Nicotine/ Codatine Test & E-Cig Testing

[LaYz_1]

I quit Smoking 7 months ago until my wife decided last week that she would like to get a pack of cigarrettes and have some drinks. I thought it was an awesome idea. Monday came and it was a great weekend, still had cigarretes left, so I smoked a few on the way in to work. Later that Afternoon My wife sends me a message telling me a position came available at a hospital, one of which I had been waiting for a year to come open. My issue here is that, the Hospital takes a Nicotine test?

I recently bought her an E-cig, which I immediately had one ordered for myself as well. The Juices we have are 18mg's of Nicotine. I'm hoping someone smarter than myself can help me break these tests down and help me understand them better.

How long does Nicotine stay in your System, Blood, Urine, Hair and Tests

^^^That site explains about the Nicotine/Codatine tests.

Urine Test:
In this test, a urine sample is collected, in which a strip is dipped for 5 minutes. The result is then read as either positive or negative. The accepted standard cutoff level of 200ng/ml of nicotine is the test’s basis.

Saliva Test:
It can detect levels 0 to 2,000ng/ml of nicotine, a range lower than that can be determined by the urine test


My Main question is, with the information provided above... will it harm my results?

 

[stevegmu]

You didn't post the duration between when you last smoked or vaped and the test, or even what type of test they use, so no idea.

 

[Hoosier]

1 to 10 days from your last intake of any form of nicotine.

Mostly depends on your metabolism and health of you liver plus how long you've been consuming nicotine.

 

[Danielle Carter]

They nicotine test?? I work in Health Care myself and while I am subjected to drug tests nicotine isn't included in the panel that is nuts

 

[Hoosier]

Nicotine tests are becoming more common in the healthcare industry. Usually starts out as a means to refuse employment to new hires then typically goes to existing employees.

The process and acceptance was well established with drug screening. They just added another substance to the test, nicotine, in this case. (The test is for Codatine which indicates the presence of nicotine.)

It's not everywhere....yet...

 

[jpwr25]

What I can tell you is this: My employer (also a hospital) uses a nicotine test as well to determine if existing insurance beneficiaries need a "health coach" to keep premiums down. My wife and I (both vapers, both using 18mg juice) had cotinine levels similar to that of a smoker. Our hospital uses a blood test for cotinine (nicotine metabolites).

 

[Recon Number 54]

They nicotine test?? I work in Health Care myself and while I am subjected to drug tests nicotine isn't included in the panel that is nuts

E-cigarette smokers need not apply at Baylor Health Care System - Dallas Business Journal

Baylor Healthcare is just one workplace that pre-employment tests for nicotine and makes the assumption that a positive result indicates tobacco usage.

You would "think" that healthcare providers would separate the two (tobacco use -vs- nicotine presence) but for them and many other employers, the two are the same.

Many municipalities and companies are resorting to nicotine testing to see if a potential hire is a non-smoker. I suspect that it will take a descrimination lawsuit or two for them to consider altering their process. They are taking these steps in order to reduce their health-insurance costs and not hire folks who they consider to be "high potential cost", but a positive nicotine level is not conclusive or an accurate indicator of tobacco usage.

I wonder if the EEOC would take up the issue?

 

[LaYz_1]

It was a week apart from each other. The Day I finished the pack of cigarettes, I started Vaping!

 

[Hoosier]

Unfortunately the test could care less if the nicotine comes from patches, gums, inhalers, cigars, cigarettes, snuff, chewing tobacco, snus, or juice. It just tests for the markers indicating nicotine has been in the body.

It helps move the anti-smoking crusade to anti-nicotine too, so I often wonder if fat or sugar will be next?

 

[Chas F.]

Grrr, starts with drugs/alcohol then nicotine (same classification as caffeine) and some day obesity/general health indicators. I wonder when they'll start DNA testing to see who is susceptible to what. I'm diabetic so I'm hosed.

 

[edyle]

E-cigarette smokers need not apply at Baylor Health Care System - Dallas Business Journal

Baylor Healthcare is just one workplace that pre-employment tests for nicotine and makes the assumption that a positive result indicates tobacco usage.

You would "think" that healthcare providers would separate the two (tobacco use -vs- nicotine presence) but for them and many other employers, the two are the same.

Many municipalities and companies are resorting to nicotine testing to see if a potential hire is a non-smoker. I suspect that it will take a descrimination lawsuit or two for them to consider altering their process. They are taking these steps in order to reduce their health-insurance costs and not hire folks who they consider to be "high potential cost", but a positive nicotine level is not conclusive or an accurate indicator of tobacco usage.

I wonder if the EEOC would take up the issue?

It means that people who have stopped smoking and are using patches or gum are also going to get discriminated against.

 

[Doughboy67]

My work is implementing something similar for their healthcare. The test for five different things now. If you fail 3 out of 5 your premiums will go up on extra $2500 a year. The 5 things are:

1. Nicotine
2. Cholesterol
3. Blood sugar
4. BMI
5. Blood pressure

Good thing Obamacare fixed the out of control health care costs. I find it odd that they don't test for illegal drugs. We had a manager get arrested last year for selling ..... I find it hard to believe that these five things are the biggest concerns for healthcare and they don't test for illegal drugs.

 

[patkin]

It would be a better idea to just charge everyone high premiums and give a cut rate to any who don't hit 3 out of 5 of those... comparatively wouldn't be as many... cut down on the paper work. Ya know, thinking about this a bit, I'm waiting for some person to file an age-discrimination suit because 3 out of 5 of those hit with age no matter their current life-style. Age-discrimination is illegal in employment. I can see how companies would use something like this to work around it.