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I'm of the opinion that while both this RTS and the WL Ice are great for flavors, they are outright boring unflavored. This past week I ordered 120ml of 100mg reg because I miss that unflavored and I also like it more in some tobacco mixes. Have any of you tried it with the Hangseng flavors?
 

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I'm of the opinion that while both this RTS and the WL Ice are great for flavors, they are outright boring unflavored. This past week I ordered 120ml of 100mg reg because I miss that unflavored and I also like it more in some tobacco mixes. Have any of you tried it with the Hangseng flavors?
I mix all my Hangsen flavors with WL only. With the Ice it takes me back to Dekang when Hangsen worked for them.
 

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OK long overdue!

Wolcen was kind enough to send me some of the 'new' RTS nic, ultimately coming from Judgement

The nic was 100mg PG base

I've mixed it at 18mg, 82% home brewed acqueous VG (8ml DW/72mls of VG)

Over the past few weeks I've run it through my ZAP/Provari with an old and fresh coil, and an IGO L/CVI running on aunt lydias bamboo crochet thread. Both with 30 AWG kanthal A-1, 5 and 10 wraps respectively

ZAP/Provari (1.7ohms/4.5-5.3V)...IGO-L/CVI (~2.2 ohms, 9-15 watts)

I have been able to compare it to MFS mixed to identical specs (also 100mg PG) on the DID and IGO S. Regrettably I have no more WLI to use, or ECX or XTR (the "cleaner nics" ?).

First off, it came crystal clear. No detectable color. This was a huge difference in and of itself vs. my first experience with RTS.

I was able to pick up a 'nicotine' odor upon nosing it, but I usually am. Nothing offensive, I promise. Nothing as intense as MFS. But more prominent than my *memory* of WLI and XTR.

Upon vaping it I thought I had made a mistake or something, because I swear, it totally reminded me of the way VZ nic tastes to me (at least the batch I reviewed back in this thread). It has more bite, nose burn, whatever you want to call it then I'd expect from the "clean" nics. I will say that it is way more 'clean' tasting than MFS for example, and its not so much that wafty or peppery thing that I get from MFS, but a pronounced sharpness that burns the hell out of my nose (which i LIKE!)

Without question though that 'rotting nuts' vibe I got from RTS earlier in the thread is nowhere to be find here. This is great stuff; but its nothing 'better' by any parameter than the usual suspects, so if you don't care for RTS' business practices there's still zero reason to purchase from them.

I really like it! As an unflavored guy, I could do this, just as I sometimes do VZ.

That's all for now. Sorry for the long wait, and the brevity, moving to CA from NY is a PITA!
 
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OK long overdue!

Wolcen was kind enough to send me some of the 'new' RTS nic, ultimately coming from Judgement

The nic was 100mg PG base

I've mixed it at 18mg, 82% home brewed acqueous VG (8ml DW/72mls of VG)

Over the past few weeks I've run it through my ZAP/Provari with an old and fresh coil, and an IGO L/CVI running on aunt lydias bamboo crochet thread. Both with 30 AWG kanthal A-1, 5 and 10 wraps respectively

ZAP/Provari (1.7ohms/4.5-5.3V)...IGO-L/CVI (~2.2 ohms, 9-15 watts)

I have been able to compare it to MFS mixed to identical specs (also 100mg PG) on the DID and IGO S. Regrettably I have no more WLI to use, or ECX or XTR (the "cleaner nics" ?).

First off, it came crystal clear. No detectable color. This was a huge difference in and of itself vs. my first experience with RTS.

I was able to pick up a 'nicotine' odor upon nosing it, but I usually am. Nothing offensive, I promise. Nothing as intense as MFS. But more prominent than my *memory* of WLI and XTR.

Upon vaping it I thought I had made a mistake or something, because I swear, it totally reminded me of the way VZ nic tastes to me (at least the batch I reviewed back in this thread). It has more bite, nose burn, whatever you want to call it then I'd expect from the "clean" nics. I will say that it is way more 'clean' tasting than MFS for example, and its not so much that wafty or peppery thing that I get from MFS, but a pronounced sharpness that burns the hell out of my nose (which i LIKE!)

Without question though that 'rotting nuts' vibe I got from RTS earlier in the thread is nowhere to be find here. This is great stuff; but its nothing 'better' by any parameter than the usual suspects, so if you don't care for RTS' business practices there's still zero reason to purchase from them.

I really like it! As an unflavored guy, I could do this, just as I sometimes do VZ.

That's all for now. Sorry for the long wait, and the brevity, moving to CA from NY is a PITA!

Welcome back Cyrus :toast:
 

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Cyrus, hope the move has gone well and good to see you around. I take it you are done with school, congrats! I am running low on the WLI I got and am hoping they will be making it available soon. I like boring as it really allows the flavors to take center stage (I am not an unflavored guy at all).
 

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Good to see everyone :)

I'll be making the flight to CA next Saturday; I'll probably order some more nic once I get settled there (I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't imagine I would be able to do so at this point a few months ago)

I do want more WLI, just because its so clean, and I love sending Wizard my money :)

Done with school, those silly initials make my already too long name even longer :facepalm:

B2L you reminded me, the AFPV! I have to update my address, can't wait for that thing
 

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No worries tdinello, the VZ I have is fantastic and distinct; its a great middle ground for someone that finds MFS a bit 'too much' and WLI/XTR a little to 'bland' if its anything like what I have its a real jack of all trades! Not sure you would consider WLI a 'huge improvement' but you'll find out when it becomes available again :)

Finished medical school, so its M.D.
 

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I was lucky to have gotten 500 mil (Two 250's) of WL Ice not long ago. Lindsay or John said they may not get it again, forgot why.

It is a very clean nic, lacking a bit in TH but I do like it anyway.

Hope you like NY, Cyrus.

The Hofstra "strip" used to be a great place to bar hop in the late 70's and early 80's.....was the place to be on the Island.
 
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