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That's a 27 Ga Kanthal A1 dual coil build on a derringer rda.

I used the coil master to make it. I bent the legs using these customized tweezers:

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And a pair of thin blade needle nose pliers.

It is 0.45 ohms and I wicked it with KGD.
 

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Lol yea, something to be said for a nice clean simple coil. Plus gotta appreciate some "redneck" engineering on the tweezers

Damn skippy son :). Yep I can be as red as necessary but it was a friend who actually burnt thru the two carbide bits necessary to produce those bad boys :). They work real well for legwork :)
 
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So clean, just wow, never ceases to amaze me.

Thank you.
So easy too. Seriously. I'll post up a vid I made when I get a chance. Here's one of how I just started to create the actual coil. It's pretty much ready to vape at that point but I can post up another to show you some simple easy ways to bend the legs to make it easier to center on the deck in centerpost attys :)



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In the past I was totally over complicating the simplicity of how easy this can be done :)
 

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Thanks Drift! Also waiting on a new and first REO LP SL coming soon in the mail. Thanks to you and your vids. Ans of course Robs' ridiculously first class customer service.

Sorry about the off topic.

The thing I hesitate to do when building coils is making those 99 degree Raquel builds because I feel I can't replicate the same distance and symmetry leading to uneven power delivery which then requires annoying bending of the coils all over and having uneven shape by the time I get them to fire evenly. You can see how this becomes a problem on things like quad coils.
 

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Thanks Drift! Also waiting on a new and first REO LP SL coming soon in the mail. Thanks to you and your vids. Ans of course Robs' ridiculously first class customer service.

Sorry about the off topic.

The thing I hesitate to do when building coils is making those 99 degree Raquel builds because I feel I can't replicate the same distance and symmetry leading to uneven power delivery which then requires annoying bending of the coils all over and having uneven shape by the time I get them to fire evenly. You can see how this becomes a problem on things like quad coils.


Thank you bro. And congrats on that incoming mechanical beast :)

Yes, I never really bent my legs prior but I got that tool made that makes quick and easy work of it.

I remember back when I never thought I'd run dual coils, now their all I run but quads - dang, that would be way outta my scope of abilities as I can only imagine the challenges :)

I hope to get a vid up of my simple leg bending techniques very soon) already have the footage but I don't like to drop too many vids at once and spam subs :). Those custom tweezers help greatly :)
 

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Got this going after i took your advice and build priming and going at it without touching it after settling the coil. (was a lil tough using the coiler with this twisted wire, damn thing was so springy, but ah well, all the more reason to pull out the pliers and apply a bunch of tension). The way it fires from the initial onset, to now after a good oxidizing ( its weird, its half blue and half like light copper-ish along the diameter, my lighting and iPhone 6 Plus camera sucks for macro shots). Was pulsing at it slowly for about 20 mins, I think I could have done it more to get a proper blue, but I think the twisted wire acts a bit different.

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In any case, the glow is so much more evenly spread than before I tried this method, and also the rampup glow isnt so concentrated in the center as it used to be. After wicking, and giving it a few hits, this thing is amazing now, where as the vape would get really hot and burning dry really fast, even with 50/50 vg on a relatively thick cotton wick (usually this helps with dry hits as the wick holds more, but takes longer to wick naturally), this thing vapes and re wicks really fast. The flavor coming from the kayfun is the best ive had (espcially since I like to have a mouth to lung relaxing vape to take a break from the 0.1 ohm Doge V2 insta cloud bang lung hits), so concentrated warm, and just thick plumey feeling. A bonus I noticed is my wick hasnt gone insta brown/black around the coils after a vape session, which is nice to see.

I know you don't bother with single coils anymore, but I'll tell ya.. with the way the airflow works, this single twisted (so thats kinda double :rolleyes:) really doing a good job till I get the reo and start going back to drippers full time. Or i think I will simply make a dual single wire parralell build on this, and see what the fuss is about).

Quad coils these days are annoying to me, aside from on the Geyser RDA I had from Dark Ronin Mods. Best dripper in terms of performance if you ask me personally, and ease of setting up a quad coil. Though since its not a bottom fed atty, Not much use on a Reo aside from a normal RDA. And I doubt anyone can modify it to make it bottom fed, beacause the airflow comes from the bottom deck, under the coils/cotton (though if you use the competition drip tip you can have side airflow, and I guess close off the bottom). Only problem I have is while washing it, I lost the 510 insulator, thus a $100+ paperweight. :(

If someone could emulate that type of deck on a bottom feeder, that would be insane.
 

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Got this going after i took your advice and build priming and going at it without touching it after settling the coil. (was a lil tough using the coiler with this twisted wire, damn thing was so springy, but ah well, all the more reason to pull out the pliers and apply a bunch of tension). The way it fires from the initial onset, to now after a good oxidizing ( its weird, its half blue and half like light copper-ish along the diameter, my lighting and iPhone 6 Plus camera sucks for macro shots). Was pulsing at it slowly for about 20 mins, I think I could have done it more to get a proper blue, but I think the twisted wire acts a bit different.

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In any case, the glow is so much more evenly spread than before I tried this method, and also the rampup glow isnt so concentrated in the center as it used to be. After wicking, and giving it a few hits, this thing is amazing now, where as the vape would get really hot and burning dry really fast, even with 50/50 vg on a relatively thick cotton wick (usually this helps with dry hits as the wick holds more, but takes longer to wick naturally), this thing vapes and re wicks really fast. The flavor coming from the kayfun is the best ive had (espcially since I like to have a mouth to lung relaxing vape to take a break from the 0.1 ohm Doge V2 insta cloud bang lung hits), so concentrated warm, and just thick plumey feeling. A bonus I noticed is my wick hasnt gone insta brown/black around the coils after a vape session, which is nice to see.

I know you don't bother with single coils anymore, but I'll tell ya.. with the way the airflow works, this single twisted (so thats kinda double :rolleyes:) really doing a good job till I get the reo and start going back to drippers full time. Or i think I will simply make a dual single wire parralell build on this, and see what the fuss is about).

Quad coils these days are annoying to me, aside from on the Geyser RDA I had from Dark Ronin Mods. Best dripper in terms of performance if you ask me personally, and ease of setting up a quad coil. Though since its not a bottom fed atty, Not much use on a Reo aside from a normal RDA. And I doubt anyone can modify it to make it bottom fed, beacause the airflow comes from the bottom deck, under the coils/cotton (though if you use the competition drip tip you can have side airflow, and I guess close off the bottom). Only problem I have is while washing it, I lost the 510 insulator, thus a $100+ paperweight. :(

If someone could emulate that type of deck on a bottom feeder, that would be insane.

That is some twisted artwork man. That does look like a nice even glow too. Good work and it seems the results are similar to what i experience :)
 
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That's a 27 Ga Kanthal A1 dual coil build on a derringer RDA.

I used the coil master to make it. I bent the legs using these customized tweezers:

Very nice and neat Mr X-man :thumb:. Looking forward to see how you used the modified tweezers to make the bends so clean.
 

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I use a kuro which produces great results although the master looks like it can fit much bigger wire. Its just easier this way then the artistic gizmo and to me I really cant notice a difference in flavour. If I could I would use the gizmo for sure. Im finding the twisted wire gives much better flavour but if I just ran nic base I would never bother with it TBH. My favourite coils are fused claptons though, the way the cool vapes is unreal. Coil acts as a wick almost and traps the juice then shoots the vape out of the spaces in the wire giving that vape different nuances then the regular stuff your coils brewing at the same time. I been using two 28g nichrome 80 core wires and wrapping it with 32g kanthal a1 for a while now and its amazing. You gotta try a clapton or at least some twisted wire man. Let me send you some in a crush proof tube if you dont have two gauges of wire for the clapton.
 

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I use a kuro which produces great results although the master looks like it can fit much bigger wire. Its just easier this way then the artistic gizmo and to me I really cant notice a difference in flavour. If I could I would use the gizmo for sure. Im finding the twisted wire gives much better flavour but if I just ran nic base I would never bother with it TBH. My favourite coils are fused claptons though, the way the cool vapes is unreal. Coil acts as a wick almost and traps the juice then shoots the vape out of the spaces in the wire giving that vape different nuances then the regular stuff your coils brewing at the same time. I been using two 28g nichrome 80 core wires and wrapping it with 32g kanthal a1 for a while now and its amazing. You gotta try a clapton or at least some twisted wire man. Let me send you some in a crush proof tube if you dont have two gauges of wire for the clapton.
Thank you for the offer my man :). I have another friend on here that also swears by twisted wire and I keep saying I'm going to try it - I'm going to have to sooner or later just to see about it :)

I'd like to see the fused Clapton, although I'd prolly not use it cause where I suffer most is mounting coils without disturbing them. I am too lazy and impatient when it comes to coiling that I avoid anything too complex :)

I'd love to see a pic of it though bro and thank you again for your offer on sending the wire :)
 

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I usually wrap my coils with a 1.6 mm micro screwdriver but I bought one of these jigs a while back and thought I would give it a shot last night.
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Though I think it wastes a little to much wire, I think it made a damn nice coil! I't just 10 wraps of 28g on my Nuppin (my go to coil build for my Reos). It meters out at 1.3 ohms. I made it last night so this is after a rewick and dry burn. Not a bad little jig, and it was only a couple of bucks on eBay.
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