Regulation at work for YOU! I just can't imagine anyone asking for more wonderful regulation.
Nightmares!!!
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Regulation at work for YOU! I just can't imagine anyone asking for more wonderful regulation.
Chantix made me have terrible, TERRIBLE nightmares every single night that I took it and it made me suicidal. Not the horror movie type of nightmares - but nightmares of my hubby being killed - or my children being seriously injured in an accident and blood all over the floor type of nightmares. I once dreamed someone had hung my beloved cat, Stormy Blue, from the fence and eviscerated him. And he is not allowed to ever go outside.. sooo.. It was horrible. I would wake up screaming and crying from these dreams - which scared the crap out of everyone in the house - dogs included. They would run around looking for who had hurt Mommy and who needed to be bitten because of it.
Nicotine OD, OTOH makes me unable to sleep at all. I feel like I am on waaaay too much caffeine, (I can only handle about 16oz of coffee a day - tops), if I get too much nicotine in my system - down to the shaky hands bit and clenching of the teeth.
Wellbutrin made me have some very vivid - lucid - dreams. Some were .. well, downright erotic. I really REALLY liked those.
However, it also made me very sick.. so I could not take it very long.
~Tiger
Nicotine OD, OTOH makes me unable to sleep at all. I feel like I am on waaaay too much caffeine, (I can only handle about 16oz of coffee a day - tops), if I get too much nicotine in my system - down to the shaky hands bit and clenching of the teeth.
Wellbutrin made me have some very vivid - lucid - dreams. Some were .. well, downright erotic. I really REALLY liked those.
However, it also made me very sick.. so I could not take it very long.
~Tiger
I tried that Chantix also, yes bad dreams, jumpy, racing heatbeats. Used 2 days and threw then out. Wellbutrin didn't do a darn thing. Patches made my skin get a really really red raised rash. So far I am trying to taper off analogs. I am gradually taking out a cigarette where I may have one...such as lighting up on my way to run errands, after eating, and every other one on long long road trips. The analogs are not quite tasting the same either. I feel like I am making progress. I don't know if I would ever give up vapor as I am really enjoying it now that I have a sweet set up. I am working on finding a more portable system away from home that is not a huge juice eater. The Mini Nova on my Ego 650 works fairly well but it eats the juice like crazy. For at home my spinner with the T3 is a winner.
Nothing makes me laugh harder than a good horror movie. I knew I was going to marry my wife when we watched Saw 2 and she giggled through the torture scenes.
I've had insomnia ever since I started vaping. Not because of the 18mg nic but because I sit up all night telling myself, "I'll just read one more thing, or I'll just watch one more video". I've always had problems sleeping. I never had vivid dreams when I was taking Chantix either. Not fair. I would love a vivid dream.
I'm not a big dreamer, maybe a handful in my life I can remember, so when I read my first post like this I kind of laughed my .... off at "the crazy people" that were posting. Well, that was until I had a nightmare one night about the construction vehicles at work literally coming to life and trying to attack me. I got away from them, and small versions of common cars were ramming at the sliding glass doors of the gatehouse. I knew I was dreaming, but couldn't wake up, so I finally wake up hyperventilating, fun, fun. The second one (and this is all in three weeks of vaping only lol) was I was swimming around an amusement park (yes, swimming) and looking for a friend of mine, and when I finally found them, they tried to eat my face. LMAO Thanks, vaping. Now I'm a frickin' nut.
I've noticed that I have more frequent insomnia episodes or lucid intense dreams since i started vaping.....not quite nightmares. They all involve some type of danger (like being in a fight or being chased by knife weilding people) or having to complete tasks knowing that my life is in danger if I dont succeed at the task ( like driving a car down jagged cliffs or not being tracked a hoard of trained attack dogs). Last night I had a weird dream that was all unfamiliar faces popping up and zooming in toward my face...hundreds of them...no bodies, just heads appearing out of the darkness, and not one I recognized.
I have been vaping a lot before bedtime, so I wonder if its the nicotine.....
~Restita
I have been vaping a lot before bedtime, so I wonder if its the nicotine.....
~Restita
By all means stay away from The Griffin by Fuzion then. Its made with Valerian extract. I wouldnt call them nightmares per se but my dreams were EXTREMELY vivid. I almost never remember my dreams and these were crystal clear.
* Valerian has long been prized for its ability to provide vivid dreams.
* Valerian has long been prized for its ability to provide vivid dreams.
I notice I have really emotional, sad dreams. One recurring is an ex, that I feared kidnapping me and stuffing me in a trunk, escaping, and not knowing how to get back home, and worrying about my hubby worrying about me. I get that one at least once a week. That ex I had was so long ago! I wake up sad from my dreams a lot. I have been vaping straight for a year and a half. I wonder if it is some mental effect of detoxing from cigarettes? I wonder if vaping is tiding me over habit wise, but not chemically? I read somewhere that it takes a really long time to detox from some of the chemicals in cigarettes.
My god, chantix sounds terrifying. I can admit with no shame that I have been around the block once or twice and those descriptions still give me the heebie-jeebies. It's like everything D.A.R.E. warned us about as children!
Only it's... ...legal? A coupla of years ago, I actually considered chantix, but then the end of the commercial came and they began rattiling off the side-effects and I said to myself, "Uhm... nothanks. I've got enough psychological issues already thx! ^_^"
I've always been kind of dreamer. I've kept a dream log for years. So when the PROFOUND dreams came shortly thereafter switching to vaping, I welcomed them. What came next was an unexpectedly deep journey through my psyche. I've got a separate notebook for each chapter and everything (and yes, they really are like chapters in some grand book. What I've written does not do them justice... ...it's merely a book of fancy mnemonic devices.) In a symbolic-yet-complex fashion, I was confronted with various issues in my life, both past and present. It was actually pretty therapeutic, though a bit trying at times. Nightmares don't really bother me. Even when I wake up rocked by one, I just remember that it wasn't real and suddenly I'm merely left with something interesting to think about in the morning.
My dreams have been as vivid as they were when I was a toddler since I took up vaping. It used to be that every night I would have at least one that was just too real for words, but now it's more like once a week. They're still exponentially more vivid than I remember any dream of mine being in the past 7 years.
My belated apologies for rambling.
Only it's... ...legal? A coupla of years ago, I actually considered chantix, but then the end of the commercial came and they began rattiling off the side-effects and I said to myself, "Uhm... nothanks. I've got enough psychological issues already thx! ^_^"
I've always been kind of dreamer. I've kept a dream log for years. So when the PROFOUND dreams came shortly thereafter switching to vaping, I welcomed them. What came next was an unexpectedly deep journey through my psyche. I've got a separate notebook for each chapter and everything (and yes, they really are like chapters in some grand book. What I've written does not do them justice... ...it's merely a book of fancy mnemonic devices.) In a symbolic-yet-complex fashion, I was confronted with various issues in my life, both past and present. It was actually pretty therapeutic, though a bit trying at times. Nightmares don't really bother me. Even when I wake up rocked by one, I just remember that it wasn't real and suddenly I'm merely left with something interesting to think about in the morning.
My dreams have been as vivid as they were when I was a toddler since I took up vaping. It used to be that every night I would have at least one that was just too real for words, but now it's more like once a week. They're still exponentially more vivid than I remember any dream of mine being in the past 7 years.
My belated apologies for rambling.
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Yup, same here. I'm like; if I have been hospitalized three times in 30 years from my own brain, I certainly don't need any inspiration! LOL I had about 50 people tell me to take it until I told them my history, and even then, some of them said "but you'll be able to quit smoking" SMH, ... does it matter if I'm smoking or not if I'm dead or institutionalized for the rest of my life? NO. THANK. YOU.
Since I quit the coffin nails and started vaping my dreams have been amazingly good.
I keep having these dreams about these angelic like female nurturer creatures making me stronger.
Weird.
Guess it's me getting in touch with my 'Anima' or something now I've made a big step towards looking after myself better.
Chantix and zyban sound godawful, just like when I was on a small dose of ssri once (which Zyban is, well it's close, it's an sndri, I believe) had the most crazy dreams imaginable (kinda fun, kinda scary....)
Every person I've met that has tried either of them have said it was one of the worst experiences of their lives.
I keep having these dreams about these angelic like female nurturer creatures making me stronger.
Weird.
Guess it's me getting in touch with my 'Anima' or something now I've made a big step towards looking after myself better.
Chantix and zyban sound godawful, just like when I was on a small dose of ssri once (which Zyban is, well it's close, it's an sndri, I believe) had the most crazy dreams imaginable (kinda fun, kinda scary....)
Every person I've met that has tried either of them have said it was one of the worst experiences of their lives.
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I love vivid dreams. If I was certain they were a result of vaping I'd be sucking away on my Vamo in bed.
I've had a few really good ones since I started vaping, so maybe there's something to it.
I've had a few really good ones since I started vaping, so maybe there's something to it.
Interesting thread. Prior to quitting cigs, I never remembered my dreams in the morning. Now I wake up and it's like WTH! My dreams are very vivid, crazy and lots of bright yellow color in them. Need to buy a dream interpretation book or something.
i thought i was alone in this. Sometimes i where the patch just for the dreams. HEHE. When in these dreams, i know that i am dreaming. I've always been able to immediately wake myself up from a dream as well if i didn't like it. So weird being able to control that and so awesome at the same time. I've told people that and they just laughed and said that is impossible. Glad to know there are others that experience this.
I'm able to wake up, too. The trick -- at least for me -- is to remember that you're lying in bed, then try to feel yourself there. Once you do, simply open your eyes.
I take Vitamin B12 and B Complex but haven't had a problem with vivid dreams. I did have terrible vivid nightmares when I was wearing the Nicoderm patch to bed. Once I started taking the patch off before going to bed, I no longer had nightmares. I assumed the nightmares was from getting too much nic during the night. I am wondering if vaping too much nic can cause the nightmares rather than not having enough nic. That's at least my theory but who knows. I haven't had nightmares from vaping though I vape less nicotine than I smoked or that was in the Nicoderm patches I was wearing. I absolutely hated the nightmares and would dread going to bed. They seemed real to me and would wake me up in a panic at times.
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I've always had very vivid dreams, even as a child. I have nightmares at least 2-3 times a week. Not horror movie nightmares, but realistic ones - horrible things happening to my family mostly. I think my 2 1/2 year old daughter has vivid dreams regularly too.
With Chantix and Welbutrin, my dreams weren't much different. My problem, especially with Chantix was that I couldn't sleep. At least 3 times a week I'd be wide awake in my bed all night trying to fall asleep. I'd go to bed at 9 or 10 pm to try to get some extra sleep or catch up on sleep, and still be awake at 4am.
I was the moodiest and most miserable guy you could meet during that 12 or 16 weeks I was on Chantix. People that knew I was on it were saying it was the med. I honestly think it was the sleep deprivation. If I got 2 consecutive nights of solid sleep, I'd be fine.
Chantix was the only thing that helped me quit (other than vaping). My having a miscarriage after my wife and I trying unsuccesfully to have children for 2 years got me back on cigarettes on our way home from the doctor's office. At least I can vape when I'm very stressed out; couldn't do that with cigarettes without falling back into the habit.
With Chantix and Welbutrin, my dreams weren't much different. My problem, especially with Chantix was that I couldn't sleep. At least 3 times a week I'd be wide awake in my bed all night trying to fall asleep. I'd go to bed at 9 or 10 pm to try to get some extra sleep or catch up on sleep, and still be awake at 4am.
I was the moodiest and most miserable guy you could meet during that 12 or 16 weeks I was on Chantix. People that knew I was on it were saying it was the med. I honestly think it was the sleep deprivation. If I got 2 consecutive nights of solid sleep, I'd be fine.
Chantix was the only thing that helped me quit (other than vaping). My having a miscarriage after my wife and I trying unsuccesfully to have children for 2 years got me back on cigarettes on our way home from the doctor's office. At least I can vape when I'm very stressed out; couldn't do that with cigarettes without falling back into the habit.
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