Plus, it's samples of the end product.
and even though not shown, you can bet it was tested for DEG
(after all the FDA hassles they went through)
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Plus, it's samples of the end product.
and even though not shown, you can bet it was tested for DEG
(after all the FDA hassles they went through)
Yep - Lorrilard = Blu << supplies JC juice.
Definitely worth continuing to keep an eye on what that group is up to.
Definitely worth continuing to keep an eye on what that group is up to.
Lot of info embedded in the document header
Date/time codes. software serial number, type of document source.
I certainly think so.
I'd pay an extra $5/10 (but no more!) too.
Also, it seems Boxed Elders' present solution for the various mixes/levels is to offer just two: 100mg PG and 100mg VG. At their entry price point ($100), they're back off the table for me anyway.
I don't think the "Propylene Glycol USP Kosher Chemical Analysis" posted by RTS is a COA. At the top of the sheet it says "Sales Specification". It doesn't look to me that it contains any analysis data.
A company like DOW probably has their process under tight control. Running periodic in process checks they can set a set of parameters and meet or exceed what they advertise. 100,000 pounds, and a couple tests are a drop in the bucket.
One neat trick with aging PG is to "re-certify" it.
Yup, still good, sell some more
One neat trick with aging PG is to "re-certify" it.
Yup, still good, sell some more
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Too bad it still tastes like my geriatric maltese's breath smells lol
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One thing to watch for in a COA for Glycerin is a specific test for DEG.
I think the requirement has been placed in the USP monograph.
Here are a few I found on the web that have both the specification and the test results, including a quantification for DEG.
I'm not implying any of these are any good.
"GLYCERINE VEGETABLE NATURAL SOURCE - PALM DERIVED - Certificate of Analysis Sheet ( COAS ) "
http://www.kicgroup.com/qdocs/29615coa.pdf
http://glycerinbulk.com/static/coa-glycerine.pdf
Has anyone heard about
Vi-Jon, Inc in St. Louis, Mo.?
They sell Glycerin. any comments?
Looks like Vi-Jon and Cumberland Swan Holdings joined when they got a bail out
from Berkshire Partners, one of those 'Private Equity' firms.
Swan Glycerin is a trade mark of Vi-Jon. It is manufactured, or refined, or maybe just stored and bottled at either the St. Louis, Mo. or Smyrna, Tn plant.
You can find it in some stores like Target, CVS, Walmart, and maybe some e-juice vendors.
They have an MSDS posted on line, but I could not find a COA or reference to a Kosher certification. It is good stuff because they also make chemical formulations for other major consumer product companies.
This isn't really all that 'Off-Topic' as PG and VG are in our Nic bases.
I think the requirement has been placed in the USP monograph.
Here are a few I found on the web that have both the specification and the test results, including a quantification for DEG.
I'm not implying any of these are any good.
"GLYCERINE VEGETABLE NATURAL SOURCE - PALM DERIVED - Certificate of Analysis Sheet ( COAS ) "
http://www.kicgroup.com/qdocs/29615coa.pdf
http://glycerinbulk.com/static/coa-glycerine.pdf
Has anyone heard about
Vi-Jon, Inc in St. Louis, Mo.?
They sell Glycerin. any comments?
Looks like Vi-Jon and Cumberland Swan Holdings joined when they got a bail out
from Berkshire Partners, one of those 'Private Equity' firms.
Swan Glycerin is a trade mark of Vi-Jon. It is manufactured, or refined, or maybe just stored and bottled at either the St. Louis, Mo. or Smyrna, Tn plant.
You can find it in some stores like Target, CVS, Walmart, and maybe some e-juice vendors.
They have an MSDS posted on line, but I could not find a COA or reference to a Kosher certification. It is good stuff because they also make chemical formulations for other major consumer product companies.
This isn't really all that 'Off-Topic' as PG and VG are in our Nic bases.
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Question. It has come to my attention that I have some nic from MFS that's about a year old. It has been refrigerated since I got it(Not in the freezer). Should this still be good?
Haven't had any of those sorry to say
off topic?
Compared to most threads we sound like single minded drones
I'm in the market for a new jug of VG I've been wanting to try proctor and gamble. Only source I'm aware of is ECX. Any other suggestions?
off topic?
Compared to most threads we sound like single minded drones I'm in the market for a new jug of VG I've been wanting to try proctor and gamble. Only source I'm aware of is ECX. Any other suggestions?
Fran I'm not positive but I'd guess it's good as new. I think the worst thing that could
Happen is it's yellowed or stinked up a bit but it's not gonna hurt you
Happen is it's yellowed or stinked up a bit but it's not gonna hurt you
Chemicals direct (not the cheapest) sells gallons. They have posted their COA and Kosher certification (OU is sort of acceptable). Glycerin manufacturing plants have been going though a bunch of "contract agreements" with the big companies making 'source agreements' for raw stock.
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=4
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=3
Essential depot has a better price but the contract between Dow and ADM makes it hard to determine which one actually produces the VG.
I have used both and could not tell the difference. But it seems I don't have functioning taste buds
One thing I found was small, re-packaged bottles end up with a lower density (mg/ml) than large bottles (gallon) probably due to atmospheric water absorbed during vendor storage and bottling. Not a problem because I check my DIY thickness with the Dr. Kavorky and compensate when thinning.
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=4
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=3
Essential depot has a better price but the contract between Dow and ADM makes it hard to determine which one actually produces the VG.
I have used both and could not tell the difference. But it seems I don't have functioning taste buds
One thing I found was small, re-packaged bottles end up with a lower density (mg/ml) than large bottles (gallon) probably due to atmospheric water absorbed during vendor storage and bottling. Not a problem because I check my DIY thickness with the Dr. Kavorky and compensate when thinning.
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Haven't had any of those sorry to say
off topic?
I'm in the market for a new jug of VG I've been wanting to try proctor and gamble. Only source I'm aware of is ECX. Any other suggestions?
Samples : : P&G Chemicals P&G Chemicals
Well I took out the bottle of MFS nic. It's was sealed with black tape around the cap. It has no smell and it has not yellowed so I guess I'm going to give it a try.
Vaping unflavored is kinda like whiffing the coffee beans they have at a candle store both for your taste buds and dripping atty.
Yeah, I enjoy smelling candles, what of it??
Yeah, I enjoy smelling candles, what of it??
Chemicals direct (not the cheapest) sells gallons. They have posted their COA and Kosher certification (OU is sort of acceptable). Glycerin manufacturing plants have been going though a bunch of "contract agreements" with the big companies making 'source agreements' for raw stock.
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=4
http://www.buychemicalsdirect.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=GLYCERINUSP1G&PhotoNumber=3
Essential depot has a better price but the contract between Dow and ADM makes it hard to determine which one actually produces the VG.
I have used both and could not tell the difference. But it seems I don't have functioning taste buds
One thing I found was small, re-packaged bottles end up with a lower density (mg/ml) than large bottles (gallon) probably due to atmospheric water absorbed during vendor storage and bottling. Not a problem because I check my DIY thickness with the Dr. Kavorky and compensate when thinning.
A little off topic, but if anyone is need of VG or PG Essential Depot has both on sale this week. 2 gallons for appx $48 shipped. Price varies a buck or 2 depending on whether you order VG or PG or 1 gal of each. They also have coa posted for each product on their site.
Since I don't have functioning taste buds either, I ordered a gallon of each. If it's it good enough for Rocketman should be good enough for me.
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