I've been reading up on the Nickel Mesh. Explains the possible mixed reviews. Thanks, I might try them also, but the Ravens have just been voted my new favs!
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Well, this has been a roller coaster ride to say the least. Vaped all day on my AGR with the Raven installed with no problems to report. Thought all was fine. The story continues....So I'm on my way home from work with the Ego twist lying on the seat of my truck. I pick it up to take a vape and there is a spot on the seat where juice leaked out. Took a draw and it is flooded. Leaked all the way home. When I got home I dabbed the paper towel hoping it would stop. No success, still flooding. I'm beside myself.
Dumb question if you don't mind.What is the advantage if a Non-Flanged vs Flanged?
If you have an assortment of tanks that you would like to use...as I do....there are some that the flange prevents me from using. Because it's a bottom coil...the two little openings where the wicks are located to feed the juice....don't clear the end caps in some of them. The ones with no flange allow me to push the carto in the tiny, tiny amount needed. However....I prefer being able to use the ones with a flange.....because that flange prevents me from pulling the carto up into the tank when removing a drip tip....resulting in juice spilled everywhere.
You may see other explanations...this is just my opinion based on what I've experienced.
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"I see" said the blind man ... I understand now. Thanks Yiddle!If you have an assortment of tanks that you would like to use...as I do....there are some that the flange prevents me from using. Because it's a bottom coil...the two little openings where the wicks are located to feed the juice....don't clear the end caps in some of them. The ones with no flange allow me to push the carto in the tiny, tiny amount needed. However....I prefer being able to use the ones with a flange.....because that flange prevents me from pulling the carto up into the tank when removing a drip tip....resulting in juice spilled everywhere.
You may see other explanations...this is just my opinion based on what I've experienced.
Well, I'm starting to see I am not the only one with the leaking problem with these cartos. Review on the website with another user with the same problem. I got one to work out of 6. I hope they work on them but until I see gotvape recognize the problem and come out with a fix I cant afford a one out of 6 cartos for $18.00. Worst deal I got yet, guess it had to happen sooner or later.
Well, I guess we will have to "agree to disagree" on that VapingTurtle, the problem is not the person. It is the product, this isnt the first time I inserted a carto into a tank, but it is the first time I had my juice run out of the bottom of it. The supplier has a responsibility to the purchaser to provide products that work. I dont see any warning stating this product may not work for you. Or buy extra in case some dont work. So it stands that we "agree to disagree" on this.
Sorry for your misunderstanding of my statement, sfeltch. I'm not suggesting that you are doing anything wrong.
But the fact is that we all draw on our PVs differently, we all use different juices, we all live in different climates.
I vape with a gentle draw for about six to nine seconds. Most of the time I am between seven and nine watts. I live in a very humid environment. I usually vape a 70/30 mix that may be a little thicker than most 70/30 juices. I fill my carto tanks about 80% full. Nothing that I've listed here is the RIGHT way, nor is it the way the next guy vapes. Do you vape exactly like I do?
The fact remains that we all have to find what works for each of us. Ya gotta try various things until you find what is acceptable to you. And basing decisions on what other people think of a vaping product just won't ever work. That is what I was trying to convey in my previous statement.
I see you are new to ECF, but I don't know if you are new to vaping or not. Maybe you are very experienced; maybe not. But here, I'll say it for GotVapes and every other vendor world-wide:
WARNING: This product may not work optimally for you. No product works optimally for everyone.
Again, its not a matter of what product works for me or any other individual for that matter. It a matter of 5 out of 6 of the products didnt function as advertised.
The key word is optimally in your statement. I wouldnt even be posting if they WORKED AT ALL.... not to mention "optimally".
May I be so forward as to ask if you represent Gotvapes and these views you are posting are representative of Gotvapes business practices and principals?
You are talking to an experienced business owner of 10 yrs, I know what is important. Providing my customers with services and products that work. If not I make it right.
Are you representing GotVapes?
The key word is optimally in your statement. I wouldnt even be posting if they WORKED AT ALL.... not to mention "optimally".
May I be so forward as to ask if you represent Gotvapes and these views you are posting are representative of Gotvapes business practices and principals?
You are talking to an experienced business owner of 10 yrs, I know what is important. Providing my customers with services and products that work. If not I make it right.
Are you representing GotVapes?
I will post... and I'm not a GV rep...
I've had no such issues with mine... I've read dozens or more that have had no issues with theirs. What VapingTurtle stated is completely true whether you experienced the same or not. Overall, I've only read of a couple of folks having issues and one I recall was about dry hits, not leaking as you experienced.
I can also remember a similar issue with the E1's ... I had mixed results but a lot of other folks have no issues and they are their favorites. Even though I had trouble, I wouldn't question all of the other people reporting their success just because of my own experiences. Turt had it 100%... sometimes different people are just going to have different results.
PS... The first Raven's... I and most everyone else did have various issues with, but each differed. This batch, have been nothing but sweet for me.
I've had no such issues with mine... I've read dozens or more that have had no issues with theirs. What VapingTurtle stated is completely true whether you experienced the same or not. Overall, I've only read of a couple of folks having issues and one I recall was about dry hits, not leaking as you experienced.
I can also remember a similar issue with the E1's ... I had mixed results but a lot of other folks have no issues and they are their favorites. Even though I had trouble, I wouldn't question all of the other people reporting their success just because of my own experiences. Turt had it 100%... sometimes different people are just going to have different results.
PS... The first Raven's... I and most everyone else did have various issues with, but each differed. This batch, have been nothing but sweet for me.
No, I do not represent GotVapes, work for GV, or any other association with GV other than that I help out in their contest thread. I'm just an opinionated turtle.
edit: By the way, I think Vivi Novas and Stardusts suck big time. But those two products are a pair of the most successful clearos in the long and ancient history of clearomizers. Maybe nobody should ever buy them again now that I've said they suck. And all of the vendors should warn everyone that I think they suck. And refund every customer's money, because obviously they suck.
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rdsok - I never questioned anyone success with the ravens. Only my experience. To insinuate so just is not true. I dont even know where you get that. I never even stated they sucked. Because they didnt. In fact just the opposite, I am vaping on the only one that worked for me right now.
VapingTurtle - I thought not.
This thread is going no were and wasted more of my time then the damn Ravens are even worth. This is my last post. So here are the facts.
Fact - 5 of 6 of these Ravens flooded and leaked or suffered from flooding resulting in constant gurgle rendering them uncomfortable or unusable. The equipment they were used in was nothing unusual and quite common. And I am not having the same problem with other cartos in the same equipment.
Fact - Others have had success with the Ravens.
Fact - Others have reported flooding and gurgling.
Fact - They are good when they work.
Fact - I am dissatisfied with the product I received and this thread is definitely intensifying my dissatisfaction.
Review from Gotvapes website:
Well the tank is beautiful, however the carts suck. At first i was going to use a 2.2 duel coil as i use on DCT tanks. I went ahead and tried the cart that comes with it and was amazed on the flavor and the hit's i was getting. I went and ordered 5 more carts that came with the raven and now regret it. They leak horribly and seeing a another review on this problem, i am regretting shelling out 17 dollars on the carts. I will use my own carts. This problem has existed for awhile from what i see
Date Added: 06/29/2013 by Bradley Hart
Link to another user with same problem:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...93-phoenix-ravens-cartos-leaking-any-fix.html
VapingTurtle - I thought not.
This thread is going no were and wasted more of my time then the damn Ravens are even worth. This is my last post. So here are the facts.
Fact - 5 of 6 of these Ravens flooded and leaked or suffered from flooding resulting in constant gurgle rendering them uncomfortable or unusable. The equipment they were used in was nothing unusual and quite common. And I am not having the same problem with other cartos in the same equipment.
Fact - Others have had success with the Ravens.
Fact - Others have reported flooding and gurgling.
Fact - They are good when they work.
Fact - I am dissatisfied with the product I received and this thread is definitely intensifying my dissatisfaction.
Review from Gotvapes website:
Well the tank is beautiful, however the carts suck. At first i was going to use a 2.2 duel coil as i use on DCT tanks. I went ahead and tried the cart that comes with it and was amazed on the flavor and the hit's i was getting. I went and ordered 5 more carts that came with the raven and now regret it. They leak horribly and seeing a another review on this problem, i am regretting shelling out 17 dollars on the carts. I will use my own carts. This problem has existed for awhile from what i see
Date Added: 06/29/2013 by Bradley Hart
Link to another user with same problem:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...93-phoenix-ravens-cartos-leaking-any-fix.html
sfletch...
Neither myself, Turt nor anyone else was insinuating anything... Don't take your aggravation out on those just relaying their experiences or trying to provide possible suggestions in order to help.
Neither myself, Turt nor anyone else was insinuating anything... Don't take your aggravation out on those just relaying their experiences or trying to provide possible suggestions in order to help.
sfeltch if this thread is going nowhere, then there is no need for your continued visit and bashing of our exclusive and well received ravens.
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pointing a few negative reviews out of over 6000 sold doesnt get the issue solved, i can point to any vendor and show you issues posted for any product sold. sometimes it is actually the product, but im assuming by your post count your a newer vapor, to have 5 out of 6 with issues tells me it could be more on your end then the product , now instead of bickering back and fourth we can try to help you based on your issues but the facts stand many of us dont experience these issues but we can try to assist you.
in the next week or so i will release some major news, the ravens nest is going loco, revamped and adjusted outershell and all the stuff you could ask for in a tank will be added. big news coming and new designs as well
Lookin' forward to being able to use my Ravens in their Nest without them looking all wonky!
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