No Longer allowed to vape in local Boston Pizza Lounge.

[Kagey K]

This is more of a rant then anything else, but when I first started vaping my local BP was super cool about it and let us vape in the lounge as we sat and chilled. The waitresses were awesome about it and the managers even came up and told us how awesome they thought they were.

Fast forward a few weeks and we sit down and start to vape and get told we are no longer allowed to vape in there anymore. They all still think it was awesome but apparently some people were in there were vaping, and some random decided to light a cigarette.

When asked to put it out he went off the handle stating if they are smoking so can he and then tried to pick many fights in the bar even though he was explained the difference and refused to put his cigarette out. Apparently one of the vapors even offered him an ecig to calm him down, to no avail and he just got more belligerent.

Fast forward and the management team, even though they approve of it, put a rule down stating no more vaping because of this situation, which I understand. They have to protect their staff. I feel bad for what the staff and patrons went through that night, just from what I heard.

There is never a reason to abuse a server, manager, or another guest, and this guy took it over the top.

So now sadly my fav vape hangout has turned into me being shunned and getting relegated outside with the other smokers, due to one persons ignorance. Not even allowed on the patio with it.

Why does one bad apple have to ruin the bunch?

 

[aggo]

Well, Boston Pizza sucks, anyway.

 

[aggo]

But seriously.....sorry to hear that happened. Too bad that jerk ruined it for you. I'm loath to ask if I can vape in restaurants and bars. I do it on the sly because I've got stealth vaping down to an art and science.

 

[Talyon]

This is why I fix machines for a living (I'm a liscensed millwright by trade) its against the law to fix people.

Alot can be said of the ole cowboy days, lol.

Yeah it's a shame that there are so many egits in da world. (sure I spelled that wrong)

 

[Kagey K]

Well, Boston Pizza sucks, anyway.

In my town there are few places to go and BP's is the "hip" joint to go to. If you narrow it down to Lounges or Bars, it gets more depressing.

This is why I fix machines for a living (I'm a liscensed millwright by trade) its against the law to fix people.

Alot can be said of the ole cowboy days, lol.

Yeah it's a shame that there are so many egits in da world. (sure I spelled that wrong)

It's not even so many idjiots, it was just one who happened to be staying in a hotel room right beside BP, so he's not even a local, just a wild west guy passing through town.

I'm sure he just wanted to exert his awesomeness as he passed through and he would surely get a girl for all of his Beefcake Madness. So he was rewarded with an eventual swift kick in the ...., and we all have to suffer because of his arrogance. Again I understand that they can't put their staff in those situations, but it hardly seems fair to their bread and butter.

 

[nuclearbroccoli]

Still doesn't seem right. It's not much different than not selling alcohol anymore because one customer got drunk and belligerent, or not letting you take your medication in the lounge because some drug addict was popping pills.
Smoking and vaping are not the same thing.

 

[NamVet68]

Sorry, but that's just poor management skills. When the customer started becoming belligerent after the vaping/smoking explanation was given, he should just have been asked to leave politely, and if not, then he should have been handled just like they do with any drunken sod....just get him out of there.

It's not real smart penalizing good customers because you don't know how to handle a situation that comes up in just about every club & restaurant on a regular basis. Tell him/her to grow a pair, or you and your friends will go elsewhere.

JMHO.

 

[chadsmo]

I can relate. I've been a regular at a pub in my city for about a decade. I've literally been there 1000s of times. Last year I saw someone vaping there and thought '... you can't smoke in here.... oh it's one of those stupid electronic smokes... meh'

Fast forward to 3 months ago when I started vaping and I was pretty excited I could vape at my favourite pub. For the first 5 weeks or so there wasn't an issue. A few friends that quit smoking and started vaping after I took it up were using them in there too. Then there were more customers that were vaping in there, maybe the word got out, or maybe vaping just got more popular at the exact same time, who knows. Anyhow, about 5 weeks after starting to vape there, someone else was vaping there before I got there and I guess ONE CUSTOMER complained about it. Not sure what the complaint was , just that they complained. So the staff decided to put a temporary ban on them until the owner got back from vacation. That ban remains in place today almost 2 months later because the owner wants to 'keep her customers happy' AKA the one faceless customer that complained as opposed to customers of 10 years as well as many other vapers that were starting to hang out there more.

I miss going there, but now I just go to other places that allow vaping, I've found 4 pubs in my city so far that are totally cool with it. The one place sort of has a policy of if someone near your table complains then they ask you to stop until those people are gone, which I think is totally fair.

 

[DuaneNeveu]

My sig links to my thoughts on the subject, and I've been a restauranteur all my life.

Whether we like it or not, most rules, guidelines, laws (and the like) throughout history have been enacted to address the lowest common denominator. It sucks, but that's what we've gotta do on this big mud-ball inhabited by monkeys with shoes.

 

[StarDose]

Sorry to hear that kagey, I just prefer to vape where your allowed to smoke. If vaping gets really big there are people who will complain like everything else and could easily get banned by law in non smoking areas. It may not harm others but is still a pollutant due to the smell of some flavors which would be hard to ban only certain flavors. It would be nice to be able to vape anywhere but if even half the smokers out there started vaping and doing it everywhere the complainers would get it banned in public places pretty fast.

 

[SloHand]

IMO it's just too huge a hill to climb for people. It just resembles smoking way too much for the uninitiated to wrap there small minds around it. I'm just shy of two years vaping and still fight the good fight and try to convert, educate, advocate for vaping every single day but until some deity comes and announces to the world that its a new commandment we will always be viewed as smokers.

My BP experience was interesting, I asked to speak with the manager, explained what I wanted to do (that is vape) he said yes, but 15 minutes later he came back and said that it just looked too much like smoking and that any of their young customers wouldn't be able to understand the difference. Very reasonable, so I didn't vape their.

 

[chadsmo]

The strangest looks I've gotten was in the middle of a busy mall food-court.

 

[BuzzKilla]

some people just need a 2x4 across the head.... man that sucks.

 

[Kagey K]

I can relate. I've been a regular at a pub in my city for about a decade. I've literally been there 1000s of times. Last year I saw someone vaping there and thought '... you can't smoke in here.... oh it's one of those stupid electronic smokes... meh'

Fast forward to 3 months ago when I started vaping and I was pretty excited I could vape at my favourite pub. For the first 5 weeks or so there wasn't an issue. A few friends that quit smoking and started vaping after I took it up were using them in there too. Then there were more customers that were vaping in there, maybe the word got out, or maybe vaping just got more popular at the exact same time, who knows. Anyhow, about 5 weeks after starting to vape there, someone else was vaping there before I got there and I guess ONE CUSTOMER complained about it. Not sure what the complaint was , just that they complained. So the staff decided to put a temporary ban on them until the owner got back from vacation. That ban remains in place today almost 2 months later because the owner wants to 'keep her customers happy' AKA the one faceless customer that complained as opposed to customers of 10 years as well as many other vapers that were starting to hang out there more.

I miss going there, but now I just go to other places that allow vaping, I've found 4 pubs in my city so far that are totally cool with it. The one place sort of has a policy of if someone near your table complains then they ask you to stop until those people are gone, which I think is totally fair.

Yeah if my other options in town weren't such dives I would think about going to them instead, Oh well saves me even more money in the end.

My sig links to my thoughts on the subject, and I've been a restauranteur all my life.

Whether we like it or not, most rules, guidelines, laws (and the like) throughout history have been enacted to address the lowest common denominator. It sucks, but that's what we've gotta do on this big mud-ball inhabited by monkeys with shoes.

IMO it's just too huge a hill to climb for people. It just resembles smoking way too much for the uninitiated to wrap there small minds around it. I'm just shy of two years vaping and still fight the good fight and try to convert, educate, advocate for vaping every single day but until some deity comes and announces to the world that its a new commandment we will always be viewed as smokers.

My BP experience was interesting, I asked to speak with the manager, explained what I wanted to do (that is vape) he said yes, but 15 minutes later he came back and said that it just looked too much like smoking and that any of their young customers wouldn't be able to understand the difference. Very reasonable, so I didn't vape their.

To be fair I was in the lounge and not the restaurant, perhaps I should have made that clear in my first post. There were no young impressionable kids and I never vape in a restaurant situation. Sitting in the lounge is a totally different atmosphere, and of all the places I've been this is the first time it has been a problem. Unfortunately the problem is in my home base rather then just some random pub I may or may not return to. I wouldn't even mind if they made me sit on the patio only, but again I understand why they had to put the rule in place.

some people just need a 2x4 across the head.... man that sucks.

If only we knock the stupid out of stupid people, it would help. Although, I'm sure I could have gotten knocked with the stupid board a few times when I was younger, so maybe it's for the best.