a short cable with an atty connector. Once you find the "sweet spot" for your attys, you can plug in the meter and remember the reading. Then, any time you want to switch it up, you can plug the meter in again and dial in the proper voltage in seconds.
Along the voltage adjustment lines.... How about marks/notations to make it easier to adjust the setting and visibly see that it's where you intend it (they could be #'ed or just hash marks). IMHO it'd be even better if it was a simple multi-position slide switch (4 position maybe?) It could be Off/3.7/4.4/5.0/6.0. This would eliminate a seperate master switch and set screw as they'd both be handled by one slide switch?
More thoughts about the juice feed: if a push gets you 2 drops what happens with the juice in the tube? During transport film tension isn't going to keep it from running into the atty. Also, since you're heading in the direction of a preset delivery amount there's really no reason to SEE the liquid delivery. I'd rather have it bottom feed (thus less chance of tube issues and during transport/storage the atty could be removed without having the tube hanging loose). The benefit of bottom feed is also some drainage of overflow. I assume your design is using cart filler (like the UPAC?) which still relies on wicking. There's been some good success lately with mods that use a squeeze bottle bottom feed as the release of the squeeze actually sucks back (some) of any excess.
My personal issue with squeeze bottles is the impercise flow control. That's why I've personally been looking into a bottom feed spray pump. I measured mine and it delivers 2 drops per pump and thus the suck-back isn't really an issue (and is hard to do with a pump type delivery). I like the knob delivery idea as it solves the consistent delivery issue!
Oh, one other thing I'd love to see on it... A plexi window for visible feedback on bottle contents. How do I know how full/empty the bottle is before I leave the house? Do I have to open it up? A nice 1/4" wide x 1" tall (with rounded ends!) plexi view-thru panel would be sweet!
Oh one more thing (since I'm being so damn wordy...) In the 3D drawing it shows the whistle tip rotated 90* from how I'd want it. Not a huge deal but with the tube connection it's not really user rotatable. Also, I'd suggest the starter kit include both whistle and round tips (as some prefer one over the other). Heck, it'd be nice if you got 2 of each so that the end user wouldn't have to drill their own.
Just more of my $.01
More thoughts about the juice feed: if a push gets you 2 drops what happens with the juice in the tube? During transport film tension isn't going to keep it from running into the atty. Also, since you're heading in the direction of a preset delivery amount there's really no reason to SEE the liquid delivery. I'd rather have it bottom feed (thus less chance of tube issues and during transport/storage the atty could be removed without having the tube hanging loose). The benefit of bottom feed is also some drainage of overflow. I assume your design is using cart filler (like the UPAC?) which still relies on wicking. There's been some good success lately with mods that use a squeeze bottle bottom feed as the release of the squeeze actually sucks back (some) of any excess.
My personal issue with squeeze bottles is the impercise flow control. That's why I've personally been looking into a bottom feed spray pump. I measured mine and it delivers 2 drops per pump and thus the suck-back isn't really an issue (and is hard to do with a pump type delivery). I like the knob delivery idea as it solves the consistent delivery issue!
Oh, one other thing I'd love to see on it... A plexi window for visible feedback on bottle contents. How do I know how full/empty the bottle is before I leave the house? Do I have to open it up? A nice 1/4" wide x 1" tall (with rounded ends!) plexi view-thru panel would be sweet!
Oh one more thing (since I'm being so damn wordy...) In the 3D drawing it shows the whistle tip rotated 90* from how I'd want it. Not a huge deal but with the tube connection it's not really user rotatable. Also, I'd suggest the starter kit include both whistle and round tips (as some prefer one over the other). Heck, it'd be nice if you got 2 of each so that the end user wouldn't have to drill their own.
Just more of my $.01
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OK so lets start , I planned on selling a voltmeter ( low cost ) with a atty adaptor for voltage setting , This uses a 12 turn pot. the resolution is pretty good , once you have an idea where your settings are it should be fairly easy to get close by counting turns. We will see how this works out , there will be a learning curve but hopefully it will be short ??
I plan on supplying 1 tip , I did not think of the orientation so another good point Mike ! , put it on the list ! , it uses a standard tip so they are CHEAPO !! throw away parts .
Man I'm getting inquiries from RUSSIA ? WOW !
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Bottom feed devises are 2009. We learned from them and moved on. There disgusting. Ask someone with a juicebox what their liquid looks like after they vaped 1/2 of a 10ml bottle. yuck.
That's ONE mod and it uses a custom built atty (which I have no personal experience with). And 2009? The tube into cart thing has been around just as long. The original mAhmba (July 2009) and the $1 Juice Pump Mod/UPAC (May 2009). Carlos' first Getto Mod was what, April 2009? Those are just some off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more I'm not thinking of...
BTW, the "gunk" I assume you're saying is in the bottle - where does it go when feed some other way? I don't see how the feed location would make a difference? It either goes down or up, either way you're potentially consuming it!
After re-reading my post I realize it might come across as argumentative! That's not my intention! Just saying the feed locations are equally old (roughly) and trying to find out what the "gunk" is and why it would only pertain to bottom feeds.
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