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It is funny you mentioned you are a Pathologist in training. I was going to suggest that career path if you were undecided. Excellent choice. I have been in the field of Medical Technology for almost 30 years. May God guide you down your career path.
Just got back from Wizard Lab's and Xtreme vaping's sites. I can't find the "ICE". Is there an option I am missing? Why is Xtreme NIC so expensive? $330.00 for a liter of 100mg that is $100 more than WL NORMAL price.
I've never had the elusive "Ice" either. From what I understand, you used to be able to ask for "Ice" in the comments section of your order. WL stopped offering it a few months ago. I've been watching their site hoping they would offer it again.
I don't have any information on the Xtreme nic, but wouldn't buy it just because of the price since there are other affordable options of quality on the market.
ICE is only available from time to time.
You need to send John or Lindsay a message with your order and request it. Or call there and ask.
Its not a magic nic. Its smoother and has less throat hit, its the same price as the regular nic or just a bit more. Not much.
You need to send John or Lindsay a message with your order and request it. Or call there and ask.
Its not a magic nic. Its smoother and has less throat hit, its the same price as the regular nic or just a bit more. Not much.
No worries tdinello, the VZ I have is fantastic and distinct; its a great middle ground for someone that finds MFS a bit 'too much' and WLI/XTR a little to 'bland' if its anything like what I have its a real jack of all trades! Not sure you would consider WLI a 'huge improvement' but you'll find out when it becomes available again
Finished medical school, so its M.D.
Congrats Dr. Cyrus
you'll always be Horsey to me. 
Very happy for you
I will always be horsey no matter what!
What they said about the Ice tdinello! Hoosier is the man that got me hip to xtreme vaping, and it is obscenely clean tasting/smelling stuff (like the Ice), but yes, the price point hurts a bit!
Has anyone had ECX over the past few weeks? I wonder how their nic is these days.
What they said about the Ice tdinello! Hoosier is the man that got me hip to xtreme vaping, and it is obscenely clean tasting/smelling stuff (like the Ice), but yes, the price point hurts a bit!
Has anyone had ECX over the past few weeks? I wonder how their nic is these days.
I have not, but someone posted a warning on Facebook about unauthorized charges on credit cards after shopping at ECX. I can't verify that it happened, but be careful people.
So did RTS update their formula from the first pages in this thread to fix that nasty smell and TH??
VZ and XTR are way too expensive and WLR is out of the question since I hate "pepper taste" in my nicotine
(does WLR still have that peppery feel?)
VZ and XTR are way too expensive and WLR is out of the question since I hate "pepper taste" in my nicotine
(does WLR still have that peppery feel?)
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FWIW - I've been using WLR unflavored for a while now - mixed to 18mg, 75% VG, 25% PG and I detect no peppery taste. It does have sort of an acrid? bite . . it reminds me a little bit of the way nicotine patches smell - but I don't find it pronounced or unenjoyable. Mostly I just taste sweetness from the VG/PG.
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Wizard Labs doesn't sell peppery tasting nic, lol.
Some of the things I read are hilarious.
John + Lindsay are first class people.
Some of the things I read are hilarious.
John + Lindsay are first class people.
I'll chime in here with another vote for Wizard Labs Regular.
Over the past two years, I've used liquid nic from five different sources (Batch Elder, Xtreme Vaping, Good Prophets, Void Mist, and Wizard Labs). I experience no peppery taste at all from Wizard Labs Regular. My last batch did yellow some over time, but that's been true of all the liquid nic I've used that was stored in the refrigerator rather than the freezer.
While I haven't sampled RTS, VapingZone, or MFS, I see no reason to buy anywhere but Wizard Labs. I trust John, and his prices are unbeatable---far and away the most inexpensive of any supplier discussed on this thread.
Over the past two years, I've used liquid nic from five different sources (Batch Elder, Xtreme Vaping, Good Prophets, Void Mist, and Wizard Labs). I experience no peppery taste at all from Wizard Labs Regular. My last batch did yellow some over time, but that's been true of all the liquid nic I've used that was stored in the refrigerator rather than the freezer.
While I haven't sampled RTS, VapingZone, or MFS, I see no reason to buy anywhere but Wizard Labs. I trust John, and his prices are unbeatable---far and away the most inexpensive of any supplier discussed on this thread.
Thanks Bill, helpful as always... Btw, I'm doing DIY now cause you got me hooked on creamy caramel with your RY4
Planning on making a Caramel mixed with Bavarian cream and maybe a hint of french vanilla
I sent an e-mail to Levy at Xtreme Vaping a few months ago. His select nicotine comes from a only a single factory source in China. That's one way he produces such a consistently excellent product. From there, he does QC and production in-house. Extreme Vaping base nicotine is very much a product of an individual craft and not so much an assembly line operation using multiple nicotine suppliers. Xtreme Vaping supplies some very well-known juice makers with base nicotine. Levy has a long and excellent track record with DIY folks here at ECF going back to the earliest days of DIY.
As far as price goes, it's not that xtreme and I can't understand why it's such an issue with some DIY vapers. I look at base nic cost on a yearly basis and purchase it in yearly batch amounts for freezing. I'm still saving a ton of bucks with DIY over pre-mix even with the cost of Xtreme Vaping base. I vape mostly unflavored DIY juice.
As far as price goes, it's not that xtreme and I can't understand why it's such an issue with some DIY vapers.
I look at base nic cost on a yearly basis and purchase it in yearly batch amounts for freezing. I'm still saving a ton of bucks with DIY over pre-mix even with the cost of Xtreme Vaping base. I vape mostly unflavored DIY juice.
Xtreme Vaping nic = WL Ice
Its the same nic
But WL may not be carrying ICE anymore, he rarely got it and he restricted how much he would sell to most people, his biggest customers had some access.
Its the same nic
But WL may not be carrying ICE anymore, he rarely got it and he restricted how much he would sell to most people, his biggest customers had some access.
I received a couple of liters of ICE from WL not long ago. I had to wait for it a month when they could have shipped the Regular immediately. To me, the ICE was worth waiting for. So they DO still sell it and you DO have to ask for it, specifically.
What is the procedure for that? Email and wait for re-stock, or place the order and leave a comment/request? Also, how significant is the price difference if any?
I like the regular WL, but I would very much like to get some ICE on the next order.
It looks like someone broke rules number 1 and 2 regarding a certain club that cannot be mentioned.
If the answer was made public in here, those that can get ICE would have too much competition.
If the answer was made public in here, those that can get ICE would have too much competition.
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