Nicotine Comparisons

[aikanae1]

Whats the dif between the 2; Platinum and Titanium? thanks

I'm curious to that also. I thought TW was also a supplier of PEG which is used more in Europe than here. I wouldn't mind hearing opinions about PEG too.

I think the CASAA article mentioned, "full time lab" dedicated to producing nic, in this case for pharmaceticals (expensive). I heard DOW was the leading manufacturer - and may have assumed they would be operating the lab. However, it doesn't sound like the type of nic that we would seek out.

I'm not sure there is a single category for RTS - which is not meant as a bad thing - It's possible he's hired freelance labs to do some processing and he also imports. RTS has been around long enough to develop a reputation, percentage accuracy, certificate, shipping, dependable; they are a valid, competitive supplier of nic.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I'm curious to that also. I thought TW was also a supplier of PEG which is used more in Europe than here. I wouldn't mind hearing opinions about PEG too.

If you dig quite deep in ECF, you may find a post by rolygate on PEG...perhaps included with other matters. In time, it's back quite a way. To the best of my recollection, it has a wee bit lower safety (health?) rating than PG / VG. Perhaps that's why we don't see more about it. I may have looked at more than one source to find the preceding information.

I too would like to know more.

 

[aikanae1]

If you dig quite deep in ECF, you may find a post by rolygate on PEG...perhaps included with other matters. In time, it's back quite a way. To the best of my recollection, it has a wee bit lower safety (health?) rating than PG / VG. Perhaps that's why we don't see more about it. I may have looked at more than one source to find the preceding information.

I too would like to know more.

Thx. I noticed a major flavor in Uk uses it (Decadent?) and several ecig look-alike cartridges use it (both UK and US).

 

[wolcen]

Not that I use them (inhalation of something that condenses to a solid is not my thing) but I've also noticed PEG listed in the "e-solid" product's ingredients. The CAS# those specify on the packaging is 25322-68-3.

 

[Shilo]

CASSA is well aware of RTS.
Anyhow, I'm thinking of starting my own nic base extraction lab on the moon. I'm just waiting for the rocket fuel prices to go down

Oh Jimi I'll be your first customer just because I your sarcasm and wit on this forum

 

[Jimi D.]

Oh Jimi I'll be your first customer just because I your sarcasm and wit on this forum

Of course you will be my first Just think!! No worries about Homeland Security in outer space

 

[Mowgli]

Of course you will be my first Just think!! No worries about Homeland Security in outer space

No antz either but shipping and customs will be a biotch!

 

[kristin]

Are they saying there is currently no U.S. extracted nic? I find it hard to believe that CASAA would not be aware of RTS (who I think claims to be one of (if not the) largest nic suppliers in the U.S.), or do they know something we don't?

I guess I'm late to the party on this one, has it been covered elsewhere?

Unfortunately, CASAA could not verify that company's claim. From what information I could find, RTS says it hires a lab in Charlotte, NC to do the actual extraction work and also has a back-up lab in Philadelphia. Although I tried in earnest, I couldn't find any labs in those locations that do nicotine extraction. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that the labs couldn't be verified. I'd be happy to update the article if RTS wants to (privately) disclose the names of the labs they subcontract, so I can verify it.

 

[Exchaner]

I am curious in what medium does pure nicotine come before it is thinned down to 100mg or lower with pg or vg. Unless I am mistaken, "pure" nicotine does not exist by itself. It has to be carried in something.

 

[chaos-7]

I am curious in what medium does pure nicotine come before it is thinned down to 100mg or lower with pg or vg. Unless I am mistaken, "pure" nicotine does not exist by itself. It has to be carried in something.

Pure nicotine does in fact exist in a liquid form.

 

[TTK]

Unfortunately, CASAA could not verify that company's claim. From what information I could find, RTS says it hires a lab in Charlotte, NC to do the actual extraction work and also has a back-up lab in Philadelphia. Although I tried in earnest, I couldn't find any labs in those locations that do nicotine extraction. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that the labs couldn't be verified. I'd be happy to update the article if RTS wants to (privately) disclose the names of the labs they subcontract, so I can verify it.

I know RTS used to have a claim of US extracted NIC from North Carolina tobacco under the category of Liquid Nicotine, but it no longer seems to be there. On the web site I can find no claim of US extracted nicotine. Perhaps they have changed?

 

[TTK]

Whats the dif between the 2; Platinum and Titanium? thanks

The only difference between the two is nic level. Platinum is 54 mg/ml; Titanium is 72 mg/ml. There is some law in the UK about nic levels above 72 that come into play here.

 

[casey8579]

Unfortunately, CASAA could not verify that company's claim. From what information I could find, RTS says it hires a lab in Charlotte, NC to do the actual extraction work and also has a back-up lab in Philadelphia. Although I tried in earnest, I couldn't find any labs in those locations that do nicotine extraction. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that the labs couldn't be verified. I'd be happy to update the article if RTS wants to (privately) disclose the names of the labs they subcontract, so I can verify it.

Hi kristin, thank you for the reply. Should you ever verify the claim please post about it.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Possibility 1: RTS claim is marketing nonsense; the first nic I tried from them was ...well. The second was top notch. No need to patronize that raucous wannker when there's equivalent product and price elsewhere.

Possibility 2: RTS claim is the truth; the first nic I tried from them was ...well. The second was top notch. No need to patronize that raucous wannker when there's equivalent product and price elsewhere.

Finding the invariate in any object or scenario is tantamount to finding said object or scenario's essence.

Kristin its great to see you in here, thank you. My guess is RTS will tell you they need to keep it top secret and therefore can't give you enough information for a true verification. Let's say they do give you that information...the shills that confuse their drug of choice with politics can keep on shilling. Which is what they'll do anyway.

 

[r77r7r]

Shilo! Come calm the horsey again.

 

[Shilo]

Shilo! Come calm the horsey again.

I kinda like horsey aka Cyrus riled up and the way he is---straightforward---sorry

 

[TTK]

Possibility 1: RTS claim is marketing nonsense; the first nic I tried from them was ...well. The second was top notch. No need to patronize that raucous wannker when there's equivalent product and price elsewhere.

Possibility 2: RTS claim is the truth; the first nic I tried from them was ...well. The second was top notch. No need to patronize that raucous wannker when there's equivalent product and price elsewhere.

Finding the invariate in any object or scenario is tantamount to finding said object or scenario's essence.

Kristin its great to see you in here, thank you. My guess is RTS will tell you they need to keep it top secret and therefore can't give you enough information for a true verification. Let's say they do give you that information...the shills that confuse their drug of choice with politics can keep on shilling. Which is what they'll do anyway.

Exactly what is the current RTS claim, regardless of the possibilities? Can you find any claim on their web site?

 

[casey8579]

Exactly what is the current RTS claim, regardless of the possibilities? Can you find any claim on their web site?

The only thing I see on the site now is the sentence "USA Extracted Liquid Nicotine" at the top of Liquid Nicotine listings. Seems like there used to be a bigger speil about it on the site but I no longer see it.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I kinda like horsey aka Cyrus riled up and the way he is---straightforward---sorry

But it's more fun when you try to throw a saddle on me isn't it ?

 

[aikanae1]

The only thing I see on the site now is the sentence "USA Extracted Liquid Nicotine" at the top of Liquid Nicotine listings. Seems like there used to be a bigger speil about it on the site but I no longer see it.

I believe there's more said on the RTS thread in ECF since a number of people confronted him on that claim in the beginning. It's still vague. I think it's uncomfortable because he doesn't have to be so vague.