No one told me there would be math!

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Kanj.nguyen

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Oh, Kanj! I really like the way that looks and what a price! Can't beat that to try something.

I gave that color to several of my smoker lady friends and they liked it a lot. Some of them even bought nail polish and lipstick to match the color lol. I also rebuilt the device beforehand with much more durable materials so it can last them the whole time i am away.
 

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After 3-4 days on the forum, I would like to say that no one told me I was joining a group of rocket scientists! lol They didn't tell me there would be math... they didn't tell me I would need to be an electrician. I don't know what volts and ohms and mAhs even are!

So for those of us who couldn't balance a checkbook, even when we used checkbooks, please... for the love of vaping... tell us what setups we can use without hiring a tutor or buying a new calculator.

Please. For the love of vaping.

Not to worry...no fuss set up: get a tank or carto or the like and set your eGo twist to about 4.0v and vape away. When I used the eGo VV (VV = Variable Voltage), my setting didn't stray too far +/- from 4.0.

Variable Voltage allows you to adjust the power to the atomizer. If it is tasting like it might be on the cusp of burning, turn it down. If it's tasting a little weak, turn it up.
 
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At the risk of sounding even more stupid, what the bloody heck is a "VV"?

Each of these entry level eGo style batteries have variable voltage (entry level, backup, out and about, stealth, primary):

Trusted Vendors shown, but NOT selected based on pricing, you'll still need to shop around. You will need device specific battery chargers (which often come in kits) for these devices. Also, kits often provide two batteries allowing for simultaneous vaping while charging of the backup. Each of the eGo style batteries below have both 510 and eGo thread connections. As such, they are compatible with most toppers, including most Kanger products. Additionally, each of these devices has at least variable voltage, which allows you to adjust and regulate the battery output voltage, providing customizable vapor production, temperature, throat hit, and finding the "sweet spot" for your juices to suit your individual vaping preferences:

1. Innokin iTaste 3.0 vv/vw, usb passthrough, ohms reader, etc. - https://ivape.net/index.php/iTaste-VV-3.0-Variable-Wattage-Device-Pearl-Chrome.html (variable power, LCD display, +/- buttons, Usb passthrough, 3.3 - 5.0 volts, 6.0 - 11.0 watts, 800mAh)
2. SLB KGO VV - http://www.hoosierecig.com/Mega-KGO-VV-1200mAh-3-6v-_p_441.html (LCD display, +/- buttons, Usb passthrough, 3.0 - 6.0 volts, 650 - 1200mAh)
3. Vision Spinner - Vision Spinner VV eGo Battery 1300mAh (3.3 - 4.8 volts, 1300mAh)
4. Joyetech Twist - eGo Twist 1000 Mah Battery in Black (3.2 - 4.8 volts, 650 - 1000mAh)
5. Smoktech Winder - Smok eGo Winder 900mAh Variable Volt Battery (3.2 - 4.8 volts, 900 - 1100mAh)

Best Starter Combo kit out there, imho, provides two batteries, i.e., the twist and/or spinner, and two toppers, i.e., the eVod and/or MT3s, among others: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm.

Recommend one eVod and one MT3s topper with one Spinner and one Twist to start. This way you get four different products with the kit and allowing you to experience four different setups, as you figure out your preferences and what works best for you. BTW, you can spend less and get a fixed voltage battery, but you'll have much less vape flexibility and it won't be long before you'll want to upgrade to variable voltage, more than likely, and the difference initially is only a few dollars per battery anyway.

Anyway, my :2c:. Happy vaping, shopping, good luck, welcome aboard, etc. Vape On!
 

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No necessarily. If you're using a standard device, it at least helps you to know what resistance is too high to really shine at 3.7-4 volts.
Not sure I understand the exact distinction you are making. I like your previous post:

Quickie method:
Add 2.0 to your resistance to get a voltage

1.8 ohms, add 2.0 = vape it at around 3.8 volts

2.0 ohms, add 2.0 = vape it at around 4 volts

etc.

No charts or calculators needed.

I think we're trying to say the same thing to help the OP, but I'm confused by your correction of my post. Also, I'm not even sure exactly what you mean by a "standard device." We may be on the same page on this, but I'm not clear as to what you mean exactly, how my suggestion is different than yours, and how your clarification helps the OP. All of these are just rules of thumb and subject to change depending on any number of variables. My goal is to help the noob.
 
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I wouldnt go with prefilled cartomizers. The liquids in them are rarely good and i suspect some may even prove dangerous (at least on a mild level). The eVod is simpler than pretty much anything i have used, and a eGo kit with matching eVod is like $9. Here

$9.27 EGO-EVOD 2-in-1 USB Rechargeable 900mAh Electronic Cigarettes Set - red / 2.6

And then you go to discountvapers.com and buy "replacement eVod/ Kanger 1.8ohm heads". Done.

It appears that the item comes with the battery and the charger, but not the atomizer shown. Should I get one on this site or go to the Dscount Vapors site for that, too?

And btw, you do know that I really don't know ... a "replacement eVOD/Kanger" thingie is, right? And why do I need a replacement for a thingie that I don't even have yet? I know. It's a head. That goes in a .. atomizer/cartomizer/clearomizer thingie. Do you need to replace them so often that you'd need to start out with spares on hand? And is it easier to do than it sounds?

I swear to God I'm not a complete idiot but the various pieces and parts can become very confusing and it would be a real bummer to order something and have it arrive, only to realize you didn't also order the thingamabob that makes it work.

Look, you can't make chili. Don't judge me.
 
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I've threatened several times to make an e-cig with a dial on it...it just says "cooler" and "warmer" with arrows. No numbers. Maybe color gradient from cool blue to hot red or something (even though that's not how heat colors work).
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My dear man, you speeeka mah langwich! You will make a fortune with the color coding, go for it!!

OP, you have gotten some excellent feedback from the wise-ones. FWIW (and I am a noob, obviously) -

Any of the batteries suggested would be great, I found that Kanger Evods are my bestest friends - easy to fill, look pretty (not first priority for some, but I like that added perk) and work lovely. Easy to change out the coils/heads too (I do not and will not rebuild anything - it gets past the cleanable stage and I swap the sucker out.) I discovered that vv - variable voltage - was not for me as what my plain old vanilla batteries was putting out was where I wanted to be exactly, so the vv is in the drawer for now. I did figure out how to work it, tho, so it is doable. :)

As for math, back when I was learning we still piled rocks in stacks as a visual aid.

Edit to add: The replacement heads screw into the bottome of the Evod - if you look at some of the sites they will show you the Evod in it's three pieces - tank, head/coil, base. The head has the 'heater thingy' that heats the juice and the 'wick thingy' that provides the juice to the 'heater thingy" to make the vapor. (Getting technical, sorry.) Seriously, it's simple - you take it apart, it just unscrews, take out the coil to clean it between flavors or just because it's been a couple of days. While it dries from cleaning/rinsing, you put in your spare one and vape away.
 
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I'd stay away from the rebuildable atomizers, replaceable heads, tanks, etc for a bit. Just personal opinion. There are some that get into them and don't have any issues, but I bet 50% or more have "extra problems" that they just don't need while starting out by using the "more sophisticated gadgets".

Start with a few standard cartos and clearos and an atomizer or two. The "battery" side....eGo twist or other...there's several types. Get into other stuff later. Or it gets too confusing with no real world experience to relate to.
 

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It appears that the item comes with the battery and the charger, but not the atomizer shown. Should I get one on this site or go to the Dscount Vapors site for that, too?

And btw, you do know that I really don't know ... a "replacement eVOD/Kanger" thingie is, right? And why do I need a replacement for a thingie that I don't even have yet? I know. It's a head. That goes in a .. atomizer/cartomizer/clearomizer thingie. Do you need to replace them so often that you'd need to start out with spares on hand? And is it easier to do than it sounds?

I swear to God I'm not a complete idiot but the various pieces and parts can become very confusing and it would be a real bummer to order something and have it arrive, only to realize you didn't also order the thingamabob that makes it work.

Look, you can't make chili. Don't judge me.

It does come with the atomizer. Thats the "evod" you see in the description.

The spare heads are not soooo essential that without it you just out right cannot use the device, but its always good to have spares to avoid multiple headaches especially in the beginner stage.

It is very easy to do since the eVod is a "replaceable head" device, meaning the thing was designed so that the head can be swapped out. Youtube is your friend if the procedure seems difficult. But really if you can turn on the microwave you can swap the heads.
 

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OMG. I totally don't want to rule anyone's world. But, M.One1 I'd get a VV device.

Variable voltage. eGo has em for 20 bucks each. Probably in a kit too.

You'll need juice and cartos too. There's so many you have to check reviews. Simple cartos and clearos are best IMO. Then we get into T3's and eVods and vivi's and ....... later.

That link/kit is "ok" but not VV. I don't see a reason not to have VV for most newbies. Unless you hate the longer battery or really want a mech mod (that I don't recommend for newbies anyway).
 

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When I've got a little time under my belt, I'm going to participate in the obviously popular sport of: Watch The Newbie Suffer. lol

Honestly, you guys have been hugely helpful so I *think* I've combined the best of your advice with a: eGo Variable Voltage 1100mAh Battery - Stainless w/Rubber Button

Now... will the clearomizers (510) I've already ordered fit this thing? Don't worry about juice.. Got plenty of that on the way.
 

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It appears that the item comes with the battery and the charger, but not the atomizer shown. Should I get one on this site or go to the Dscount Vapors site for that, too?

And btw, you do know that I really don't know ... a "replacement eVOD/Kanger" thingie is, right? And why do I need a replacement for a thingie that I don't even have yet? I know. It's a head. That goes in a .. atomizer/cartomizer/clearomizer thingie. Do you need to replace them so often that you'd need to start out with spares on hand? And is it easier to do than it sounds?

I swear to God I'm not a complete idiot but the various pieces and parts can become very confusing and it would be a real bummer to order something and have it arrive, only to realize you didn't also order the thingamabob that makes it work.

Look, you can't make chili. Don't judge me.


Why did I not see this when I was paying $40.00 for the kit I got from electron??stix last month??

That aside, out of my 2 EVOD batteries, 1 of them flat out refused to charge no matter what my local rep did to it and I had to go 2 weeks to get it replaced.

Of the three EVOD cartomizers I now own, one has mis-aligned and possibly wrong sized air holes. worked, just kinda got that sour lemon sucked in cheek thing going....

(not dissing kanger, just think I got the jackpot that day and yo gotta look at what you expect when it is made in china...)

You do need to get spare burner elements for this as they do burn out sooner or later anywhere from 1 to 5 weeks. Keep in mind that this is true of any cartomizer/clearomizer etc. so getting one that allows replacement of just the element in a simple, cheap and easy to replace unit is probably better than getting a "throw away" clearomizer. (rather change the bulb than the lamp...)

The kit is complete, and dirt cheap, and has free shipping, but I really wonder how long it will take to get it from Hong Kong, how easy the tech support will be to get and what hoops need to be jumped through for the waranty and returns.

that said, If you are new to vaping, I would definately recomend getting 2, that way you have a spare battery when one dies and you can carry 2 tanks with you. good low buck beginner setup....
 

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Yep as long as the eGo is a 510, the clearo is a 510 should be fine.

The VV allows you to use pretty much any ohm stuff. As a general rule when ordering, get middle of the road ohms (like 2.3 to 2.5) but that's not essential.

You'll probably want a syringe for the clearos. What ones did you get?

Order juice. Samples are nice so you can get a range of flavors and nic and PG/VG ratio.
 
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