Nicotine Comparisons
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Maybe the original peppery variant I'm in search for can be offered with a premium price. Since maybe the quantities are lower, or supply & demand. I wish the different types could be categorized/ standardized and labeled as such from the extractors and distributors so we actuall knew what we were getting for sure.
Wow. What a thread! First off, I want to thank you guys for doing all of this leg work and keeping the rest of us extremely well informed. My brain began to swell up in my skull after I got to about page 27. I'm numb, and confused. From what I have read so far, it seems as though every one of you has gotten some "bad" nic from every vendor at least once.
My number one goal for today was to order some nic solution, flavorings, and mixing equipment. I have 2 gallons each PG/VG sitting here all ready to go. Naturally, ECF was the obvious first stop. I assumed that I would log in, locate a thread about nic bases, find a concensus as to which vendor had the best quality, price, and consistency, and then buy some. WRONG! LOL... I currently have nic bases in shopping carts on 4 different vendor sites (WL, MFS, Nude Nic, and nicvape). At this point, I am afraid to hit the "Check out" button on ANY of them.
HELP! What's a newbie to do? I don't need skunky nic messing up my first attempts to DIY... Apologies for wasting the experts' time with dumb newbie questions.
And is this the correct WL?
Sleepless on the Chesapeake
My number one goal for today was to order some nic solution, flavorings, and mixing equipment. I have 2 gallons each PG/VG sitting here all ready to go. Naturally, ECF was the obvious first stop. I assumed that I would log in, locate a thread about nic bases, find a concensus as to which vendor had the best quality, price, and consistency, and then buy some. WRONG! LOL... I currently have nic bases in shopping carts on 4 different vendor sites (WL, MFS, Nude Nic, and nicvape). At this point, I am afraid to hit the "Check out" button on ANY of them.
HELP! What's a newbie to do? I don't need skunky nic messing up my first attempts to DIY... Apologies for wasting the experts' time with dumb newbie questions.
And is this the correct WL?
Sleepless on the Chesapeake
Order a small amount from each and judge for yourself. Return the ones you don't like.
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Yes MD_Boater, that is the correct WL - So far I have had great luck with them - I have some more on the way that I expect to receive next week.
Cheers,
Steve
PS I just checked the tracking number and it says expected delivery is on Monday
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Just curious to see if anyone else besides Cyrus has noticed the same burnt rubbery taste/smell on the new MFS Nic.
Just finished bottling it up for freezer storage in eight 60ml amber glass bottles). It's very clear with hardly any smell, maybe a very slight earthy aroma but I didn't shove my face in there
. I also had some left out of the last batch and I can tell no difference whatsoever between the batches. I'm in the process of mixing a 120 ml bottle of RY4D (might finally last long enough to steep )up with some of the new Nic. I will update this if I taste anything off about the mix. I don't anticipate that though because it has the exact same (or lack of) aroma as my last batch and is very clear. 
Cheers,
Steve
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Just checked WL and they're all stocked up! Wonder if they're finally all caught up? Can't wait until they offer PG/VG mixes again.
Just finished bottling it up for freezer storage in eight 60ml amber glass bottles). It's very clear with hardly any smell, maybe a very slight earthy aroma but I didn't shove my face in there
Cheers,
Steve
Steve....I just ordered my first ever bottle of 100mg/500ml of nic today and was wondering what 60ml bottles you use to freeze your extra?
Sorry, I just saw your question, got caught up mixing and watching football. I used these:
60ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap
Cheers,
Steve
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Bringing this forward, because…well for one Kurt is always right…
But also...Unflavored nicotine liquid
I know I'm busy, I work a lot and all, and my memory at 33 going on 34 is become quite porous and goofy, but this is news correct? Meaning, NicVape announcing flat out that they're using Alchem nicotine?
I'm really curious now if NicVape is going to soon report the same issue that MFS is having, e.g. Alchem has switched to whole leaf/plant extraction vs. stems and dust extraction resulting in a darker more odorous nicotine with a 'novel' smell due to residual aroma from plant oils, etc?
I'm going to be making some calls tomorrow
Kurt if you don't show up soon I may appear in your inbox
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And this. Anyone remember rocket man? Miss that guy
Anyway at the time of this post I believe a red seal was visible on various nicotine COAs on the interwebz…it looked like this
http://www.boxelderchemicalsupply.com/coa.pdf
EDIT: Was performed because like I said my memory is going lol
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Bringing this forward, because…well for one Kurt is always right…
Unflavored nicotine liquid
I know I'm busy, I work a lot and all, and my memory at 33 going on 34 is become quite porous and goofy, but this is news correct? Meaning, NicVape announcing flat out that they're using Alchem nicotine?
I'm really curious now if NicVape is going to soon report the same issue that MFS is having, e.g. Alchem has switched to whole leaf/plant extraction vs. stems and dust extraction resulting in a darker more odorous nicotine with a 'novel' smell due to residual aroma from plant oils, etc?
I'm going to be making some calls tomorrow
Kurt if you don't show up soon I may appear in your inbox
That nic actually intrigues me. Where can I buy this dark odorous nic derived from the leaves?
Hey Cyrus, I found my batch from the first new process mfs nic to be completely clear odorless. I want the nic your describing. Are you a peppery nic fan these days or do you favor the clean nic's?
That certainly seems to be the case. They are listed on Alchem's site as a distributor, along with MFS.
And this. Anyone remember rocket man? Miss that guy
Yes I do,
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ech-650mah-battery-had-serious-failure-2.html
aheadatime, jeremyR
Just to clarify what I have
Old MFS, at least 2012, maybe older I can't remember: Rich 'flavor,' explosive throat hit, tons of pepper, reminds me of swedish snus if I mentally subtract out the flavorings in the snus
MFS from 10/13, apparently the first batch of a whole plant extraction, came darker than new nic is in my experience, with an awful smell that is NOT like the older nic that I like, its more like burnt rubber and I'm in the first to describe it that way. This smell was attributed to aroma from oils and what not by TaylorMade I believe
The 'true' nicotine flavor is actually lacking here for me, as is the pepper and throat hit, thumbs down
MFS from shortly thereafter, my replacement nicotine. Just like number two from 10/13, but much more mild on the burnt rubber taste, though its still there and quite annoying if you use unflavored juice for vaping like I do. Weak pepper, throat hit, etc. Still not heard back from TaylorMade regarding this batch, as to be honest I'm still not happy.
Jeremy I'm assuming my replacement batch was the same stuff that you have, it must be right?
Just to clarify what I have
Old MFS, at least 2012, maybe older I can't remember: Rich 'flavor,' explosive throat hit, tons of pepper, reminds me of swedish snus if I mentally subtract out the flavorings in the snus
MFS from 10/13, apparently the first batch of a whole plant extraction, came darker than new nic is in my experience, with an awful smell that is NOT like the older nic that I like, its more like burnt rubber and I'm in the first to describe it that way. This smell was attributed to aroma from oils and what not by TaylorMade I believe
The 'true' nicotine flavor is actually lacking here for me, as is the pepper and throat hit, thumbs down
MFS from shortly thereafter, my replacement nicotine. Just like number two from 10/13, but much more mild on the burnt rubber taste, though its still there and quite annoying if you use unflavored juice for vaping like I do. Weak pepper, throat hit, etc. Still not heard back from TaylorMade regarding this batch, as to be honest I'm still not happy.
Jeremy I'm assuming my replacement batch was the same stuff that you have, it must be right?
You guys certainly know more about Nic than I. My last nic order from MFS is dated Dec 4 2013. My nic is clear, has no odor, nor the rubbery taste other's are experiencing and came in a glass bottle that I requested.
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